Romance of the Three Kingdoms VII (PS2)

[Knight-Dragon]

Finally found it! It's a great game. Couldn't stop playing, just went on and on and on. It's one of those just-one-more-turn games.

Had finished 2 beginner games and now playing 1 advanced one. In my first game, playing as a created ronin officer and ended up as Warlord (advisor with broad powers over each city - second only to the liege himself) for my liege just before the last province fell to us.

In my second game, playing too as a created ronin officer. Mostly in the role of a frontline prefect for Sun Jian. Towards the end, the game picked up so fast I was left behind in the red heartland. And my War ability was 110.

Presently playing as a created officer helping Cao Cao. Prefect of Bei Hai and facing down Yuan Shao's armies fr the north. Scary.... I think they'll attk me any time now. Going to be fun.

Basically the game can be played as a RPGsque game, as an officer and working your way up the rungs of power. If you're playing as liege, then it's pretty much the same as the older games.

I find playing as a non-liege to be quite fun although at times when my liege simply transfer officers in my city (and their attached units) elsewhere to be plain irritating. Also no option to specify to the liege what I need (I was at this city with below 50k ppl and can't conscript - really wanted some manpower for my army ).

The battles now mainly take place in the field (rather than the city walls). Very fun - a cross with the style in Genghis Khan 2 and RoTK3. Battlefield morale is very important. I'd say 1/3 is the no of troops, 1/3 is strategy, unit type, and the remainder 1/3 is simply luck.

All in all, very fun game, playing as an underling. Faster too.

 

[tonberry]

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon
Finally found it! It's a great game. Couldn't stop playing, just went on and on and on. It's one of those just-one-more-turn games.

Had finished 2 beginner games and now playing 1 advanced one. In my first game, playing as a created ronin officer and ended up as Warlord (advisor with broad powers over each city - second only to the liege himself) for my liege just before the last province fell to us.

In my second game, playing too as a created ronin officer. Mostly in the role of a frontline prefect for Sun Jian. Towards the end, the game picked up so fast I was left behind in the red heartland. And my War ability was 110.

Presently playing as a created officer helping Cao Cao. Prefect of Bei Hai and facing down Yuan Shao's armies fr the north. Scary.... I think they'll attk me any time now. Going to be fun.

Basically the game can be played as a RPGsque game, as an officer and working your way up the rungs of power. If you're playing as liege, then it's pretty much the same as the older games.

I find playing as a non-liege to be quite fun although at times when my liege simply transfer officers in my city (and their attached units) elsewhere to be plain irritating. Also no option to specify to the liege what I need (I was at this city with below 50k ppl and can't conscript - really wanted some manpower for my army ).

The battles now mainly take place in the field (rather than the city walls). Very fun - a cross with the style in Genghis Khan 2 and RoTK3. Battlefield morale is very important. I'd say 1/3 is the no of troops, 1/3 is strategy, unit type, and the remainder 1/3 is simply luck.

All in all, very fun game, playing as an underling. Faster too.

Increase your bond with your liege. With 100, your liege accept nearly all your demands.

Do you know that you can play multiplayer? Just press L2 + R2 + select. Look like a cheat but it's work very well.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by tonberry
Increase your bond with your liege. With 100, your liege accept nearly all your demands.

I know, I know. I also bond with a lot of good officers up to the max, so in case when their rulers chged, I can try recruiting them. Works a few times too.

Do you know that you can play multiplayer? Just press L2 + R2 + select. Look like a cheat but it's work very well.

You can!? Wow, this I don't know, thanks. What do you by 'multiplayer'?

I'll have to try this.....

 

[tonberry]

Originally posted by Knight-Dragon
I know, I know. I also bond with a lot of good officers up to the max, so in case when their rulers chged, I can try recruiting them. Works a few times too.

You can!? Wow, this I don't know, thanks. What do you by 'multiplayer'?

I'll have to try this.....

Just try it. Press L2+R2+Select and you will have a menu to add up to 8 officers.

 

[damunzy]

VII sounds like a lot of fun....I might have to get a PS2 just for that game....or does anyone know if there is a good, legal ofcourse, emulator for PS2?

 

[floppa21]

I haven't heard of an emulator for PS2 YET ... Eventually though...

 

[lordwu84]

omg!!! ROTK VII??!!! I love ROTK almost as much as Civ, but I prefer to play the Chinese versions. Any ideas where I can get a Chinese PC version, if it's out for the PC of course. I'm not getting PS2 until after Christmas, and I'd still prefer the Chinese language version, there's a greater sense of realism.

Anyways, any of you interested in making a Three Kingdoms Civ3 scenario? I made one for Civ2, (but it got deleted when my hard drive crashed) but I think Civ3 combat and diplomacy will fit San Guo much better. Anyone interested?

 

[Knight-Dragon]

I'd be interested in making such a scenario. In fact, I had thought about it, a few times. But not really up to it - too much work and some graphical technical expertise needed to create those Romance units. I can help out a bit (mostly with background info) but being by nature lazy, I can't really be the main drive behind such a project.

The Chinese ver is definitely out. Seen it a few years ago I think. Maybe by now VIII is out too, who knows? You can try this site which seems to be very good.

 

[lordwu84]

Yes, I saw VIII online somewhere. I want to buy the chinese version, but I have no idea where to get it here in the US. Any ideas?

About the scenario, I definetly will do one, not until next year though, (I'm currently working on a Eurasia map and am quite busy with college applications). By then hopefully they'll be enough units around so that I won't have to make any. But it won't be possible without a events editor (please Firaxis, please ...)

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Check with the distributors in Taiwan/Hong Kong. Usually the Chinese edition is targeted at these markets.

Well, if you need opinions on the scenario, I will be here (I think). I think you'll need to do some of the units though - not many people will be making Chinese-looking units.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Back fr a weekend of RTKing. Was playing in the advanced mode (where bond and loyalty stats are blanked out). A few further things : -

1) Lousy AI. Really lousy. Was now playing as Warlord (second-in-command/advisor) for Cao Cao and found my lord's crap. I had to personally take to the field to dispose of the Yuan clan, Sun Ce's forces in Wu (hard since I was attking fr the sea) and Ma Teng's forces rolling northwards out of Luoyang. The idea of wiping out the enemy lords one-by-one apparently didn't occur to Cao Cao - instead, you have his forces attking everywhere. Well, this wasn't new but by ver VII, I'd have expected something better.

The battle AI is even worse. Although there're many new stuff like morale etc, the AI doesn't seem aware of them. Cao Cao kept attking over the ocean and his forces arrived with morale of 25 vs Sun Ce's of 100. And I can't do anything cos I wasn't the tactician or commander. Crap. Seemed like Cao Cao really love to do a few Chi Bis every now and then. In the end, I launched an attk on my Warlord authority and subdued Wu with relative ease, fr Yue Ling (where Manchuria meets Korea). Like I said, over the ocean.

2) Unlimited gold and food. Basically you can ignore this now - they're always there and more than enough ever for your use. You can find cities comfortably supporting armies 1/2 the size of the pop w/o even maximizing the land or econ stats of the city said. Ridiculous. Now I have so much gold and food, I don't even 'see' them at all.

3) Unrealistic weopan distribution. In the older games, you make weopans, when your unit goes to war, you arm them with it. Now? You make a weopan, give it to an officer and that officer will forever be able to form a unit of said weopan. E.g. you forge a horse, give it to someone. That someone will eternally be able to form horse units, even if he'd gone over to another side.

Although one good thing is that weopans now have required materials, available only in certain territories. E.g. elephants way to the south and west. Your side most control that territory if you want to provide the said weopan, plus a few other requirements.

Bah, still will be sticking out with this one despite all its glaring deficiencies.

 

[animepornstar]

i was playing rotk II, III and IV during the summer. found a site where they downloadable. great game, liked the III best.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

III was nice. I still like VII better though. Graphics-wise not much in the way of improvement but an interesting bent to the gameplay. Also more cities, quite a few more, like Yue Ling, Yunnan, Xiao Pei, Jian An, Wuwei and so on. 50+ cities now.

IV was crap though, now that I really think about it.

Another bit - in VII, your lord has an Imperial rank, bestowed by emperor. The better it is, the better the ranks you can assign to your underlings. The better your personal rank (not officer class), the more Tactical Points you'll have in battle. My current rank - Dragon. I like it.

Now eventually your lord can declare himself emperor (and effectively out of this system). Will have to name his country with a Chinese character. Now in my game, both Cao Cao and Sun Ce (the two most powerful lords) name their respective domains Yue. Dumb isn't it?

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Finished up the game where I was Cao Cao's warlord. Nothing memorable; not really that fun to play as Warlord. Mostimes I got left out when the forces in my current city went on the attk. Even though I have 100+ intel and war. Idiotic AI.

Now playing a new game in the Rise of Wei scenario as a new ruler in Yue Ling. Trashed Gongsun something and took Xiang Ping and then took Bei Ping as well from Gongsun Zan. Then stopped. Yuan Xi (or maybe Tan) got 90000 and 100000+ troops respectively in Nan Pi and Ji; with me having only 110000 troops. Wondering why the hell they hadn't attked yet. And now Cao Cao had come up fr Luoyang with 100000 troops in Jinyang. My area is heavily militarized and about 90000 of my troops in Yue Ling, waiting for a possible invasion fr the sea (fr Cheng Yang and Wu).

These names may not sound familiar; there're many new cities in VII.

And the AI still as dumb as ever. I used 104000 troops to attk Gongsun Zan's 93000 troops in Bei Ping and lost only 3-4k troops. My forces marched straight thru the field, not seeing anybody until I reached their main fort where Gongsun Zan and Zhao Yun were waiting like ducks. Cut them down with my arbalest troops (crossbow firing twice) and chged them with infantry. Idiots... Captured 60-70k fresh troops....

Also got my imperial favor up and got my Earl of the North title. Now main problem is lack of more officers. Got to get some more...

 

[damunzy]

Is there a difficulty leve lto the AI or the game? If so you might want to jack it up higher. I hope there is...the game sounds disapointing.

Also, is there built in MP support? I say something about a MP cheat, does it work for you K-D?

Also, sweet avatar. Can't beat my Sun Jian though.

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by PaleHorse76
Is there a difficulty leve lto the AI or the game? If so you might want to jack it up higher. I hope there is...the game sounds disapointing.

There's the beginner and advanced difficulty mode. In advanced, the stats for loyalty and bond are hidden. I only played once, the advanced mode and didn't detect much AI smart moves, compared with my earlier games. Maybe I need to play more....

Overall, the game feels different. As a ruler, you only have a certain amt of action points, so you cannot control every city as compared with prev versions.

You'll have to play it to see. The AI is much like in prev ver IMO.

Also, is there built in MP support? I say something about a MP cheat, does it work for you K-D?

Tried as I might, kept forgetting to test the L2-R2-select thingie. Anyway this is for the PS2; ain't no MP. It's a SP game as far as I can see.

Also, sweet avatar. Can't beat my Sun Jian though.

Conceited....

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Ho! My friend and I played as two player characters over the weekend, using the L2-R2-Select. It's quite fun. My friend was playing as Guan Yu and me, as a created character. Both of us worked for Liu Bei.

The best part was during the tournament. My friend and I were both at War 109 (I got the Sword of Light and he the Sword of Heaven). I won, barely. Only thing is on the screen, when the options to choose which move to use (offensive, normal etc), we didn't know which turn was for who. Simply press all the time. Confusing.

It really was like playing RPG in the Romance universe.

 

[floppa21]

I picked up VII and played through the first scenario, Yellow Turban Rebellion as a created character. Same as KD. Got landlocked at the end with ZERO officers in my city as a prefect and the last fifteen turns were waiting for Sun Jian to finish taking control of the land. I am enjoying this game immensely. Only other ROTK game I played was IV and I did not like it much.

Quick question for the expereinced. Is it possible to create a character and play as him through each of the 10 scenarios? I was an officer/prefect and after the scenario ended, I tried starting a new one with same character but all stats were back to starting postition... I guess the answer is no as war, int, pol and cha would be around 200 by the end?

 

[Knight-Dragon]

Originally posted by floppa21
I picked up VII and played through the first scenario, Yellow Turban Rebellion as a created character. Same as KD. Got landlocked at the end with ZERO officers in my city as a prefect and the last fifteen turns were waiting for Sun Jian to finish taking control of the land.

Yeah, pretty irritating. That's why shld play ruler or warlord; complete freedom in placing yourself and can order everyone.

I am enjoying this game immensely. Only other ROTK game I played was IV and I did not like it much.

But don't overplay. Towards the end, my eyes hurt trying to make out all the numbers on the TV. So now stopped to play FFX, which is more graphical.

Quick question for the expereinced. Is it possible to create a character and play as him through each of the 10 scenarios? I was an officer/prefect and after the scenario ended, I tried starting a new one with same character but all stats were back to starting postition... I guess the answer is no as war, int, pol and cha would be around 200 by the end?

Once you've created a character, it'd stored in the created officers section. Once you start a new game, you can call up this created character fr the saved created officers file but as you progressed thru the game and saving, it's saved as a general game file and not back in the created officers file. So each time you start a new game, when you call up your created character, it'd always be with the same stats as originally created.

Otherwise, it wouldn't be balanced. Best I can do is keep changing the birthyear to start at age 15 for each scenario.

Tip : Once you've visited all the sites and got all the items (weopans, horses etc), when you create a new officer, you will have better stats and skills.

 

[floppa21]

And some items can only be had by being certain characters like Guan Yu or Zhang Fei unless you are a liege, recruit them, and then strip their item? DW3 is the game that hurts me. Physical pain in my eyes after eight hours of gameplay. Sheesh. I'll start the second scenario here soon.