Scenario Project: The Persian Empire

[hetairoi22]

Using Google I found the following leaders:

Aretas I
Malichus I
Aretas II (expanded the kingdom)
Obodas I
Rabbel I (ruled for only one year)
Obidas III (got a city named after him, a monument raised in his honour + he was deified)
...

Hope this helps.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Supposedly, the original, Arabic, form of "Aretas" was "IJaritha", which however looks Dutch enough I suspect it to be a misspelling of something more sensible.

 

[The Last Conformist]

Another site claims they were present in the area around Petra already in the 7th C BC, but this seems to rely on an uncertain identification with a group mentioned in the Bible.

 

[Yoda Power]

wow you managed to get me confused TLC, some sources say one thing other sources say another. But what should we believe? Those who wants the Nabateans in please say so and why, otherwise im taking them out.

btw thanks hetairoi, I'll defiently be using that list if I include them

 

[The Last Conformist]

Since when is getting you confused impressive, Yoda?

I'd leave them out. Even if they were present back in the 6th C, they can't been partic'larly important.

 

[Yoda Power]

Originally posted by The Last Conformist
Since when is getting you confused impressive, Yoda?

well never, im confused 24/7 anyway, sometimes it just gets worse

 

[mitsho]

I'd put them in, just because of the fact, that it has more civ away from the nort-western corner! It's crowded there (in comparison).

mfG mitsho

 

[Punkymonkey]

Your indus region seems to be empty with a couple cities real far from the rest, i mean the brown one which i'm guessing is the indians. Maybe you should put in a couple of indian civs to fill up the area but it up to yo because the rest of us are too lazy to actually make this senario

 

[Yoda Power]

mitsho-Well by this time the "northwest corner" was more populatet and had far more cities. But thanks for your input, now its 1-1 for who wants the Nabateans. No one else have oppinions on this?

Punky-Well if you can find some cities for that region I will happily put them in, but I have been unable to find any(I even included a non-historical city called "Indus")

 

[mitsho]

I totally agree with you, Yoda and TLC that they shouldn't be in historically I'd never said something different (I want to say!).

But I don't know about playability?

mfG mitsho

 

[Yoda Power]

Originally posted by mitsho
I totally agree with you, Yoda and TLC that they shouldn't be in historically I'd never said something different (I want to say!).

But I don't know about playability?

mfG mitsho

Well I dont see how they would harm the playability, right now I just want to hear what everybody means about them.

BTW do you wanna be a tester mitsho? You post alot in this thread.

 

[mitsho]

Well, who's a tester right now? I'd like to, I think

(thx) mfG mitsho

 

[Yoda Power]

Originally posted by mitsho
Well, who's a tester right now? I'd like to, I think

(thx) mfG mitsho

Well aaminion and TLC signed up. BTW Louis what about you?

 

[LouLong]

Count me in too. After sunday I should have two weeks with more time...

 

[Yoda Power]

Originally posted by LouLong
Count me in too. After sunday I should have two weeks with more time...

Great, then I just have to make sure that I get it ready for testing within the next two weeks(should be possible).

btw all testers please post or pm me an email that I can send the files to.

 

[Yoda Power]

Ok we better move on to great wonders. Here is my list so far:

Preplaced wonders:

Ishtar Gate
Hanging Gardens
Pyramids
Harbor of Pireaus
Spartan Military Society(yes I stole that from another scenario )
Temple of Arthemis
The Oracle

Wonders you can build:

Persepolis(well untill I find a better name, also you still build the actual city of Persepolis)
The Mausoleum of Mausollos
Great Inscriptions(aka Behistun Inscriptions)
Philips Reforms(macedon only)
Statue of Zeus

I will go into details what the wonders do later, right now I just need all you people brainstorming me some more wonders

 

[The Last Conformist]

The great palace at Persepolis, started by Darius the Great and finished by Xerxes, was in old Persian known as Tachara, or "Winter Palace". That could perhaps be a wonder name? There was also the royal Treasury, which eventually accumulated so much riches that the Macedonians' looting thereof, which sent the wealth back into circulation, is supposed to've started an economic boom all of itself.

Possible effects for the Palace could be happiness, Veteran units (representing royal guards), production (royal workshops), putting a culture-producing improvement in every city (representing how Darius' reforms made the Empire more integrated).

May I suggest the Pyramids not to have their traditional effect? I don't like the picture of the Persian army seizing Egypt, and suddenly people start to have alot more babies in Arachosia.

 

[Yoda Power]

Originally posted by The Last Conformist
The great palace at Persepolis, started by Darius the Great and finished by Xerxes, was in old Persian known as Tachara, or "Winter Palace". That could perhaps be a wonder name? There was also the royal Treasury, which eventually accumulated so much riches that the Macedonians' looting thereof, which sent the wealth back into circulation, is supposed to've started an economic boom all of itself.

Possible effects for the Palace could be happiness, Veteran units (representing royal guards), production (royal workshops), putting a culture-producing improvement in every city (representing how Darius' reforms made the Empire more integrated).

May I suggest the Pyramids not to have their traditional effect? I don't like the picture of the Persian army seizing Egypt, and suddenly people start to have alot more babies in Arachosia.

Thanks for the better name. I think I will make Royal Treasury another wonder

And dont worry most of the wonders wont have their traditional effect(I never understod why Pyramids should make more granaries anyway).

 

[The Last Conformist]

I've always assumed the Pyramids' effect in CivII and CivIII was a nod to the medieval legends that the Pyramids were the granaries Joseph had built in preparation for the seven lean years.

On further reading, I see Xerxes also built a second, even larger, palace at Persepolis called Hadish, which boringly simply means "Dwelling".

 

[Yoda Power]

Originally posted by The Last Conformist
On further reading, I see Xerxes also built a second, even larger, palace at Persepolis called Hadish, which boringly simply means "Dwelling".

I could make a whole line of wonders for Persepolis, not very good ones maybe, but cheap and many. Hmm, I think im gonna do that...