Mastiff_of_Ar
In his Element
And don't forget on the next to last turn to up the culture slider to make everyone happy!
Good Luck, Piko!
Good Luck, Piko!
SGOTM 05 - Misfits
- Thread starter AlanH
- Start date
ok then, anyone wanna know what happened? scared?
it started ok i guess? all to cnwjr's plan, well calculated.
Here is your Session Turn Log from 2042 AD to 2050 AD:
Turn 652, 2042 AD: Sidon celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 652, 2042 AD: Cyrus has completed SS Thrusters!
Turn 653, 2043 AD: Sidon celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 653, 2043 AD: Guglielmo Marconi has been born in Tyre!
Turn 653, 2043 AD: You have discovered Fusion!
Turn 654, 2044 AD: Asoka has completed SDI!
Turn 654, 2044 AD: You have discovered Robotics!
Turn 655, 2045 AD: You have discovered Genetics!
Turn 656, 2046 AD: You have discovered Ecology!
Turn 657, 2047 AD: You have discovered Composites!
Turn 658, 2048 AD: Athens celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 659, 2049 AD: Athens celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 659, 2049 AD: The borders of Athens have expanded!
Turn 659, 2049 AD: The borders of Knossos have expanded!
well there you go.. the turn log! sweet, that all ya's need to see i hope?
it started ok i guess? all to cnwjr's plan, well calculated.
Here is your Session Turn Log from 2042 AD to 2050 AD:
Turn 652, 2042 AD: Sidon celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 652, 2042 AD: Cyrus has completed SS Thrusters!
Turn 653, 2043 AD: Sidon celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 653, 2043 AD: Guglielmo Marconi has been born in Tyre!
Turn 653, 2043 AD: You have discovered Fusion!
Turn 654, 2044 AD: Asoka has completed SDI!
Turn 654, 2044 AD: You have discovered Robotics!
Turn 655, 2045 AD: You have discovered Genetics!
Turn 656, 2046 AD: You have discovered Ecology!
Turn 657, 2047 AD: You have discovered Composites!
Turn 658, 2048 AD: Athens celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 659, 2049 AD: Athens celebrates "We Love the President Day"!!!
Turn 659, 2049 AD: The borders of Athens have expanded!
Turn 659, 2049 AD: The borders of Knossos have expanded!
well there you go.. the turn log! sweet, that all ya's need to see i hope?
hrmmm i uploaded but its not visible? note the turn log i just showed... can't see it in progress page? *scratches head* do i just upload again?
ok i emailed it in to em instead of uploading again, i've got a copy of the submission success page saved anyhow. I guess we just have to wait to find out if we get the spoon or not?
ok i emailed it in to em instead of uploading again, i've got a copy of the submission success page saved anyhow. I guess we just have to wait to find out if we get the spoon or not?
Mastiff_of_Ar
In his Element
Did we win?! Post a screenshot!
cnwjr
Warlord
Piko, you will have to explicitly give us the final details. The final save is NOT available and won't be until every team has finished.
I also want to know for a fact that we are done so I can look at the other team's results.
I also want to know for a fact that we are done so I can look at the other team's results.
Mastiff_of_Ar
In his Element
Can he post the final save in here?
Piko has the link, as he emailed me. However, I'll post it for you. It's a Time victory for the Barbarian Team 
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http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm5/Misfits_SG005_AD2050_01.Civ4SavedGame
Well done, Guys
.http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/civ4sgotm5/Misfits_SG005_AD2050_01.Civ4SavedGame
Well done, Guys
Mastiff_of_Ar
In his Element
Woo hoo! Thanks Alan!
Balbes
Instigator
Congratulations on your victory! I think you're pretty safe from the spoon - one of the teams who actually lost should be getting it. Instead you deserve the Spectators' Special Award (ahem, if there was one). You made a very focused effort both for the deadline and the one victory condition that was still realistically available - and succeeded. All in all, you've hung in there. I hope to see you again in a future SGOTM.
ngraner42
Ultrarunner
I enjoyed watching your nail biting finish. Congratulations.
LOL aww gee, i go have a nap and....
oh yer, thats right....
quick rundown from me perhaps?
2043 temujin 3952 Barb 1754 total 5707
2045 temujin 4047 Barb 1833 total 5880 Asoka 6080
2046 temujin 4092 Barb 1873 total 5965 Asoka 6080
2046 population hits 50 000 000....50 013 000 to be exact
2047 temujin/barb take the lead
2049 population hits 55 458 000
2050 temujin 4242, takes the time victory final score of 5956
hehehe sorry guys, i thought it was amusing
edit: cnwjr, i thought it made it clear i had completed when i said "now just wait to see if we get the spoon or not" i wasnt that slack hehehe
oh yer, thats right....
quick rundown from me perhaps?
2043 temujin 3952 Barb 1754 total 5707
2045 temujin 4047 Barb 1833 total 5880 Asoka 6080
2046 temujin 4092 Barb 1873 total 5965 Asoka 6080
2046 population hits 50 000 000....50 013 000 to be exact
2047 temujin/barb take the lead
2049 population hits 55 458 000
2050 temujin 4242, takes the time victory final score of 5956
hehehe sorry guys, i thought it was amusing
edit: cnwjr, i thought it made it clear i had completed when i said "now just wait to see if we get the spoon or not"
i wasnt that slack heheheIt's a Time victory for the Barbarian Team
Well done, Guys
We win?
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![[party]](/images/smilies/partytime.gif "Party [party]")
Good job guys
Now, time to go to the other threads and find out what we did right and wrong. However, this is my list right now:
Right:
- Go warmongering
- Managing to win at all
- Attempt to go after Qin with Sal still alive
- Let Asoka run away with the game in the industrial era
maro: rather spot on there, i always regretted not just hitting sal first, being hit by him first really put us on the back foot, we werent the only ones with this problem, but we should have lined saladin up immediately. We also didnt focus enough on strengthening our economy, it was weak all game.
Jimmy Thunder
King
Well done guys. An exciting finish. So did you have to attack Asoka or not? I thought he was over 6000 points?
Was tech worth twice as much as expected since your score was combined with the barbs and you shared techs?
Was tech worth twice as much as expected since your score was combined with the barbs and you shared techs?
Congratulations to the win!
I am of the opinion that the best strategy was to go for Qin before Sal, although this opinion is disputed. Sending an early pillage tripplet (axe, spear, chariot) would have been enough to keep Saladin at bay until at least 500 AD, at which time Qin would be defeated. We (Murky Waters) did not fully manage this strategy, and decided to send a larger stack to kill Sal earlier than what was actually necessary.
I am of the opinion that the best strategy was to go for Qin before Sal, although this opinion is disputed. Sending an early pillage tripplet (axe, spear, chariot) would have been enough to keep Saladin at bay until at least 500 AD, at which time Qin would be defeated. We (Murky Waters) did not fully manage this strategy, and decided to send a larger stack to kill Sal earlier than what was actually necessary.
cnwjr
Warlord
I made a (very) quick survey of the other teams last night. So far, I see one team that has lost, a few that are still playing, and the rest are conquest/domination wins.
We did way too much infrastructure building and not enough combat in the very early game. We were badly hurt by Sal early at a time when we could have taken him out. I'm going to go back and do a very thorough analysis of the top three teams to see where we can improve. Mostly, it looks like whip!, whip!, whip! and kill, kill, kill. I can live with that. A big difference was how the barbs did things. Some teams actually had the barbs take out cities in the early game. At least one revealed the short way via Greece to the mainland. Our barbs were good for research help and not really much else. It might be because we made peace too early with some folks. It might be other things. That's some of what I plan on looking at.
In any case, it was fun and I'm glad we scraped out a win at the very end, even though it was a near thing.
We did way too much infrastructure building and not enough combat in the very early game. We were badly hurt by Sal early at a time when we could have taken him out. I'm going to go back and do a very thorough analysis of the top three teams to see where we can improve. Mostly, it looks like whip!, whip!, whip! and kill, kill, kill.
I can live with that. A big difference was how the barbs did things. Some teams actually had the barbs take out cities in the early game. At least one revealed the short way via Greece to the mainland. Our barbs were good for research help and not really much else. It might be because we made peace too early with some folks. It might be other things. That's some of what I plan on looking at.In any case, it was fun and I'm glad we scraped out a win at the very end, even though it was a near thing.
cnwjr
Warlord
For those who might be interested, I did a test to see the results of the attack on Calcutta.
I landed a gunship, armor and infantry in each of the three blocking tiles. I put a gunship, both sams, a few arty, and a couple of infantry in the next tile. The rest in the final tile. Asoka was able to destroy two of the blocking stacks and wound the three in the third. He managed to reinforce Calcutta with a modern armor and an arty. The modern armor was slightly wounded in an attack that killed an infantry. He also send a ton of aircraft at every stack (including the empty transports). Those aircraft that couldn't reach enemy troops instead carried out an intensive attack on farms, mines, towns, etc. He had a couple of battleships that attacked and killed a couple of transports, then the battleships retreated into Calcutta. In his first turn, he also took Tianjin. I hadn't bothered to upgrade the units there.
On our attack turn, we used 4 wounded arty to bombard Cal's defenses to 0. Then, about another 10 arty died taking out the modern armor. The remainder of the defenders went down to an arty each as they had been wounded by the previous 10 attacks. We razed Calcutta. Net point gain 55 points. 20 (Calcutta) - 9 (Tianjin) = 11 pop lost. Obviously, for future reference, revolting pop still counts.
His second attack turn (which would have been his final one had it actually been necessary to play) was involved in attacking the remains of our stack (22 units survived) and again carpet bombing the infrastructure.
Edit: Interesting. I did a 2nd test, upgrading the units in Tianjin first. It wasn't attacked at all. I also landed all of the units in a single tile (#5). The bombardment continued, but only a couple of units actually attacked the stack. Only one additional defender in Calcutta (Modern Armor). It was quite easy to take out. I captured it instead of razing it. It held quite easily to the very minor counterattack. I guess there is some critical level of units that the AI refuses to attack. SoD, anyone?
I landed a gunship, armor and infantry in each of the three blocking tiles. I put a gunship, both sams, a few arty, and a couple of infantry in the next tile. The rest in the final tile. Asoka was able to destroy two of the blocking stacks and wound the three in the third. He managed to reinforce Calcutta with a modern armor and an arty. The modern armor was slightly wounded in an attack that killed an infantry. He also send a ton of aircraft at every stack (including the empty transports). Those aircraft that couldn't reach enemy troops instead carried out an intensive attack on farms, mines, towns, etc. He had a couple of battleships that attacked and killed a couple of transports, then the battleships retreated into Calcutta. In his first turn, he also took Tianjin. I hadn't bothered to upgrade the units there.
On our attack turn, we used 4 wounded arty to bombard Cal's defenses to 0. Then, about another 10 arty died taking out the modern armor. The remainder of the defenders went down to an arty each as they had been wounded by the previous 10 attacks. We razed Calcutta. Net point gain 55 points. 20 (Calcutta) - 9 (Tianjin) = 11 pop lost. Obviously, for future reference, revolting pop still counts.
His second attack turn (which would have been his final one had it actually been necessary to play) was involved in attacking the remains of our stack (22 units survived) and again carpet bombing the infrastructure.
Edit: Interesting. I did a 2nd test, upgrading the units in Tianjin first. It wasn't attacked at all. I also landed all of the units in a single tile (#5). The bombardment continued, but only a couple of units actually attacked the stack. Only one additional defender in Calcutta (Modern Armor). It was quite easy to take out. I captured it instead of razing it. It held quite easily to the very minor counterattack. I guess there is some critical level of units that the AI refuses to attack. SoD, anyone?
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