SGOTM 01 - Realms Beyond

Sorry, I forgot to check the GNP. Feel free to download the save and look at it.

Regarding techs:

Saladin has less tech than us. FDR is about equal with us but I imagine Ghandi will help put him ahead of us.
 
Roster:

Zalson {up}
berserks01
BeefontheBone
Dantski
Snaproll {skipped}
Memphus
EL_OSO {just played}

I reckon you're up, Zal.
 
Indeed, I will play later today. Or something along those lines.
 
Oh, and do we know all our rivals yet? If the game is set for standard, then I think we should... Sal and FDR, Inca, Cathy (poor her), Gandhi and Cyrus. That should be correct, yes?
 
Ok, got it back. Apparently we're in Caste System, and are running veritably no Gp :sad: Unfortunately, I forgot to change it. This was a very medicore turnset for me, and I apologize.

First, some evidences of our situation:

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We're 4th in GNP, but leading in every other category. But... but... why?

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Ah, Ok, that explains it. We're losing the most cash cause of civics, cities... the normal stuff (after we got Printing Press, we increased to deficit of -3 at 60%, woohoo!)

Well, I didn't resolve to improve this, in fact I was kind of wierded out by our relative lack of city specialization. This is a weaker point my games that I'm trying to prove. We have pretty much ONLY commerce cities, and thusly cannot use Caste System Well. I recommend an immediate switch to slavery or something else, to save $.

So I started the turn, and noticed the failure to use Caste System, and then my desire to be an idiot and not address it :crazyeye: like I said, this isn't my best set of turns.

We're a ... little ways behind in tech, as evidenced by these two screenies:

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These are to be expected. Rather soon, I feel, we should go and pay a visit to the Capac. I feel that we should thusly beline:

Education>Gunpowder>Chemistry (Or Rifling, this would probably be better)>Astronomy ( I already started astro before switching to Education :smoke:)

So, in the meantime, we should probably switch to theocracy or something like that, to build up a force of catapuls which we will use to take out Huyana.

Notice, please that I am not mentioning Cyrus. I really don't think he's a viable opponent because he has two cities on the other side of the landmass, each war drops us -2 with our perma-friend Gandhi (who we should try to PA with eventually), and because of this little piece of weed.

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This has other consequences (I did gift the city)... we can't get it back (coz the AI will only give you a city if you have crushed it militarily) and it'll be an Indian foothold in our lands. Once we sign the PA, though, I think we could head back and clean up Cyrus. I'm sorry, it was stupid.

The remainder of my turnset was me playing poorly and correcting some other mistakes (like us building longbows in cities without barracks), and building the currently inappropriate Theaters in cities w/o happiness problems. I apologize... I should have built military to strengthen our base, Macemen to upgrade to CRX rifles... argh.

I'd like us to try and develop one city into a GP machine... currently, If we were able to take ... Pasargadae? Persepolis? it would be awesome... but I am really not focused enough.

We're gonna need to hit the Capac all at once, with an overkill blow. Then, we can Island Hop down and hopefully wield our military tech advantage over Saladin and FDR.

Oh, there's also an island down south, for settling. I has furs, which I forgot to take a shot of:

RGSGOTM1-NewLand.JPG


http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm1/Realms_Beyond_SG001_AD1220_01.Civ4SavedGame

Beef, you're up, in berserks absence. Please, make good on my :smoke:
 
Guys... d'you want to post in the spoiler thread? We certainly qualify, but only up until the turn when we met Sala and FDR? Let me know, and then I'll put something up there. I'll, of course, submit the post here first.
 
Beef? Have you picked this up yet?

If not I can play tomorrow afternoon, busy today
 
Please consider this an "I'm back" post :)

Been keeping up with the posts. Looks like we're doing excellent. Zalson, we matched the criterias for the spoiler thread, you should post up til the point we made contact with saladin and fdr.

I'll pick up my turns when my turn comes around next.

Thanks.
 
Great, great. I'll get on that; expect it later tonight. Although it really, really sucks that Team One already finished. However, we've got two hundred years to conquer the Inca, the Arabians and the Americans. Astronomy, here we come. Please convert to full military programming.

Berserks, if you and Dantski want to coordinate, I wouldn't have a problem with you playing. It'd give Beef at least some time to get his thoughts in order.
 
That's fine. I'll wait til the next round to pick up my turns.
 
Danstki, take it. Get us a significant military force and prep us to take out the Capac.
 
Sorry, forgot all about this - I've been feeling really crappy lately. I'm also going home for the weekend for my sister's birthday so I probably won't get chance to play until next week - best if you skip me altogether for this round.
 
Well I loaded it up and didn't even play one turn because 'something' came up.

Why oh why are we building Forbidden Palace in Moscow? That doesn't seem to make much sense considering we plan to take out Huayna soon, then FDR and Saladin after.

I'll hopefully get back to this later today, if you can find much justification behind building it in Moscow, besides the relatively minor short term economic benefit, then I won't cancel the build.
 
Looks good here team Realms Beyond :goodjob:

Nobody mentioned it, but if you look at that picture of Vilacas (that Incan tundra city). It has no cultural expansion, BUT has 25% defense. I believe this indicates that HC has Chichen Itza. Good Luck! Now back to Epic 4 for me.

-Atlas
 
Duh, we were building it in Moscow... because... because.

Wow, too much school lately. I need to get back to playing Civ. Please cancel it and, er, get rid of it, or something. Whatever.

We need military more. We gotta beat the Team One! Well, not really. But I'm sure we'd all like to.
 
Argh, I'll be delayed till tomorrow now, so if someone else wants to pick it up its fine. All I did in the brief time I had it was take a look at Incan lands and some of our cities.
 
Zalson said:
Duh, we were building it in Moscow... because... because.

Because maybe old C3:Conquest habits are hard to break. I believe the FP was most optimal in C3:Conquests in your second most productive city when the whole corruption model was revamped.


I will be available to play a turn set tomorrow night but on Saturday and Sunday it will be difficult so you may end up having to skip me as well.
 
Well a short report for 2 reasons, one is because theres no screenshots!

Turn 0

Cancel Forbidden Palace in Moscow, start a catapult instead



Turn 1

Caravel eats up a Barb galley


Turn 2

Incan Caravel destroys one of our scouts in Incan waters. They have 3-5 ships in Cuzco sitting there currently. No Galleons though.



Turn 3

Another Incan ship appears near our southern Caravel, it is hurt though so we should win if it attacks.



Turn 5

Caravel defeats Incan Caravel

Saladin asks for CoL for free, I see no reason to aid him so I decline. We are his worst enemy.

Gandhi completes Versailles


In tech, we can't grab Rifling after Gunpowder, since we'll need Banking and Replaceable Parts first.

I ferried back half our army from Persian lands, they are being sent to a hill in our territory to the NE.

We are going to be waiting a fair old time for an attack, we'll need to grab Astronomy (or trade for it) to attack their homeland and by then, our current army will probably need upgrading.

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm1/Realms_Beyond_SG001_AD1250_01.Civ4SavedGame

Now to the 2nd reason the report is short.

I only played 5 turns because Civ has got really boring and unsatisfying lately. I just can't muster any enthusiasm for it at the moment, so I think it best if you omit me from the roster while I take a break from it. Sorry about this guys.

I'll still check around.
 
Can I refuse to accept a resignation? Have I that power?

Well, if you really feel the need to go, no one can stop you :sad: hopefully, Civ will become fun for you again.

Snap's up. When is he back? Anyone who can take this (that's not me), should do it.
 
If Memphus doesn't grab it sometime today, I will grab it tomorrow morning.
 
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