SGOTM 07 - Chokonuts

cubbiesin08 · May 31, 2008

Pacifism is only going to work for us if we declare a religion - we haven't done that yet.

We can also get rid of the trade to Elizabeth where we get whale - we're giving up sheep for it. We can get our own whale now, and we'd rather have the sheep for the health.

Ozbenno · May 31, 2008

cubbiesin08 said:
Pacifism is only going to work for us if we declare a religion - we haven't done that yet.

Forgot about that. We should swap to Free Religion then. Do it when we have Banking as a double swap should still take 1 turn.

Mighty Dwaarf · Jun 1, 2008

cubbiesin08 said:
Pacifism is only going to work for us if we declare a religion - we haven't done that yet.

Good point well made!!

pholkhero · Jun 2, 2008

I can pick this up since I was skipped if that's alright.

looks like i should just finish up the globe. afterwards, any thoughts??

should i just trade guilds, then, as well, and not engineering, too?

after Nationalism, build the Taj straightaway, no, or are we worried about the GAs? Next tech? Banking??

Ozbenno · Jun 3, 2008

Since we have gone down the Nationalism path, we should research Military Tradition, then straight to Communism.

McArine · Jun 3, 2008

Frederick and Asoka are willing to go to war against Alexander, should we exploit this?

We should trade for Music, there are several willing to trade, I guess paper can be released by now, and should we keep our monopoly on astronomy?

I wouldn't build globe right now. There are four turns to Nationalism, those could be spent finishing a workboat(whale) and harbour, then we could go directly to Taj Mahal, after that I'd take Globe(7 turns atm).
We are currently +3 happy and -1 health.

If we keep on employing a lot of scientists I don't think we have to worry too much about GAs

Ozbenno · Jun 3, 2008

If we can bribe Asoka in then we should. Last I was able to load the save, Fred was still miles behind. I also wouldn't be too worried about GAs.

In other good news, my new laptop arrived :goodjob:

In other sucky news, my civ vanilla disk has a crack in it and won't register, so I can't as yet install Civ :mad:

Mighty Dwaarf · Jun 4, 2008

I would leave Globe until we need it. A harbour would be more beneficial at the moment.
I would go for the war if we get Asoka involved I would hold of Fred otherwise he might shark in at the last moment again and steal the real estate.
If we goto war I would leave MT for now and research Sci Meth. We dont necessarily need MT only need our potential PA to have it to sign DP with them.If we tade Nat straight away to Asoka whilst he is at war would he not move towards researching MT himself?? We would then save the turns needed to research it ourselves.

Ozbenno · Jun 4, 2008

Mighty Dwaarf said:
If we tade Nat straight away to Asoka whilst he is at war would he not move towards researching MT himself??

If we can get back into a war with Asoka, then straight to Communism we go but if we can't get him to war Alex I think we need to go MT.

pholkhero · Jun 4, 2008

i think i need a flow chart for this ~ if this and this, do this. if that, do that. if c, do d. Ugh.

playing now and we'll see how i do translating this mish-mash into some consensus

pholkhero · Jun 4, 2008

t0: I swapped the theatre to the harbor, and Asoka will go after Alex for Astro. I do that. I also traded GW for Paper plus gold for Music.
t1: Asoka asked us to join in the fray, and i, of course, do so.
t2: GW completed Angkor Wat.
t3: Church of Nativity is BIDL. Harbor > WB for the whales.
t4: Nat'l > MT (9 turns); WB > Globe Theatre
t5: I netted the whales.
t6: we grew to pop11, and i hired another scientist.
t7: Push Enter.
t8: Asoka wanted us to donate Nat'l to his cause. Doing so gets us up to Friendly with him.
t9: enter.
t10: Globe Theatre > Cho-Ko-Nu ~

and that's it. We've got MT in about 3 turns, and besides units, we're running out of things to build.

Spoiler Here is your Session Turn Log from 375 AD to 600 AD: :

and the save

Ozbenno · Jun 4, 2008

The main point of the mish mash was that if we get into a shared war, we don't need Military Tradition!!! I would swap straight away and only go back if the war ends before our 40 turns. Can anyone remember how many shared war turns we had before (23??)? We've got another 9!

We need to head straight to Communism (Sci Method, Communism), as we should be able to get a PA straight away.

If we're running out of things to build, build research.

Mighty Dwaarf · Jun 5, 2008

I though that we were also looking to build Taj and not Globe yet?? :confused:

I remember us having 18 turns of shared war before.

t0: I swapped the theatre to the harbor, and Asoka will go after Alex for Astro. I do that. I also traded GW for Paper plus gold for Music.
t1: Asoka asked us to join in the fray, and i, of course, do so.

Its good job we only wasted 1 turn before joining this war.

McArine · Jun 5, 2008

My thoughts:
We need to stop trading sheep for whale, now that we got it. Instead we should try to trade for Clam with silver or fur.

Our scout should head for Alexander, to keep watch on the progress of the war. Especially because Athens has disappeared from the map.

As mentioned:
Switch to Taj Mahal, and move scientists to boost production.
Drop MT and head straight for Communism

Mighty Dwaarf · Jun 5, 2008

If its ok I can take next turns tonight or tomorrow morning, after that I am going to be away for about a week. If something big comes up I'll stop but looks like building taj and researching to Communism is the way forward.

pholkhero · Jun 5, 2008

aiee ~ sorry guys ~ i DID have notes, but must've misread the posts ~

Mighty Dwaarf · Jun 6, 2008

played another 10.

Initially changed research to PP as we need this for Sci Meth. Changed build to Taj Mahal and cancelled trades. Traded Liz fur for clams, Asoka Silver for 4gpt and Fred whale for 3gpt.

Liz finished Taj Mahal next turn so we would not have finished it even if started straight away. A Great Engineer was born who was settled.

Our scouts report that Asoka has captured Athens and he has Grenadiers. By end of turnset he was still at war with Alex so by my thinking that is 36 turns now.

We are 4 turns off Sci Meth, and Communism is another 11 turns.

Liz demanded Astro, and Asoka offered a trade for PP. Both were accepted for diplo benefit.

Spoiler :

Ozbenno · Jun 6, 2008

Good work, especially Asoka getting Athens. Did Alex have a 2nd city? We will have our 40 turns when we get Communism. Just keep heading straight there.

McArine · Jun 7, 2008

It appears I'm up, I'll play tomorrow.

Science: Continue towards Communism.
I'm considering building a galleon, to get to know the civs on the other island. Any thoughts?
Taoism has spread to us, so we could also build temple and more interestingly, another monestary.
I think Alexanders last city will fall in my turnset, so I'll try to find another target for Asoka.
I was also thinking of trying to draw some more civs into the war with alex, I want to time it, so they get in on the last turn he is alive, so we get +relations, but they dont have a chance of grabbing the city.

cubbiesin08
pholkhero
Ozbenno
Might Dwaarf - Just finished
McArine - Up
ngraner42 - On deck
terminator3k - MIA
glenmetz - MIA

Ozbenno · Jun 7, 2008

Don't risk getting other civs involved. Its just us and Asoka. If we're at 36 turns, I'd not bother getting another war if he takes Alex down. 4 more turns should do it.

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