Rulers of Russia Mod

[Thormodr]

I use:
http://www.imageshack.us/

Good to use for posting SG pictures and such. You can resize it with imageshack but you can't edit the picture otherwise unless you use a program like photoshop.
Hope that helps.

 

[NeverMind]

.. how did you get these puictures in? I'm a complete novice at that and got scared seein that these are nif files that I don't have a prayer at creating. How do you make civ accept just that one static picture?

Welcome to CFC!

You should better look through a complete tutorial by Jecrell here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=144425

Actually, I'd say the most bloody war in the world history was WWI.
Also, it wasn't Russia to win the war but the Allies.

Read previuos posts by other guys. Probably, you'll find something new for you about WW2.

.. Putin is as much financial for his country as Berlusconi for his... if you get what I mean

To be honest, no, i dont get what you mean.

 

[NeverMind]

Pacifism seems a little strange for Alexander II, as he wasn't exactly very peaceful. OTOH, Emancipation would be very good for him, IMHO, as he's the one responsible for the abolition of serfdom in Russia. He's called "the Liberator" (Tsar-Osvoboditel) for a reason.

Good point. Maybe I'll use your suggestion. My idea of giving him Pacifism as civic based mainly on russian peaceful external diplomacy in Europe after The Crimean War till 1877-78 war with Ottomans. But surely Pacifism is more suitable for Alexander III, called "The Peacemaker".

And thanks again for your tip about the size of a picture before conversion to dds. I find it very useful.

 

[Thormodr]

Here is a good article on Putin's ex-economic advisor.
Putin was in part responsible for the Yukos Oil disaster.
The economist, a well respected financial publication apparently doesn't think to highly of Putin either.
http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/article/0,13005,901060109-1145201,00.html

As for Berlesconi:

Berlusconi's legacy

What has gone wrong with the Italian economy, and how can it be put right? These are the main questions this survey will seek to answer. But it will do so in the context of Italy's unruly political scene. Silvio Berlusconi's centre-right government, elected in May 2001, seems likely to manage the rare feat of staying in office for a full term (ending next spring)—a first for a post-war government in Italy. Mr Berlusconi is immensely proud of this. But he has much less to be proud of when it comes to the economy. In his 2001 election campaign, he promised to apply the business acumen that had helped him to become Italy's richest man to make all Italians richer. This he has conspicuously failed to do.

The Economist's view of Mr Berlusconi is well known. We declared in April 2001 that he was unfit to lead Italy, because of the morass of legal cases brought against him at various stages of his business career and because of the conflicts of interest inherent in his ownership of Italy's three main private television channels. Almost five years on, he still faces legal problems (of which more later), and he has done little to resolve his conflicts of interest: indeed, because the government owns RAI, the state broadcaster, Mr Berlusconi now controls or influences some 90% of Italian terrestrial television (which does not stop him complaining about his critics on TV). Our verdict of April 2001 stands.

http://www.economist.com/surveys/displaystory.cfm?story_id=5164061

 

[NeverMind]

...
But that aside, it seems this is shaping up to include some really good leaders, that all russian random game is going to be a beauty for this Russophile. I dont think, all any version of the game that I have played any other civ except Russia. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for support!

"All Russian game" really seems funny to me. For example, some quotes.
Ivan the Terrible to Catherine: "What may humble Russia do for the mighty Russia?")
Stalin about Lenin: "Lenin is all right as long as you keep an eye on him" (historically correct, i think)

I hope to make the mod more and more...russian , step by step.

 

[NeverMind]

As for Putin, main reason for giving him Financial trait was the stability, he brings to Russia, and financial stability as well, despite of YUKOS issue and some more issues of this kind.

 

[onedreamer]

Well I feel sorry for you if you don't get me NeverMind. I had read all posts before mine, and even though some posts in a forum won't make WW2 bloodier than WW1, I don't see what you meant anyways.

 

[GrinningMonk]

Well I feel sorry for you if you don't get me NeverMind. I had read all posts before mine, and even though some posts in a forum won't make WW2 bloodier than WW1, I don't see what you meant anyways.

Oh look this argument could go one for years and neither side would budge hmmm.....bit like 1917

If you took it on numbers alone, well the Spanish Flu killed as many as WWI did, and WWII was responsible for around 30million or so more deaths, many of the civilian, most of them Russian. However if you are talking about the sheer viciousness and brutality of the actual fighting I think you would find them neck and neck.

Nevermind, more "Russian" is fine by me, just need to replace the tech quote mp3's from skanky ol' leonard to some nice sounding lady with a thick russian accent and i'll be in heaven.

No matter who wins in the all russian game, it'll still be the correct choice

 

[Thormodr]

Hee hee. I am maybe a little smart but I love Google. It really is a wonderful search engine.

Here is an excellent link on the subject:
Source List and Detailed Death Tolls for the Twentieth Century Hemoclysm
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm

First World War (1914-18): 15 000 000
Russian Civil War (1917-22): 9 000 000
Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53): 20 000 000
Second World War (1937-45): 55 000 000
Chinese Civil War (1945-49): 2 500 000

Naturally these are all estimates and historians still argue over the exact amount but no one can deny the absolute horror of war.

I will agree however that even though World War two had many more deaths, the horrors of trench warfare must have been unbelievable. People literally drowning to death in mud. War World two however also had Nazi death camps and the totally inhumane treatment of war prisoners. So really, equally brutal in my opinion. Never again I say...

 

[GarretSidzaka]

hmm

when you add up the deathtolls in ww2, you need to add all atrocities committed as well as combat deaths.
i think the ww2 average deaths per week (after all was said and done) was some where between 10,000 and 15,000. (please correct me)

ive heard as high as 75,000,000 if you throw in hitler, stalin, and east asia with the combat and bombing related casualties.

 

[GrinningMonk]

Yeah, the above number, and most other counts I've seen usually add in civilian casualties, the russian civilian casualties alone is phenomenal. If you explore the above link the total given including the sino-japanese war (remember teh war in asia strated a couple of years before that in europe) as around 85million, which to be honest is one of the larger i've ever seen, but i think that the war in asia is often overlooked for some bizarre reason.

 

[stas]

Hey guys, I could design a 3D model of the ruler who wins this. It would probably look better than just a 2D pic.

 

[NeverMind]

Nevermind, more "Russian" is fine by me, just need to replace the tech quote mp3's from skanky ol' leonard to some nice sounding lady with a thick russian accent and i'll be in heaven.

I would like to hear "Baba Etu" in Russian, but i'm not sure, if anybody in russian pop music is able to perfome it

 

[NeverMind]

Hey guys, I could design a 3D model of the ruler who wins this. It would probably look better than just a 2D pic.

Hey, stas, it would be GREAT! But is it possible? As far as i know there is no one user-made 3d leaderhead yet.

 

[GrinningMonk]

I would like to hear "Baba Etu" in Russian, but i'm not sure, if anybody in russian pop music is able to perfome it

Best I can do you for is a couple different versions of the old ww2 song "Katyusha"

Hey guys, I could design a 3D model of the ruler who wins this. It would probably look better than just a 2D pic.

I think it might still be just a pic, not the animated head, but 3d none the less....until the sdk is out

 

[GarretSidzaka]

hmm, grinning monk, did you say that when china and japan where going thru all that hell in '37 that 85,000,000 people could have died? and if so, would we consider that a deathtoll of ww2 since the war never ended there until '45?

 

[Walter Hawkwood]

I would like to hear "Baba Etu" in Russian, but i'm not sure, if anybody in russian pop music is able to perfome it

Very, very simple. Go to any church. "Baba Etu" is "Отче наш".

 

[GrinningMonk]

hmm, grinning monk, did you say that when china and japan where going thru all that hell in '37 that 85,000,000 people could have died? and if so, would we consider that a deathtoll of ww2 since the war never ended there until '45?

Well not me, just quoting the number in one of the sources on that link

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm#Second

That includes to '37-'45 asian war, the '39-'45 european war plus any and all miscellaneous democides so that is why it is a particularly large number, though maybe not a accurate account of 'war related' deaths, which is given elsewhere around the 55mill mark.

So many grey areas though, when you consider the amount of state secrecy in many of the belligerent nations, there is still much Soviet evidence that needs to come out imo so who really knows.

 

[GrinningMonk]

http://liturgy.ru/zvuk/zvuk.php

4 versions of said Отче наш here if that helps

 

[NeverMind]

Walter Hawkwood, GrinningMonk It turns out that we have a small russian speaking community here. It's a pleasure to see russian language at these boards. Спасибо!

I think "Отче наш" and "Katyusha" will be included in the upcoming Rulers of Russia soundtrack.