Saudis blame west for orgies, wife swapping

[skadistic]

I never said that we should give them money. I don't think they need money. I said that we shouldn't treat them like the inbred bastard nephew.

Maybe they should stop acting like the inbred bastard nephew.

 

[Babbler]

..and sharing wives with friends



From World Tribune

What a moron.

 

[Gelion]

Don't be intentionally ignorant. They aren't the same, and you know it.

They are both fundi, ignorant and intolerant. To me dogmas dont mean much if the three abovementioned characteristics are present. No religion should be fanatical or it stops serving its main purpose - educating people peacefully...
I'm a little bit smarter than you give me credit for.


@Mise: Thanks for that input, it was really well said

EDITED:...for spelling purposes.

 

[Trajan12]

They are both fundi, ignorant and intolerant. To me dogmas dont mean much if the three abovementioned characteristics are present. No religion should be fanatical or it stops serving its main purpose - educating people peacefully...
I'm a little bit smarter than you give me credit for.


@Mise: Thanks for that input, it was really well said

EDITED:...for spelling purposes.

I think weve already had this discussion. They are not the same.

 

[Gelion]

I think weve already had this discussion. They are not the same.

Well I was not in it.... if you want to link me to it I could at least read it.
If not you can tell me why not.

 

[Trajan12]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=190833

P.S. Katheryn explains it all.

 

[C~G]

P.S. Katheryn explains it all.

Poll explains it's all.

 

[Gelion]

Poll explains it's all.

Yeah it does


And I repeat again that I was talking about intolerance and fanatism.

 

[theimmortal1]

The ******** crazy Muslims speak out again (note im not pointing out all Muslims, just the ******** crazy ones).

I find it hypocritical that they are calling us out when they treat women like garbage.

 

[Comraddict]

The ******** crazy Muslims speak out again (note im not pointing out all Muslims, just the ******** crazy ones).

I find it hypocritical that they are calling us out when they treat women like garbage.

I find that there is connection between developed countries and respect toward women.

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

..and sharing wives with friends



From World Tribune

Funny how it's "the West" that invented orgies, yet it is Islam that condones a man to be married to 4 women.

 

[Rossiya]

And so some more Muslims are moaning about Westerners again...

 

[warpus]

Maybe you should too. King also agrees with such statement, since he represents everybody, conclusion is simple.

Uhh, right

Known as a modest and pious man, Saudi King Abdullah has been hearing steady reports of a sharp decline in morals in his country.

...

Abdullah regards this phenomenon as part of the corruption of Saudi life fueled by easy oil money that has wrecked traditional values of honesty and work.

Right, so where does it say that he agrees that the west is to blame for all of this? Nowhere. Either you can't read or you're just trolling.

And even if he did agree, so what? That'd be just TWO people saying this, not everyone.

If Bush says something stupid does that mean that every American automatically agrees with him? Obviously not.

 

[warpus]

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=190833

P.S. Katheryn explains it all.

I'm sorry, but using Katheryn as an argument for something actually reduces your credibility rather than reinforcing it

 

[Trajan12]

I'm sorry, but using Katheryn as an argument for something actually reduces your credibility rather than reinforcing it

Do you know how many posts are in that thread, like hell im gonna go through all that! No different than bringing articles.

 

[Gelion]

If Bush says something stupid does that mean that every American automatically agrees with him? Obviously not.

I'm glad we have established that at least.

 

[Xanikk999]

This is kinda of hypocritical of whoevers accusing the west considering the arab tradition of multiple wives.

And yes some still do have multiple wives but its very rare.

 

[BasketCase]

First there was The Uncovered Meat is the Problem.

Then there was this thread about Syria.

Now we see it again with Saudi Arabia.

When somebody gets murdered over here in the States, there are some people who try to blame gun manufacturers as an accessory to the crime (in those cases where the crime was committed with a gun, of course). However, something that holds true in EVERY murder case, no matter what: the forces of Justice always try to arrest and prosecute the person who pulled the trigger.

When a woman gets raped (this is in reference to my first link up top), it is the man who does the raping who is at fault. Yes, it wouldn't have happened if the woman had stayed in her home. But then, it also wouldn't have happened if the MAN had stayed in HIS home.

When innocent Iraqi civilians get blown up or shot (this is in reference to the second link), the fault lies with those who pull the triggers and set off the bombs. It is the insurgents who are responsible for the violence in Iraq, not the U.S.

And when indecent behavior is practiced in Saudi Arabia, it is Saudis, not the West, who are responsible (of course, that's all beside the point of whether or not any given behavior is "bad"--but if there's behavior over there that Saudi mullahs don't like, the fault lies with Saudi citizens who made the choice to practice that behavior).

 

[DYNAMICS]

Saudis should watch closely what their princes do in Europe or America. Three words: booze, music and girls.

They're the last ones on this planet who should lecture us about morality.

Good god, you have made a post that i agree with 100%.

 

[C~G]

When somebody gets murdered over here in the States, there are some people who try to blame gun manufacturers as an accessory to the crime (in those cases where the crime was committed with a gun, of course). However, something that holds true in EVERY murder case, no matter what: the forces of Justice always try to arrest and prosecute the person who pulled the trigger.

The whole idea is to prevent the crime happening in the future so therefore blaming guns to be present might be reasonable however the actual act of murder has only one guilty party.

When a woman gets raped (this is in reference to my first link up top), it is the man who does the raping who is at fault. Yes, it wouldn't have happened if the woman had stayed in her home. But then, it also wouldn't have happened if the MAN had stayed in HIS home.

Again, if we want to prevent women to get raped we can ask both parties to stay home or at least the women who's the victim. The man who is guilty won't listen to our plead anyway so no point of trying to convince him of anything but mkae him pay if actual rape happens.

When innocent Iraqi civilians get blown up or shot (this is in reference to the second link), the fault lies with those who pull the triggers and set off the bombs. It is the insurgents who are responsible for the violence in Iraq, not the U.S.

BS. US caused the cycle of violence to erupt so in larger scene US is responsible for it. For the invidual acts of themselves there's nobody else to blame than those that kill civilians.

Just like if US bombs and kills children whether it's intentional or not, part of the blame goes to terrorist that are hiding in such areas which have children and from the invidual acts the blame goes to US.

And when indecent behavior is practiced in Saudi Arabia, it is Saudis, not the West, who are responsible (of course, that's all beside the point of whether or not any given behavior is "bad"--but if there's behavior over there that Saudi mullahs don't like, the fault lies with Saudi citizens who made the choice to practice that behavior).

We can ask what has caused this behaviour, and therefore we could see it's because of western influence in some cases. However it's reasonable to say that in this case it's rather hypocritical to talk about such things if these kind of acts happen anyway.

It's indeed Saudi problem but society tries to protect itself and wash it's hands from the sins it commits, therefore we always blame someone else.
When it comes Saudi Arabia in this particular case, it tries to put blame to west and it's influence into it's citizens. In case of US it tries to escape the fact that it kills innocent children with the bombs while engaging in military operations and after taking the government of country down it blames the insurgents for the violence it has caused by starting the war.

Ain't it neat to blame someone else, than yourself?

Like Bozo put it, the enemy is me.