SGOTM 11 - ChokoMisfits
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JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Hap and Sun
Noted. Now, I have a Pearl Jam concert tonight, but I will play tomorrow evening and report back in.
Noted. Now, I have a Pearl Jam concert tonight, but I will play tomorrow evening and report back in.
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Dude, that's when I was born. You're old!
I saw the Buzzcocks in 1992. Awesome show even if it was many years past their prime.
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Okay team, I have my plan and assuming I am not dead tired when I get back from my bro-in-law's concert tonight (he is a drummer), I'll be playing per the turnset
One thing that was not specified. Do you guys want me to play nice with Yara or evil? Other rivals?
If we are thinking of a future dow, being slightly mean now might help Yara dow us later, saving us a dow.
Lemme know!
One thing that was not specified. Do you guys want me to play nice with Yara or evil? Other rivals?
If we are thinking of a future dow, being slightly mean now might help Yara dow us later, saving us a dow.
Lemme know!
ianw1610
King
What can Zara actually demand at the moment? He can't ask for a technology, as we don't have Alphabet. He can't ask us to switch to his favourite Civic, as we don't have Theology. If he demands our spare Corn, we simply say no.
A slight watchout is that Zara has a 10% chance of DoWing from Pleased.
If we meet someone else, take note of whether either the new person or Zara happense to have a Worst Enemy.
Good luck with the turnset, and Alive by Pearl Jam just started playing on my iPod shuffle - perfect timing!!
A slight watchout is that Zara has a 10% chance of DoWing from Pleased.
If we meet someone else, take note of whether either the new person or Zara happense to have a Worst Enemy.
Good luck with the turnset, and Alive by Pearl Jam just started playing on my iPod shuffle - perfect timing!!
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Of Import that we did not discuss. We can sign OB with Yara. Should we?
We should if we want Yara to be building to friendly.
We shouldn't if we want otherwise.
Regardless, I should make this decision NOW before my turnset.
I would tend to think that right now Yara is best used as an ally. He can watch our flank.
Ergo, I would sign.
Thoughts?
We should if we want Yara to be building to friendly.
We shouldn't if we want otherwise.
Regardless, I should make this decision NOW before my turnset.
I would tend to think that right now Yara is best used as an ally. He can watch our flank.
Ergo, I would sign.
Thoughts?
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I am in favor of Open Borders with Zara Yaqob in the current turn. In other words, Open Borders now with Zara Yaqob now before ending the current turn. I would also promote our Warrior (to Combat 1) with a pending promotion immediately before ending the current turn.
From previous comments on the topic of Open Borders with Zara Yaqob, I believe that a majority is in favor of Open Borders now.
Sun Tzu Wu
It depends if you mean actual age or maturity age. Being 47 one is about 30 + years different to the other.
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Yep I saw the Buzzcocks 3 times back in the 70s. Although a lot older the sound was the same last time as well. Also just seen the Stranglers, old but great as well. Guess you can see what my early influences were.
Back to the game. No problem with opening borders with Zara but we should be prepared to close them if he tries to settle behind us. Hopefully he has some land to his East across the sea he could settle instead.
haphazard1
Dancing Bear
OB with Zara may give him TR income with us from Sailing, while we do not get a TR yet. But I think longer term this is still a good idea -- Zara will become friendly over time and will serve as a "safe" trade partner. OB will also allow us to check what is to Zara's east, which could be useful information.
If we do end up fighting him, it will probably be due to border pressure -diplo. Thanks to ianw1610 for the note about 10% DOW chance at pleased -- very important info! We must keep a careful eye on Zara, and not tempt him with uncovered workers or weakly defended cities.
Off topic: about 2000 BC in a personal game, just ran into Monty.
Why does this guy always seem to start close by when I am thinking about peaceful victory conditions? 
If we do end up fighting him, it will probably be due to border pressure -diplo. Thanks to ianw1610 for the note about 10% DOW chance at pleased -- very important info! We must keep a careful eye on Zara, and not tempt him with uncovered workers or weakly defended cities.
Off topic: about 2000 BC in a personal game, just ran into Monty.
Why does this guy always seem to start close by when I am thinking about peaceful victory conditions? ianw1610
King
Weighing up the options, I'd say yes to OB with Zara.
As Mighty Dwaarf is still away on honeymoon, and McArine's computer is broken, it looks like Jericho's turnset will be the last of this rotation, so after this we will return to haphazard1...
As Mighty Dwaarf is still away on honeymoon, and McArine's computer is broken, it looks like Jericho's turnset will be the last of this rotation, so after this we will return to haphazard1...
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Thanks for the feedback!
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Turn 0
Promoted our wounded warrior to C1
OB with Yara
Trade surplus Corn for Cow with Yara (diplo purposes)
Turn 1
Move Warriors that are free towards Yara
Move workers to Prechop
...Interlude...
Turn 7
Monument Whipped
Stonehenge Built somewhere by someone we don't know
Library Whipped, 3 POP lost
Turn 8
StoneWheat starts Granary
See some barbarians, Scary!
Fast Growth in capital, prechopping and pre-mining
Note: Because of open borders with Yara, I made a tactical decision to get the monument out ASAP, as culture discourages settling.
I stopped here because, while we had discussed this if the opportunity occured, it actually hadn't
We have a warrior on Yara's border next to a worker. We can worker-steal. There is an archer nearby that would follow, but our military strength is otherwise equal to yara. There are two barbarian warriors currently spawned on the map
TO steal in 2075 or not to steal, that is the question.
Thoughts? I'm hitting the road for 3 hours so I'll be away, finishing up today or tonight after feedback
Promoted our wounded warrior to C1
OB with Yara
Trade surplus Corn for Cow with Yara (diplo purposes)
Turn 1
Move Warriors that are free towards Yara
Move workers to Prechop
...Interlude...
Turn 7
Monument Whipped
Stonehenge Built somewhere by someone we don't know
Library Whipped, 3 POP lost
Turn 8
StoneWheat starts Granary
See some barbarians, Scary!
Fast Growth in capital, prechopping and pre-mining
Note: Because of open borders with Yara, I made a tactical decision to get the monument out ASAP, as culture discourages settling.
I stopped here because, while we had discussed this if the opportunity occured, it actually hadn't
We have a warrior on Yara's border next to a worker. We can worker-steal. There is an archer nearby that would follow, but our military strength is otherwise equal to yara. There are two barbarian warriors currently spawned on the map
TO steal in 2075 or not to steal, that is the question.
Thoughts? I'm hitting the road for 3 hours so I'll be away, finishing up today or tonight after feedback
ianw1610
King
My view would be NOT to Worker steal from Zara at this point.
The game conditions require that we need to be in possession of 4 specific Resources, and at present we neither possess, nor have identified the location of, any of these 4.
Therefore I'd save our 2 available DoWs until later in the game, in case we need them to obtain 2 or more of those 4 Resources, from overseas...
The game conditions require that we need to be in possession of 4 specific Resources, and at present we neither possess, nor have identified the location of, any of these 4.
Therefore I'd save our 2 available DoWs until later in the game, in case we need them to obtain 2 or more of those 4 Resources, from overseas...
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
agreed ian. The opportunity hath presented itself, so I wanted to pause...continuing to the GS
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Highlights
Warrior survived a barb attack in the open. Yay! Medic Warrior.
Yara is BOXED IN by us. Must know someone beyond the water.
He is so nice he gave us clams! whatta guy!
Zara got buddhism, obviously from a sea route.
Can't grow when we get to 1 turn before 6 pop due to happiness, so I start a settler. We have enough warriors
Saved and exited on the turn before we get the GS. CowWheat borders are popping
We have 5 warriors, a settler with 3 turns build in our capital.
Yara has 1 city, hasnt grown in awhile. So he is building a settler. Save uploaded, more later.
I gotta prep for a bbq!
Here is your Session Turn Log from 2275 BC to 1750 BC:
Turn 74, 2150 BC: Judaism has been founded in a distant land!
Turn 74, 2150 BC: Stonehenge has been built in a far away land!
Turn 75, 2125 BC: The borders of Capital have expanded!
Turn 75, 2125 BC: You have constructed a Library in Capital. Work has now begun on a Granary.
Turn 79, 2025 BC: Zara Yaqob adopts Slavery!
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior (2.00) vs Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) (2.20)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Combat Odds: 32.2%
Turn 80, 2000 BC: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) has defeated Barbarian's Warrior!
Turn 84, 1900 BC: Zara Yaqob converts to Buddhism!
Turn 90, 1750 BC: The borders of OasisWheatCowIn are about to expand.
Warrior survived a barb attack in the open. Yay! Medic Warrior.
Yara is BOXED IN by us. Must know someone beyond the water.
He is so nice he gave us clams! whatta guy!
Zara got buddhism, obviously from a sea route.
Can't grow when we get to 1 turn before 6 pop due to happiness, so I start a settler. We have enough warriors
Saved and exited on the turn before we get the GS. CowWheat borders are popping
We have 5 warriors, a settler with 3 turns build in our capital.
Yara has 1 city, hasnt grown in awhile. So he is building a settler. Save uploaded, more later.
I gotta prep for a bbq!
Here is your Session Turn Log from 2275 BC to 1750 BC:
Turn 74, 2150 BC: Judaism has been founded in a distant land!
Turn 74, 2150 BC: Stonehenge has been built in a far away land!
Turn 75, 2125 BC: The borders of Capital have expanded!
Turn 75, 2125 BC: You have constructed a Library in Capital. Work has now begun on a Granary.
Turn 79, 2025 BC: Zara Yaqob adopts Slavery!
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior (2.00) vs Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) (2.20)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Combat Odds: 32.2%
Turn 80, 2000 BC: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Barbarian's Warrior is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 80, 2000 BC: Gandhi's Sunil Gavaskar (Warrior) has defeated Barbarian's Warrior!
Turn 84, 1900 BC: Zara Yaqob converts to Buddhism!
Turn 90, 1750 BC: The borders of OasisWheatCowIn are about to expand.
haphazard1
Dancing Bear
Interesting that Zara is boxed in, but has contact. I will have to look at the save, see what can be seen. Is there a clear path across the water, or does Zara have a culture bridge we can not match?
Buddhism spreading to Zara is good, hopefully it will spread to us. The more religions the better, at least for now.
If our capital is happy limited, grow to size 6 and then whip the settler. Probably faster than building it turn by turn. I will check once I have time to open the save.
OK, from ianw1610's post it sounds like I will be up. I will look at the save later today and post a plan, aiming to play probably Monday evening. Due to a big push at work I will spend most of Sunday in the office.
Turnset sounds good, JH! I agree on not making a worker steal against Zara. We need to conserve our liimited DOWs.
Buddhism spreading to Zara is good, hopefully it will spread to us. The more religions the better, at least for now.
If our capital is happy limited, grow to size 6 and then whip the settler. Probably faster than building it turn by turn. I will check once I have time to open the save.
OK, from ianw1610's post it sounds like I will be up. I will look at the save later today and post a plan, aiming to play probably Monday evening. Due to a big push at work I will spend most of Sunday in the office.
Turnset sounds good, JH! I agree on not making a worker steal against Zara. We need to conserve our liimited DOWs.
JerichoHill
Bedrock of Knowledge
Hap,
It's a water path. I think he got a fishing boat out to across the other side. I was not able to see a civ on the other side with our warrior
It's a water path. I think he got a fishing boat out to across the other side. I was not able to see a civ on the other side with our warrior
ianw1610
King
Only 6 more GPPs to get our Scientist, so just the 1 Science specialist needed this turn, right?
I note from the Score graph on the progress page that we have the lowest score of any team at this stage... presumably the other teams have a 3rd City by now, or maybe they did not switch to 0% research and have more Techs...
Do we want to aim for the Oracle? If so, we will need to push our Research in that direction...
I note from the Score graph on the progress page that we have the lowest score of any team at this stage... presumably the other teams have a 3rd City by now, or maybe they did not switch to 0% research and have more Techs...
Do we want to aim for the Oracle? If so, we will need to push our Research in that direction...
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