DaveMcW
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Here is the ruleset that was discussed in this thread. Please vote on whether to accept it.
We also have two proposed amendments to vote on.
1 Out of Game Actions
1.1 -- Team Espionage
Using external forms of intelligence gathering against opposing teams is forbidden.
Example: Entering Team Forums, joining multiple teams using different accounts, actively petitioning other players for information, looking around on the CFC (or a 3rd party website) image database for screenshots and save uploads, or anything else deemed as deliberate espionage is not tolerated will be harshly dealt with.
1.2 -- Screenshot Trading
Screenshots taken in-game of a city, minimap, or anything else may only be given, traded, or exchanged to other teams once one of the pair knows paper.
1.3 -- Save Manipulation
Editing the save file (with or without a utility) is not allowed. Any actions that would allow you to edit or view the save file of another team is not allowed.
1.4
Teams may not contact each other until they have met in-game. Meta-game conversations in the UN are exempted (such as votes on rule-set amendments )
1.5
Teams are not allowed to play ahead on a downloaded version of the current save (that includes any and all actions).
2 In Game Actions
2.1 -- Suicide Training
Knowingly sacrificing a unit to an ally in order to yield experience points to the victorious unit is forbidden.
2.2 -- Reloads
In the event the game is reloaded to a previous point in time for any reason, each team must faithfully recreate any in-game actions they took after that point, to the best of their ability. Teams are encouraged to keep an explicit log of actions taken to facilitate the best recreation possible.
2.3 -- Anti-Espionage Teching
You must wait 20 hours (or the average length of a turn, whichever is faster) between major changes to your research rate, or changing your current tech. If an admin determines that you are deliberately hiding your research from teams with espionage on you, they may reveal your research progress and income to those teams.
3 In Game Gifts
3.1 -- Military Unit Gifting
Gifting/receiving units for the purpose of fighting an enemy while in an ally's territory who isn't at war with them, and then gifting it back to avoid it being killed is prohibited.
Great People are excepted from this rule, and may be gifted at any time.
3.2 -- Naval Unit Gifting
A team may never gift units loaded in a naval vessel to another team, nor may they gift a loaded naval vessel.
3.3 -- Double Move Gifting
Units that have attacked in a turn are not allowed to be gifted to any other civilization.
3.4 -- City Gifting
The admin must approve all trades and gifts involving cities before they are offered.
Reasons to reject a city trade include but are not limited to:
- The city is about to be captured in war
- Abuse of game mechanics
- Denying right of conquest
- Keeping a civilization alive indefinitely
4 Game Procedure
4.1 -- Pausing The Game
Each team gets three timeouts.
To use a timeout, post your intention in the turn tracker thread, and then press the [Pause] key to pause the game.
Timeouts last 24 hours, or until the pausing team presses the [Pause] key to unpause the game. After 24 hours, any team may unpause the game.
The admin might publicly ask a team to pause the game while reviewing an issue. Pausing the game without admin permission uses up one of your timeouts.
4.2 -- Awareness
If you discover a rules violation it is your duty to inform all participants (via Game Forum) of the violation or the solicitation thereof by any player.
4.3 -- New Exploits
If you discover a new exploit it is your duty to inform all participants (via Game Forum). Amendments for banning newly discovered exploits will require a majority vote.
4.4 -- Voting
After the game has commenced votes are tallied by team, not by individuals within the teams.
4.5 -- Punishments for Violations
Violations of these rules will be dealt with through the use of various in-game sanctions decided upon by the admin. Possible punishments include: Gold Payment, exclusion of a team member for a certain amount of turns, a formal warning, or anything else deemed appropriate.
4.6 -- Defeated Teams
If a team is defeated, any player on that team is permitted to join another team. These "refugee" players are free to share any information from their old team with their new team. This includes any images or screenshots or treaty documents that they "salvaged upon fleeing from the burning rubble of their last city." They may NOT engage in team espionage by reporting information on their new team to any other team. Additionally, defeated players may opt out of the remainder of the game.
4.7 -- Timer
The turn timer will be set for 40 hours per turn.
5 Double Moves
5.1 -- Turn Split
Turns will be split between two warring teams/alliances as follows:
Phase 0 ... 40:00 - 39:00 ... Team 2
Phase 1 ... 39:00 - 20:00 ... Team 1
Phase 2 ... 20:00 - 0:00 ... Team 2
The method of determining who gets which part of the turn is 2 fold:
1. the parties agree between themselves to an equitable split. If this is not possible then:
2. The team that moved last in the turn of the declaration of war will get the last part of the turn.
If a party finishes the turn early, they can signify this by a post in a specified thread indicating they have finished their turn and the next party can play their turn. They do NOT have to end turn, but they may end turn to signify that they have finished their turn in lieu of public posting.
Phase 0 is skipped if none of Team 2's units survived a battle the previous turn.
5.2 -- Allowed actions
In phase 0 belonging to the designated party, the following actions are legal:
Promoting any unit.
In phase 1 and 2 of the turn belonging to the designated party, the following actions are legal:
Moving any unit,
Promoting any unit,
Upgrading any unit,
Gifting a unit,
Drafting any unit.
This is the only part of the turn that these actions are legal.
If anyone uses auto-promote, or auto-moves, to gain an unlawful advantage, the Game Administrator may order a reload or have the offending units deleted from the game.
Slaving, changing city builds, and changing tiles worked, is legal during ANY part of the turn.
5.3 -- Joint attacks
If two players want to attack a single target i.e. a city belonging to a third party, Civ C, then they must move sequentially. ie Civ A attacks with all of its' units, and then Civ B attacks with all of its' units during the phase of the turn belonging to them. Civ C must wait until the phase of the turn belonging to it before it may counter attack or promote any units etc as proscribed above.
5.4 -- Declaring war
For the purpose of movement, declaring war will count as movement. Once war has been declared, the party declaring war has to finish moving all of their units and end their turn before half of the remaining turn time has elapsed since the declaration of war, or within half an hour, whichever is longer
In cases where a war declaration occurs and the side declared upon (the declared) still has units to move, the declared may still move these units, and this counts as a move for the purpose of which party gets phase 2 in all subsequent turns.
ALL DECLARATIONS OF WAR, AND ENDED TURNS, SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED via screenshot Also, please send an email stating you have declared war. This isn't a rule, it won't be enforced, but as said below it is good manners.
5.5 -- Retrospective analysis
The double move rule shall also be applicable to movement on the turn prior to the declaration of war.
Spoiler Illustrations :
The following are illustrations, and any any conflict between the illustrations and the rules as stated above, the illustrations are wrong
Example 1:
Civ D intends to declare war on Civ E. Civ D has a stack of 1 movers next to Civ E border that will be the attacking force.
On the turn before war is declared, every team apart from Civ D has ended turn. Civ D logs in, and moves the slow movers into Civ E land, declaring war. At the start of the next turn, Civ D immediately moves the slow mover stack onto a hill for extra defence.
This is an illegal double move, as Civ D during Civ Es' phase of the turn, under the "Retrospective analysis" rule
Example 2:
Civ F has a fast mover stack with no movement points 2 tiles away from Civ G border, with no roads on the tiles towards the border. At the end of the turn Civ F moves to road all of the tiles, making it possible for Civ F fast mover stack to attack a lightly defended Civ G city. Civ F ended turn after Civ G.
At the start of the next turn, Civ F declares war on Civ G, AFTER Civ G has logged in at least once, and razes the lightly defended city.
This is NOT a double move, as Civ G had the chance to move after Civ F roaded the tiles. It would be a double move, if Civ F moved before Civ G logged in and out of the game.
Example 3:
Civ M, N and O plan to declare war on Civ P.
Civ M declares war on Civ P, and moves all of their units. Civ P logs in and then moves units relevant to the conflict at hand, ending turn. Civ P is thereby allocated the SWP unless both Civ M and Civ P agree otherwise.
Example 4:
X turns later while Civ M and Civ P are still at war, Civ N wants to declare war on Civ P. Civ N may declare war on Civ P at any time, but must declare war during Civ Ms' turn if Civ N is to move any units. If Civ N declares war during Civ P part of the turn, Civ N may not move any units until the following turn until the phase of the turn belonging to Civ M.
Later on, Civs M and N are attacking Civ P, and have 2 stacks of units against a city of Civ P. Both stacks are identical, and contain catapults. It is decided that Civ M attacks first. Civ M decides to attack with all of its' catapults, and then stops. Civ N then attacks with all of it's catapults, and then with the remainder of it's units, capturing the city. This is a legal move. Once Civ N starts to attack, Civ M may not move, upgrade or promote any units involved in the attack in anyway.
Example 5:
Later still, Civ O decides to back stab Civs M and N. Civ M moves a stack of units into Civ P land, and Civ O declares war and attacks them, before Civ N has moved or phase 1 has finished. This is illegal, as Civ O is decided to be on Civ Ps' side and hence uses Civ P phase of the turn to move. If Civ O were to wait until it was the Civ P phase, then attack the stack during Civ P phase it would be legal.
(the reason for this distinction is to keep the game moving as much as possible).
Example 6:
Civ R decides to gift units to Civ P. Civ R moves units into a city threatened by Civ Ms' units, and gifts the units immediately after the turn rolls over. This is illegal; the units may only be gifted during Civ Ps' phase 2. (this shouldn't matter as units can be gifted with 0 movement points remaining)
We also have two proposed amendments to vote on.
Amendment 1 - Sneaky Research Allowed
Delete rule 2.3 from the above ruleset.
Amendment 2 - No Espionage Civic Changes
You may not use Espionage to change a rival's civics.
. Flipping civics costs good commerce or spec turns that could have gone into something else. You can't flip civics into anything but your own anyway, so the incentive to even do this only exists if someone near you is running a civic that benefits them and you either can't run it or are better off with something else. That's a lot of ifs to go banning a strategy that can be countered.
SilentConfusion, wow
that is some killer insight... I can see that this game is going to be very fun
I voted for the ruleset. The amendments are
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