SGOTM 05 - Mac Team
- Thread starter AlanH
- Start date
Welnic
Emperor
- Joined
- Jun 19, 2006
- Messages
- 1,057
Finished Civil Service, got Metal Casting during anarchy for the switch to Bureaucracy, started on Machinery. Started a new city filling in a hole and picking up the bananas. Beshbalik made a workboat for Kurashan, it is heading there. We should try to get Karakoram to grow to its limits, it has a lot of nice tiles it could be working. Getting our cities bigger would also help on the costs for our units. Karakoram is building a Jewish Monastery, if it made a couple of missionaries that would help with border popping.
Save:
http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm5/Mac_Team_SG005_AD1454_01.Civ4SavedGame
Spoiler :
Save:
http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm5/Mac_Team_SG005_AD1454_01.Civ4SavedGame
dr_s
Prince
- Joined
- Dec 27, 2006
- Messages
- 539
What's the next tech? I might go feudalism -> guilds for the military value. Suggestions?
We can get peace with India for Civil Service. Should we?
Alex has a city on the little island to our west, and its borders have popped. That means we can get to Toku's city there. Should we?
We can get peace with India for Civil Service. Should we?
Alex has a city on the little island to our west, and its borders have popped. That means we can get to Toku's city there. Should we?
dojoboy
Tsalagi
Maybe we can try Domination through accumulating vassals. ??? We need Feudalism to begin this. If we try, we need to whittle the AIs down to 2-3 cities. Saladin should be our first target and soon.
Welnic
Emperor
- Joined
- Jun 19, 2006
- Messages
- 1,057
We would also need to start playing Warlords once we researched Feudalism.
I think we should tech towards Caravels. We really need something better for defense than the galleys. I forgot to mention that Toku has a caravel roaming around S-SW of our island, the galley below Beshbalik should be ready to run for cover.
I think we should tech towards Caravels. We really need something better for defense than the galleys. I forgot to mention that Toku has a caravel roaming around S-SW of our island, the galley below Beshbalik should be ready to run for cover.
Well, we just got Optics, so we should be able to build Caravels now.
Guilds sounds good to me - we also need it before we get Banking.
I think trading around Civil Service to anyone who will take is smart. China already has it, so he can trade it if we don't. So let's trade it to everyone and his brother, taking whatever they'll offer.
Guilds sounds good to me - we also need it before we get Banking.
I think trading around Civil Service to anyone who will take is smart. China already has it, so he can trade it if we don't. So let's trade it to everyone and his brother, taking whatever they'll offer.
dr_s
Prince
- Joined
- Dec 27, 2006
- Messages
- 539
We can't trade CS, nobody who doesn't have it will trade with us, except Asoka, and the only thing we can get for it is peace. The question is: do we want that?
Good point about the caravels.
We also need more workers. Is there anything we don't need more of?
Good point about the caravels.
We also need more workers. Is there anything we don't need more of?
One thing at a time, I guess 
Workers before Military, as long as we have enough troops to defend the workers and cities.
Workers before Military, as long as we have enough troops to defend the workers and cities.
dr_s
Prince
- Joined
- Dec 27, 2006
- Messages
- 539
Played my set. Save here.
First the bad news. We lost the sugar island to our east. Near the end of my turnset a Spanish galleon showed up. I whipped a settler in Karakorum (sorry Welnic, didn't see a choice!), which would have saved it for us, but before the settler could get there, Alex's culture showed up there. The settler is near the "Clam City" sign on our island, so we could found a city there. That city could work the clams and would also give us a channel across our island, so I think it would be worth it. The galleon is now on the eastern end of our island.
Beyond that, not too much happened. I sent the existing workboat up to Ning-hsia, and switched its build to a courthouse. The courthouse could be whipped now, but I'm not sure it's worth it. We should probably let that city grow. We still need to build one more workboat somewhere.
Two new workers completed, and I started a third.
Per Welnic's suggestion, I picked optics after machinery finished, so we could build caravels. I used one of our existing galleys to explore to the east a bit, so Toku's cities there on on the map. One had longbow/samurai/cat, the other two longbows and a worker.
Autolog:
First the bad news. We lost the sugar island to our east. Near the end of my turnset a Spanish galleon showed up. I whipped a settler in Karakorum (sorry Welnic, didn't see a choice!), which would have saved it for us, but before the settler could get there, Alex's culture showed up there. The settler is near the "Clam City" sign on our island, so we could found a city there. That city could work the clams and would also give us a channel across our island, so I think it would be worth it. The galleon is now on the eastern end of our island.
Beyond that, not too much happened. I sent the existing workboat up to Ning-hsia, and switched its build to a courthouse. The courthouse could be whipped now, but I'm not sure it's worth it. We should probably let that city grow. We still need to build one more workboat somewhere.
Two new workers completed, and I started a third.
Per Welnic's suggestion, I picked optics after machinery finished, so we could build caravels. I used one of our existing galleys to explore to the east a bit, so Toku's cities there on on the map. One had longbow/samurai/cat, the other two longbows and a worker.
Autolog:
Spoiler :
I will try to play in a few hours.
I'll found the 'clam city', finish the third worker, and continue with Optics.
I'll look into whipping the courthouse - one of my bad habits in SP is whipping too much, preventing my cities from growing. It's a bad habit
Anything I'm missing?
I'll found the 'clam city', finish the third worker, and continue with Optics.
I'll look into whipping the courthouse - one of my bad habits in SP is whipping too much, preventing my cities from growing. It's a bad habit
Anything I'm missing?
OKay, not much happened.
I didn't make peace with Asoke (he wanted CS), but I think that was a mistake. He's now attacking our compatriot stronghold in Persepolis. This is the last Barbarian city! Luckily I chose to knock out Feudalism (3 turns) so it's got Longbows defending.... Next player should sue for peace with Asoka, if at all possible.
Beshbalik will be able to grow after it completes the worker. I interrupted the worker for a workboat for New Sarai (clamtown).
We're working on Paper. I couldn't decide between that and Guilds (for Knights). But it seems like we've got some major economic woes, so I thought we might leave the military stuff for a bit.
Save is attached...
I didn't make peace with Asoke (he wanted CS), but I think that was a mistake. He's now attacking our compatriot stronghold in Persepolis. This is the last Barbarian city! Luckily I chose to knock out Feudalism (3 turns) so it's got Longbows defending.... Next player should sue for peace with Asoka, if at all possible.
Beshbalik will be able to grow after it completes the worker. I interrupted the worker for a workboat for New Sarai (clamtown).
We're working on Paper. I couldn't decide between that and Guilds (for Knights). But it seems like we've got some major economic woes, so I thought we might leave the military stuff for a bit.
Save is attached...
Spoiler log :
Dojoboy? 
dojoboy
Tsalagi
Dojoboy?
Holy cow! Sorry. I'm on it. Stand by.
dojoboy
Tsalagi
1) 1550 AD - Increased research;
2) 1553 AD - Besh. b. worker, set to cat;
3) 1556 AD - zzz
4) 1559 AD - zzz
5) 1562 AD - Kara. b. harbor, set to Maceman;
6) 1565 AD - zzz; IBT - Japanese caravel sinks our eastern galley; Japanese capture Mauryan;
7) 1568 AD - landed forces by Izumo (garrisoned by 1 longbowman, but a samurai & cat is outside of the city);
8) 1571 AD - zzz
9) 1574 AD - learn Paper, set to Guilds; Besh., b. cat, set to granary; Kufah b. Caravel, set to Maceman; learned Drama from Barbs; IBT - Tokugawa attacks us w/ cat & samurai, but loses both battles;
10) 1577 AD - Capture Izumo!
Now garrisoned by a Keshik & axeman;
Recap: Asoka will not accept a peace deal unless we surrender Paper & wm; no other AI either needs Paper or is willing to trade trech(s) for it ; We should alternate production to work on marketplaces & courthouses between military builds;
save
2) 1553 AD - Besh. b. worker, set to cat;
3) 1556 AD - zzz
4) 1559 AD - zzz
5) 1562 AD - Kara. b. harbor, set to Maceman;
6) 1565 AD - zzz; IBT - Japanese caravel sinks our eastern galley; Japanese capture Mauryan;
7) 1568 AD - landed forces by Izumo (garrisoned by 1 longbowman, but a samurai & cat is outside of the city);
8) 1571 AD - zzz
9) 1574 AD - learn Paper, set to Guilds; Besh., b. cat, set to granary; Kufah b. Caravel, set to Maceman; learned Drama from Barbs; IBT - Tokugawa attacks us w/ cat & samurai, but loses both battles;
10) 1577 AD - Capture Izumo!
Now garrisoned by a Keshik & axeman;
Recap: Asoka will not accept a peace deal unless we surrender Paper & wm; no other AI either needs Paper or is willing to trade trech(s) for it
; We should alternate production to work on marketplaces & courthouses between military builds; save
Spoiler :
dojoboy
Tsalagi
Order of Play:
dr_s - warming up
peter grimes
dojoboy - just finished
a_man - skip
willpax - UP
Welnic - on deck
dr_s - warming up
peter grimes
dojoboy - just finished
a_man - skip
willpax - UP
Welnic - on deck
dojoboy
Tsalagi
Next!
Similar threads
