I'm very thankful for that, too, having to report to some authority about my torturous activities, and being bogged down by rules, would really hamper my progress.
We must secure the existence of beer and a future with fields of Hops.
You can pack a lot of insult into 3-4 words....
Oh lol.
The problem is not using slurs. I have no desire to use slurs against anybody, such behavior is juvenile and beneath me (this includes, btw, terms like "redneck" or "white trash").
Color me surprised given the fondness for allegations of "fake news" expressed when any mildly critical article comes out about His Trumpiness and his courtiers.
I have some pretty strong criticisms of recent US immigration policy, but I have never had my opinions labeled as "hate speech". Now, it could be because I'm part of the
There's a huge difference between calling something "fake news" (a counter-criticism), and trying to shut down said news outlet.
To be honest that's probably just because your criticisms aren't really all that strong.
So you don't see any middle ground between criticizing immigration from Islamic countries and literally wanting to kill all Muslim people?
I'm not the one claiming membership of, or at least being a fellow-traveler of, a group that held a tiki-torch nighttime march shouting "the Jews will not replace us" and the next day holding a rally with the hakenkreuz or SS runes.
Again, color me unimpressed. The exchanges always seem to go:
Given we have Europeans on here claiming that seeing a woman covering up at the beach constitutes some sort of existential assault on their ideology, and European politicians that the sight of Muslims praying is equivalent to Nazi occupation, I have long ago stopped looking to Europe for rationality.
You're the one who wants to constantly bring it up. It's just bizarre, frankly.
My point is that when right-wingers complain about being "shut down" it is because they are literally being shut down, and aelf's attempt to frame it as "criticism" is incredibly dishonest. Calling something "fake news" is not even in the same universe.
I'm confused. Are you saying you are not a self-professed member/fellow traveler of the "alt-right", or that the people holding nighttime tiki torch marches shouting "the Jews will not replace us" and carry flags with the hakenkreuz and SS runes aren't part of/fellow travelers of the "alt-right"?
I dread asking for examples for fear of a deluge of websites filled with comments filled with calling people [CFC doesn't like this word] and globalists, but examples?
I'm not responsible for these people or the things they say. I'm not the one trying to talk about a Jewish conspiracy here, you are.
Examples of what..? Of leftists going to rallies to shut them down? Of leftists doxxing people and trying to get them fired? Are you seriously going to claim that this stuff doesn't happen?
If both groups consider themselves part of or fellow travelers to the "alt-right", it is valid to bring it up.
You mentioned right-wingers getting shut down so they couldn't speak.
The world isn't a safe space where the so-called alt-right gets to hold their rallies free from counter-protests. I mean, Christ, you might have a point if it was like 1980's Britain where they were literally street riots involving the openly neo-Nazi British Movement and National Front. Some unkind signs at a counter-protest does not a shut-down make, any more than people holding signs saying "Gay Sex is Good" next to a Westboro Baptist Church rally are "shutting down" the WBC.
I seem to remember Milo "Pedo Sex is Good" Yian-can'tspellhislastname doxxing multiple individuals because he was throwing a temper tantrum. (Wouldn't he sustained campaign of harassment against a SNL actor count as doxxing?) But either way, I don't like doxxing.
Some mean signs, counter-protests, and scummy internet behavior done by people claiming to be part of all sides does not comprise the sort of widespread "shut them down" you seem to be alleging, especially as I can turn on any cable news show and see some Trumpian brown-noser telling me how His Trumpiness is going to tweetstorm his way to greatness.
My question is what are your motives here? Are you trying to spread antisemitism? I'm perfectly content to ignore the subject entirely, yet you are insistent that every discussion must revolve around them. It's just really weird dude.
I'm not making any allegations as to the scale of the "shutting down", just pointing out that shutting someone down does not amount to criticism. When right-wingers complain about being shut down they're not complaining about counter protestors peacefully holding signs.
Seriously? I would argue that almost every mainstream news network besides Fox has been actively trying to get Trump impeached since he got into office, or in some other way hamper his agenda. That's pretty hard to deny.
I suppose you would be happy to ignore the neo-Nazis and clear anti-Semitism of the nighttime tiki-torch march carried out by people who, as I have been lead to believe, are part of or fellow travelers of your ideology.
Uh, yeah, you were making allegations to the scale of the "shutting down".
you said:
Pffft, don't look at me to defend the actions of major US corporate media. They chase after profit like a cheap hooker. Now we just see the Trumpian right on the firing line instead of the unimaginative left. I've been critical of major US corporate media since before it was cool.
I don't have anything against anybody for who they are, that's silly. It is also not my agenda to discuss Jewish conspiracy theories here, but it definitely seem to be yours.
Same here. Don't you then think it's awesome that Trump is standing up to them? You can disagree with Trump's politics, but still be happy that he calls out our corporate media.
There's a difference between Trump's version of "fake news" in which we know full well that what he claims is fake really isn't, because it's right there on tape or in photographs and the fantasies that he makes up that are not supported by the evidence, but which he keeps repeating because they bolster his fragile, childish ego.
Did you not read what I posted?
No, because in no way shape or form can crude insults and boorish behavior be construed as "standing up to" a group. The US media is notoriously bad at self-reflection or even questioning the "accepted" narrative. For example, a couple years ago I posted to Facebook an article from the Telegraph about how ISIS is trying to eliminate the "grey zone", the ISIS concept that Muslims can live peacefully in non-Muslim majority countries, that different religions and cultures can exist side by side. A friend commented that the Telegraph must be some sort of radical rag because he had never heard this idea before - never mind that the Torygraph is a solidly boring, right wing well established British newspaper. American centrists and self-appointed "intelligentsia" in the media have this obsession with centrist technocratic government, that the consensus should not be questioned because it is established by people who have a proper command of the facts and knowledge. Socially liberal, economic free market with open, global trade. There is a subcurrent that the "people" can't really be trusted to know what's best for them. In along come His Trumpiness who, in rhetoric at least, throws bombs at that concept of social and economic relations. What better way to prevent any questioning of their assumptions - we need to be involved in wars around the world, that free trade is good, that "the people" can't really be trusted to know what is right, than to equate any opposition to that worldview with the booring, hateful, small minded, morally and intellectual bankrupt "populism" that Trump insists on smearing across his entire sordid administration. Populism = Trump! Anti-Trump = Technocratic administration! Woe to any prospective American Tony Benn or Robert Fisk that will get smeared with the same slimy brush that the Trumpists wallow in.