RK-07: Sid Meier's Janissaries!

[Meatbuster]

Oh well. Life sucks. Try upgrading drivers first though.

Eshunna is up and should pick up the game from Bede's save.

 

[Eshnunna]

OK, got it,

I might play it tonight if not too tired.
Won't be able to report properly until 36 hours unfortunately. I'll write a short summary.

 

[FuRRie]

I have all my drivers up-to-date, don't worry.
I'll be reinstalling tomorrow so I should be able to play next round

 

[Eshnunna]

First I notice our capital really looks strange.. size 3 w. 2 scientists???
After some calculations, I see that we'll never pop 2 GS (unless switching to caste syst and loosing slavery : no way) until gunpowder.
Besides, using a GS on paper is a waste since it's a cheap tech.
I therefore fire the scientists and grow our capitol back.

Behold the mighty tale of the battle of Sparta :

As there are 2 CG1 archers, I decide to try the gambit : I suicide our 2 CR1 axes, wounding the archers (0,3 and 2 Str remaining). Our CR3 axe wipes out the strong arch, but is badly wounded. And soon...

The city is ours !! our 2 axes, 2 pikes and scout garrison

On next turns however, a greek sword and phalanx (both combat 2) come by, and KILL THE HEALTHY AXE AND BOTH SPEARS!!!
Some hope shows up : cyrus, at war with Alex sends some rienforcements. Besides, the greek are badly wounded and our remaining axe is at 3/4 health. I decide not going for peace yet.

But on the IT : the evil spear kills our CR3 axe

And the redlined (1,5 Str) swordsman attacks our scout... and LOOSES!!!

And this mighty action is rewarded with our first Great General.


We therefore keep Sparta, and I immediately declare peace for some cash, leaving Cyrus in charche of kicking Alex's butt (more on that later) since rienforcements are too far away.


Now guess who's putting cultural pressure on the new town, by the way... Alex?


Wrong :

To be continued...

 

[Eshnunna]

whoops, double post

 

[Eshnunna]

Okay, the rest of the set was more builder-oriented : we'll need a good infra to max out the janissaries once they become available.

As soon as CS was discovered, I switched to beaurocracy, and globally let the cities grow while building infra.


On foreign affairs :
Augie came by and asked us to stop trading with big B. As he's more powerful and a bit friendlier, I accepted.

The political situation is quite messy on the western border, with Arbela close to our Sparta and the northern Gold + Incense greek city. But soon Cy and Alex decide to settle the matter and simply swap towns

In between, Cy tries to grab our city site I was postponing. The city is founded in a hurry, it can become a decent production town.

Isa tries to force us into a war w. Nappy. And she makes peace the following turn. I love when I don't cave in and the AI does that

After discovering most of paper, and maxing pop in Istambul, the scientists are re-hired, and e few turns later...

We enter renaissance in 650 AD, not bad
An overview of our Empire :

I rebuilt some (bronze-based) military, and courthouses (we'll need that FP soon when we go janissary rampage), and more workers, who started chain irrigating food low sites.
Sparta is motherland yearning unhappy, but not under cutural presure (Arbela still belongs to Alex, and I juist whipped a Lib in it). We should eradicate greece soon.
After gunpowder we' can backfill very quickly for Iron, calendar and such basic stuff. Last time I checked, no one had alphabet yet, which is good for our tech lead.

We have still a GG to burn. I do't know if heroic epic is available, XP-wise, so I kept the guy, being unable to decide as well what our military city will be (I vote for Gaul, though )

Next player will discover Gunpowder, lucky bastid. Soon we will rule the planet with our mighty Janissaries.

The save :
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/63350/RK-07_AD-0650.CivWarlordsSave

 

[pholkhero]

phew ~ I don't think i've EVER seen a scout win vs a sword....wish there was a pic!

i've got it...er...would have it no fair editing while i post

 

[Bede]

Rock throwers to support the Janissaries!

Nice job, there, Eshnunna!

Since we have Education a Military Academy in whatever town becomes our military depot is a good use for the Great General. Combined with the HE and a DI or two you'll have quite the troop trainer

 

[Jet]

Medic III Scout! You know you want to.

 

[Meatbuster]

Miltary Academy is authorized by me.
Medic I scout is fine.

Crud, curse my home computer. It's almost to Janissaries and I DON'T GET TO ENJOY USING THEM!

 

[pholkhero]

I think the Academy would be best for now to start cranking out an army. Once the warring starts, we should get another GG quick enough for a Medic III unit.

Will be playing tonight.

 

[pholkhero]

Trouble in Paradise, all:

Turn 211 (650 AD)
Istanbul finishes: Market
Apache grows: 4

IBT:
Oh, and I was just thinking of you . . . of how acquiring your empire would be nice.

*choke* I- uh...didn't mean now...

Turn 212 (665 AD)
He only sent one horse arhcer? can that be right? (note: no, that wasn't right.)
Spearman promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Ottoman territory at Edirne, Spearman defeats (2.64/4): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 77.9%)

Edirne finishes: Spearman
Gaul finishes: Courthouse

IBT:
While defending in Celtic territory near Edirne, Spearman loses to: Celtic Horse Archer (3.48/6) (Prob Victory: 32.0%)

Turn 213 (680 AD)
Gaul begins: Walls
Spearman promoted: Combat I
1st Spearman of Edirne (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Ottoman territory at Edirne, 1st Spearman of Edirne (Spearman) defeats (3.44/4): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.9%)
Ankara begins: Axeman

And here's the REAL army:

Yowser! and we've got naught but 3 units in that city!!

ALSO: I don't know what to do with our great general. Don't want to settle him Edirne for fear it'll get caputred...but . . .

I stopped here for now for some discussion, as i think we WILL lose a city unless everything is just exactly perfect . . .

 

[Eshnunna]

yikes Sorry bout that, i should have focused on military more...

It seems that we will loose that city, but as well the copper. Therefore (might be a question of shere survival), we should go and discover IW and pray for some in capital or elsewhere.

Gaul is a bit far away but could do some nice place for the GG.

Seeing the forces in presence, maybe we should recenter on our 3 northern cities, and unfortunately let that bastid take the southern ones and pillage us.

We can only hope he will divide his forces and we can guerilla him out of here, while rebuilding a sizeable army. Maybe the janissaries will come handy right on time...
BTW, could Augie be bribed to war w. Brennus? He's his worst ennemy, and has quite a few prats running around.

I cannot say much, but.. good luck.

 

[Bede]

Brennus is not fooling around, is he?

Get out the whip, I guess. Axes and spears before the copper is gone. Three turns max.

And hope we can buy some help.

 

[dot]

lurker's comment: Leading troops as a warlord is no option for you? I mean giving leadership promotion and free upgrades for some units can be of quite some help, imho.

Regards, .

 

[pholkhero]

well, i'll at work now for the next couple hours, but i'll play this later. I DON'T think i'm going to play 30 b/c w/my luck lately in my games, i've been losing city after city.

Will whip and bribe and pray



edit: re: GG ~ any consensus??

 

[Bede]

The absolute best use for the GG is a Military Academy since we have Education. Attaching him to a troop will only get him killed.

 

[pholkhero]

good, Academy'd @ Gaul ~ i've played; report to follow once the kid's in bed ~

 

[pholkhero]

Turn 213 (680 AD)
Well, as we discussed, I got the empire ready for some group therapy.
Istanbul begins: Spearman
Sparta begins: Axeman
Sparta begins: Spearman
Sparta begins: Axeman
Konya begins: Spearman
Bursa begins: Spearman
Gaul begins: Archer
Gaul begins: Spearman
Did i mention it was therapy? i whipped soldiers in every town that could, paying the penalty and all. I cross my fingers, thankful they'll finish this turn!

Istanbul grows: 5
Istanbul finishes: Spearman
Edirne finishes: Spearman
Ankara grows: 3
Ankara finishes: Axeman
Gaul finishes: Spearman
Sparta's borders expand
Sparta finishes: Axeman

IBT:
While defending in Celtic territory near Edirne, 1st Spearman of Edirne (Spearman) loses to: Celtic Axeman (2.90/5) (Prob Victory: 0.8%) Is this just the beginning?

Turn 214 (695 AD)
Last turn, Brennus now broke his stack in half sending 4 chars and 1 Gallic towards Edirne, and (to the tune of 12 Days of Xmas) 3 HAs, 2 Gallic Swordss, an Axe and a char-ee-ot

More soldiers everywhere!
Edirne begins: Axeman
Gaul begins: Axeman
Istanbul begins: Axeman
Ankara begins: Axeman

I also moved our GG last turn:

Gaul finishes: Military Academy

1st Spearman of Gaul (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
2nd Spearman of Edirne (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
1st Axeman of Ankara (Axeman) promoted: Combat I


Istanbul finishes: Axeman
Ankara's borders expand
Bursa finishes: Spearman

IBT:
The Celt attacks:
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, Axeman defeats (3.40/5): Celtic Gallic Warrior (Prob Victory: 90.8%)
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, 2nd Spearman of Edirne (Spearman) defeats (2.44/4): Celtic Chariot (Prob Victory: 99.5%)
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, Archer I of Edirne (Archer) defeats (3.00/3): Celtic Chariot (Prob Victory: 98.0%)
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, Archer I of Edirne (Archer) defeats (3.00/3): Celtic Chariot (Prob Victory: 98.0%)
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, Archer I of Edirne (Archer) defeats (3.00/3): Celtic Chariot (Prob Victory: 99.4%)
woohoo! 5-5!

Cyrus comes by, and needs our help:

Yeah, right! We've got enough on our hands right now!

Turn 215 (710 AD)
I fortify a spear in Bursa just in case they try to head that way, and I'm glad i prayed. I also fortify another axe at Konya in case Edirne falls and they head east. It won't do much, but it's better than nothing.

More soldiers, please.
Bursa begins: Axeman
Istanbul begins: Axeman

Archer I of Edirne (Archer) promoted: City Garrison III that should help, i think!
1st Axeman of Istanbul (Axeman) promoted: Combat I
1st Spearman of Istanbul (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
Axeman promoted: Combat I

Istanbul grows: 4
Istanbul finishes: Axeman
Edirne finishes: Axeman
Ankara finishes: Axeman
Gaul finishes: Axeman
Konya finishes: Spearman

IBT:
2nd Battle of Edirne:
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, Archer I of Edirne (Archer) loses to: Celtic Horse Archer (2.04/6) (Prob Victory: 74.9%) This was the one i just promoted to CGIII!!
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, Axeman defeats (0.80/5): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 53.9%)
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, 2nd Spearman of Edirne (Spearman) defeats (1.32/4): Celtic Chariot (Prob Victory: 59.6%)
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, 1st Axeman of Edirne (Axeman) defeats (2.45/5): Celtic Gallic Warrior (Prob Victory: 79.1%)
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, 1st Axeman of Edirne (Axeman) loses to: Celtic Gallic Warrior (1.44/6) (Prob Victory: 4.7%)
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, Axeman loses to: Celtic Axeman (3.95/5) (Prob Victory: 0.0%) [pictured below]

Ugh, not so good there!

Turn 216 (725 AD)
Nothing much this turn but moving units and building more. I'm rushing everyone south to Ankara as the fallback position. We've got naught but a few units left in Edirne, and I don't think it'll last much longer...but who knows? We *may* get lucky! I also send a few units south from Anakara to try and take some pressure of Edirne.

Edirne begins: Archer
Gaul begins: Archer

1st Axeman of Gaul (Axeman) promoted: Combat I
2nd Spearman of Edirne (Spearman) promoted: Combat II
2nd Axeman of Ankara (Axeman) promoted: Combat I
2nd Axeman of Istanbul (Axeman) promoted: Combat I

Edirne finishes: Archer

IBT:
And again they come in:
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, 2nd Archer of Edirne (Archer) loses to: Celtic Gallic Warrior (0.48/6) (Prob Victory: 74.6%)
While defending in Ottoman territory at Edirne, 2nd Spearman of Edirne (Spearman) loses to: Celtic Axeman (3.95/5) (Prob Victory: 19.1%)
But this time, it's not enough!
Edirne lost The picture i took didn't come out ~ oh well, who wants one anyway.

Confucianism has spread: Edirne (Celtic Empire)

Turn 217 (740 AD)
While attacking in Ottoman territory near Ankara, 2nd Axeman of Ankara (Axeman) defeats (4.10/5): Celtic Axeman (Prob Victory: 84.8%) Ahhh! Sweet revenge to the satan spawn that razed our city!

Istanbul begins: Settler There's NO way i'm going to let Brennus have that spot!

Bursa grows: 4

IBT:
While defending in Celtic territory near Camulodunum, 2nd Axeman of Ankara (Axeman) loses to: Celtic Horse Archer (3.12/6) (Prob Victory: 4.4%)

Cripes! Stupid horse archers! I never knew they were so strong!!

I also noticed on the last interturn that Arbela was recaptured:

That should help with the culture in Sparta.

Turn 218 (755 AD)
Time to take the fight into Celtia!
While attacking in Celtic territory near Camulodunum, Spearman loses to: Celtic Gallic Warrior (2.10/6) (Prob Victory: 87.9%) 87%!!
While attacking in the wild near Konya, 1st Spearman of Istanbul (Spearman) defeats (1.72/4): Celtic Gallic Warrior (Prob Victory: 99.4%)

Gaul grows: 4
Konya grows: 3

IBT:
While defending in Celtic territory at Camulodunum, 1st Spearman of Istanbul (Spearman) loses to: Celtic Spearman (4.00/4) (Prob Victory: 3.2%) It's like those "give a penny, take a penny" jars at the mall!

and Auggie has a deal for us!!

I jumped on this!

Turn 219 (770 AD)
I whipped the settler at Istanbul. I think we just might get the spot! Let's push on into Celtia. Now's the time, bee-yatch!
While attacking in the wild near Konya, 1st Spearman of Konya (Spearman) defeats (2.80/4): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.6%)
While attacking in the wild near Konya, 1st Axeman of Istanbul (Axeman) defeats (4.30/5): Celtic Spearman (Prob Victory: 99.3%)


Istanbul finishes: Settler
Ankara grows: 3
Gaul finishes: Archer
Apache grows: 5

IBT:

Turn 220 (785 AD)
Gaul begins: Spearman

1st Archer of Gaul (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I

Meanwhile, i'm glad i fortified that spear at Bursa b/c there are now 2 HAs hanging around the area.
While attacking in Ottoman territory at Bursa, 1st Spearman of Bursa (Spearman) defeats (2.48/4): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 68.3%) Nice! [/borat]

Konya finishes: Barracks

IBT:
While defending in Ottoman territory at Bursa, Archer loses to: Celtic Horse Archer (4.86/6) (Prob Victory: 33.6%) How can this be? An archer defending in a 40% city?!? adn the HA has -10% to city attack?!?

Monty wants us to cancel deals:

No thanks. He's right next to us and I don't even KNOW where you are. Sorry, feather head.

Turn 221 (800 AD)
Konya begins: Hammam
1st Spearman of Bursa (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
Gaul finishes: Spearman
Sparta grows: 3

IBT:
While defending in Ottoman territory at Bursa, Worker loses to: Celtic Horse Archer (5.40/6) (Prob Victory: 66.4%)total f-in weed on the worker loss...i've been so worried taht we're going to lose the spot for Edirne!

Turn 222 (815 AD)
Gaul begins: Walls
Gaul begins: Archer

I finally am able to settle on the ruins of our old city:

Notice the War Elephants!! I started it on walls first, but then later changed it to a library for culture growth.

2nd Spearman of Gaul (Spearman) promoted: Combat I

New Edirne begins: Walls
Istanbul grows: 3

IBT:

Turn 223 (830 AD)
And i can finally clear out the HA menace:
While attacking in Ottoman territory at Bursa, 1st Spearman of Bursa (Spearman) defeats (4.00/4): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 80.4%)

Ankara finishes: Courthouse
Gaul finishes: Archer

IBT:
While defending in Ottoman territory at New Edirne, 1st Spearman of Gaul (Spearman) loses to: Celtic War Elephant (3.44/8) (Prob Victory: 33.6%) Jesus! Those friggin' Elephants are powerful! I hate 'em (unless we've got them).

Turn 224 (845 AD)
Ankara begins: University There's nothing much we can do here until the jungle comes down. It'll be a great commerce city then, though.
Gaul begins: Walls
2nd Archer of Gaul (Archer) promoted: City Garrison I
While attacking in Ottoman territory at New Edirne, 1st Spearman of Konya (Spearman) defeats (2.48/4): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 64.5%) That War Elephant was hiding htis guy. Not any more
1st Spearman of Bursa (Spearman) promoted: Combat II
New Edirne begins: Library

IBT:
While defending in Ottoman territory at New Edirne, 1st Axeman of Istanbul (Axeman) loses to: Celtic War Elephant (3.12/8) (Prob Victory: 39.8%) Ugh! Even wounded he still wins!!

Nappy gets all snappy:

so I decide to make him happy
and agree.

Turn 225 (860 AD)
1st Spearman of Konya (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
While attacking in Ottoman territory at New Edirne, 1st Spearman of Konya (Spearman) defeats (2.52/4): Celtic War Elephant (Prob Victory: 98.1%) Finally, the latest threat is eliminated.
ALSO: Cyrus and Alex are at peace

IBT:
While defending in the wild near Apache, 1st Archer of Gaul (Archer) loses to: Celtic Horse Archer (2.40/6) (Prob Victory: 19.2%) What in the world is that crap! 19%!! Stupid!

Turn 226 (875 AD)
1st Spearman of Konya (Spearman) promoted: Combat II
Ankara grows: 4


IBT:
While defending in the wild near Apache, Worker loses to: Celtic Horse Archer (4.20/6) (Prob Victory: 80.8%) For some reason, i have a worker blindspot, i think.

Turn 227 (890 AD)
Christianity has spread: Ankara

Axeman promoted: Combat I
Ankara begins: Worker
Gaul's borders expand
Gaul finishes: Walls

IBT:

Turn 228 (905 AD)
Gaul begins: Spearman
While attacking in Ottoman territory at Apache, Spearman defeats (4.00/4): Celtic Horse Archer (Prob Victory: 99.1%) Well, at least I got rid of the HA what kilt' our archer.
Bursa finishes: Hammam

IBT:

Turn 229 (920 AD)
Bursa begins: Archer
Ankara begins: Spearman
Istanbul grows: 4
Ankara finishes: Spearman
Gaul grows: 5
Gaul finishes: Spearman

IBT:

Turn 230 (935 AD)
Gaul begins: Spearman
3rd Spearman of Gaul (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
1st Spearman of Ankara (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
Gaul finishes: Spearman
Apache grows: 6

IBT:

Turn 231 (950 AD)
Gaul begins: Spearman
4th Spearman of Gaul (Spearman) promoted: Combat I
Axeman promoted: Woodsman I

Here's the military situation now:

Just those two units for now. We've got some more units coming down from the south.

All in all, it didn't go as bad as I thought it would've. There was nothing behind that stack this time, so we pulled through with a small loss in the end. not too shabby.

The Save.

 

[Eshnunna]

Wow, awesome work

Definitely glad the AI had not too many troops after the first stack. And you enven prevented em to pillage us too much

Let the big Bastid enjoy the soon-to-come wrath of our Janissaries.