So I just had a recent Emperor game as America on Standard Terra, Epic, was fine tuning things I've learned through watching wainy and Tabarnak do their awesome strats (especially wainy's city selling - had really hilarious fun with it) and here's where I'll ramble into the gist of the title.
I was 2nd place top dog of the continent (ignoring China's fake wonderspamming score); the real boss was Korea, who gobbled up the Ottomans, parts of Polynesia and Babylon and an Aztec city I sold them
D). I was 2nd place in territory (having gobbled Polynesia's wonder capital and some cities, Babylon's capital and everything else, the Aztecs, the Arabs), I had the 2nd largest army on the continent (around 200,000-300,000 compared to Korean 500,000) and my relations with Korea was generally... pretty friendly actually. I mean, I don't see many games where when you get denounced (by China) for conquering an entire civ (the Aztecs), your friend (the Koreans) would jump in and denounced them (China) back. Sejong had no need for my luxes, which is a shame because I had plenty to sell, and the rest of the surviving civs... let's just say they wouldn't pay full price, but I traded with him regularly, gave him Open Borders every now and then (so his units could pass thru and hammer the Polynesians and Chinese) and surprisingly, despite having a superior army and landmass, he never came after me.
Until one day in the 2000s I decided to stop giving him Open Borders. I'm not sure if it was that refusal, or the fact that I went to the Chinese and asked them what they would pay for me to DOW Korea, or my increasing buildup of B17s turned Stealth Bombers and Mech Inf, or the masses of forces I suddenly placed on our mutual Babylonian borders... but it finally happened.
The interesting thing was that there was no need for him to go to war at all. The Chinese won a diplomatic victory, despite being smaller and how shall we say uranium-less (Chinese border cities got nuked repeatedly) and at long war with our Choson friend. The game was practically at its post Victory stage
I was 2nd place top dog of the continent (ignoring China's fake wonderspamming score); the real boss was Korea, who gobbled up the Ottomans, parts of Polynesia and Babylon and an Aztec city I sold them
D). I was 2nd place in territory (having gobbled Polynesia's wonder capital and some cities, Babylon's capital and everything else, the Aztecs, the Arabs), I had the 2nd largest army on the continent (around 200,000-300,000 compared to Korean 500,000) and my relations with Korea was generally... pretty friendly actually. I mean, I don't see many games where when you get denounced (by China) for conquering an entire civ (the Aztecs), your friend (the Koreans) would jump in and denounced them (China) back. Sejong had no need for my luxes, which is a shame because I had plenty to sell, and the rest of the surviving civs... let's just say they wouldn't pay full price, but I traded with him regularly, gave him Open Borders every now and then (so his units could pass thru and hammer the Polynesians and Chinese) and surprisingly, despite having a superior army and landmass, he never came after me.Until one day in the 2000s I decided to stop giving him Open Borders. I'm not sure if it was that refusal, or the fact that I went to the Chinese and asked them what they would pay for me to DOW Korea, or my increasing buildup of B17s turned Stealth Bombers and Mech Inf, or the masses of forces I suddenly placed on our mutual Babylonian borders... but it finally happened.
Spoiler :
The interesting thing was that there was no need for him to go to war at all. The Chinese won a diplomatic victory, despite being smaller and how shall we say uranium-less (Chinese border cities got nuked repeatedly) and at long war with our Choson friend. The game was practically at its post Victory stage
