Screenshot analysis!

[BttLsht]

Or the model was a place holder from the Greco-Roman set.

 

[Krajzen]

I'm wondering if there will be any variations in modern units besides skin color.

It would be cool if different ethnic groups had different tank models, infantry uniforms, special forces, planes etc.

I'd especially adore some imaginative Precolombian hypotethical unit models.

 

[King Jason]

Everest up top at 1:14? Some other natural wonder? Regular mountain that just looks big?

Again, nice catch.

Here's possibly another shot, although it's on a different map.

Spoiler :

Judging by the height in that particular shot, there's no way that mountain only occupies one tile. Further, in the shot you mention, it's the only pict of a mountain we've seen that actually has what appears to be a glacial formation running down it. Most mountains are snow-capped. This has snow/ice extending all the way to it's base and seems to be much higher than other mountains.

The two different shots combined lead me to believe that Everest is certainly in the game.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

Yikes! I can already foresee that this is going to be a tough eureka for me to unlock in most games.

I tend to gravitate toward a passive playstyle, so declaring war, even against someone who deserves it, is not something that comes naturally to me. This eureka will really push me out of my comfort zone!

I believe that ou can get eureka boosts without having to be researching said tech/civic.

So you could very easily get Nationalism' boost in Ancient Era

Although I think Casus Belli is likely to kick in mid-late game.

 

[SupremacyKing2]

So you could very easily get Nationalism' boost in Ancient Era

Although I think Casus Belli is likely to kick in mid-late game.

I agree. The devs have talked about how warmongering will evolve during the game from totally accepted in the beginning to frowned upon later in the game. So my guess is that casus belli is something that will kick in mid-late game. Otherwise, players could get the eureka for nationalism way too soon.

 

[Zaarin]

Again, nice catch.

Here's possibly another shot, although it's on a different map.

Spoiler :

Judging by the height in that particular shot, there's no way that mountain only occupies one tile. Further, in the shot you mention, it's the only pict of a mountain we've seen that actually has what appears to be a glacial formation running down it. Most mountains are snow-capped. This has snow/ice extending all the way to it's base and seems to be much higher than other mountains.

The two different shots combined lead me to believe that Everest is certainly in the game.

Also, Googling "Mt. Everest" shows the shape of the peak to be very similar to Everest (albeit, Everest's peak is less recognizable IMO than some other mountains--like Rainier, Denali, Fuji, Kilimanjaro, or the Matterhorn).

 

[qadams]

As an aside, I've never understood why Mt. Everest has not been used as a natural wonder in any previous version of Civ. I mean, the highest point on the planet, how much more wondrous can you get?

 

[Magil]

Natural wonders were not even a thing until Civ V. It hasn't exactly had a lot of time to pick up traction. Unless it was in one of the spin-off games (I haven't played Civ:Rev, for example).

 

[Haig]

Do you think civics or goverments could give new casus bellis, example:
Fascism - Gain the "lebensraum" casus belli.
Democracy - Military interventiion casus belli

etc

 

[AriochIV]

Mt. Everest was in Civ V prior to release, but they removed it for some reason.

 

[Cerilis]

Looks like they replaced it with Grand Mesa

 

[master__jj]

Do you think civics or goverments could give new casus bellis, example:
Fascism - Gain the "lebensraum" casus belli.
Democracy - Military interventiion casus belli

etc

I don't think other nations will think looking for "lebensraum" is a justified casus belli

 

[Zaarin]

Mt. Everest was in Civ V prior to release, but they removed it for some reason.

I wonder if they cut it for religious reasons, since several religions (at least Hinduism and Buddhism--probably others) consider it sacred? But if that's the case, what's changed for including it now? And, of course, most prominent mountains are or have been considered sacred by someone...

 

[SammyKhalifa]

I wonder if they cut it for religious reasons, since several religions (at least Hinduism and Buddhism--probably others) consider it sacred? But if that's the case, what's changed for including it now? And, of course, most prominent mountains are or have been considered sacred by someone...

Nah, plenty of "sacred" mountains are in the Nat. Wonder list after all. Heck, most are in directly because of their religious meaning.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I wonder if they cut it for religious reasons, since several religions (at least Hinduism and Buddhism--probably others) consider it sacred? But if that's the case, what's changed for including it now? And, of course, most prominent mountains are or have been considered sacred by someone...

I doubt that is the reason. There are several holy mountains introduced in G&K.

I suspect it was 4 or so tiles and that concentrated too many natural wonder tiles in one spot.

 

[King Jason]

Judging by the look of it in civ5 and (possibly) in civ6, it seems to require at least 3 tiles. So it was either balance reasons (there's only one multi-tiled natural wonder in civ5 and it's only in the ocean) or possibly art reasons. Designing a 3+ tile feature may not have gone well at the time. The reef by comparison isn't complicated and all of the other wonders have unique art. Everest would have had to have a "tile" that consists of 3 tiles as one unit; Could have proved an unnecessary challenge.

(I doubt that screencap would have been the finished product)

 

[Morgawr]

The reef wasn't even a true 2-tiled wonder; rather 2 adjacent single-tile wonders w/ the same name. It gives you happiness twice as you uncover each hex. The devs must have taken a shortcut

 

[Zaarin]

Nah, plenty of "sacred" mountains are in the Nat. Wonder list after all. Heck, most are in directly because of their religious meaning.

True, but what I was wondering specifically was if the Buddhists, Hindus, or whoever else considers Everest sacred objected to its inclusion. Or objected to its being called "Everest"--though I suppose changing its name to Chomalungma would have been easier than cutting it if that were the case. Speaking of sacred mountains, I'd love to see Mt. Ararat as a natural wonder--but without Armenia I suppose that seems unlikely.

Judging by the look of it in civ5 and (possibly) in civ6, it seems to require at least 3 tiles. So it was either balance reasons (there's only one multi-tiled natural wonder in civ5 and it's only in the ocean) or possibly art reasons. Designing a 3+ tile feature may not have gone well at the time. The reef by comparison isn't complicated and all of the other wonders have unique art. Everest would have had to have a "tile" that consists of 3 tiles as one unit; Could have proved an unnecessary challenge.

(I doubt that screencap would have been the finished product)

Wasn't Lake Victoria multiple tiles? At any rate, multi-tile natural wonders seem more common in Civ6: we know of Crater Lake, we may surmise Mt. Everest, and one would assume Pantanal would also be more than one tile.

 

[King Jason]

Wasn't Lake Victoria multiple tiles? At any rate, multi-tile natural wonders seem more common in Civ6: we know of Crater Lake, we may surmise Mt. Everest, and one would assume Pantanal would also be more than one tile.

Victoria was 1 tile. Crater Lake is also 1 tile.

 

[m15a]

Wasn't Lake Victoria multiple tiles?

Nope. Playing a game with it now.