SGOTM 19 - Also Sprach Sid
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I'm going to take a few minutes to figure out the micro in the north.
I think the choices will be:
(1) Road Gold in two turns. Improve Cow in three.
(2) Road Gold in three turns. Improve Cow in two.
(3) Road Gold in two turns. Improve Cow in two. City #5 unconnected.
If I can't figure out a better way to do it, do you have a preference?
I'd favor (1). Or maybe (3).
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Good news:
I think the choices will be:
(1) Road Gold in two turns. Improve Cow in three.
(2) Road Gold in three turns. Improve Cow in two.
(3) Road Gold in two turns. Improve Cow in two. City #5 unconnected.
If I can't figure out a better way to do it, do you have a preference?
I'd favor (1). Or maybe (3).
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Good news:
Spoiler :
The gold affects 1 citizen in capital? compare the yield with early cow. Looks like new city wins. Edit: option 3 is good.
Tell me the real good new of 4 archers on T62, or finally good news that Asoka's capital is ours, or the best news that we even keep the granary with less loss expected.
Tell me the real good new of 4 archers on T62, or finally good news that Asoka's capital is ours, or the best news that we even keep the granary with less loss expected.
I'll need to go with (1) > (2).
Gold affects 1 citizen in the capital (= +3 yield). But if Golden Sands is unconnected, we lose 2C a turn.
Settling Wheat/Cow earlier adds to our maintenance, offsetting the gain of an early tile.
Finally, if we take three turns to improve the Gold, as with (2), then Rice Pudding will need to stagnate growth for a turn. So 2 citizens are lost for one turn.
I can go with (3). Let me write out the micro.
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I can sense your impatience. I will finish this turn, upload, and then you or someone else can perform the attack.
Gold affects 1 citizen in the capital (= +3 yield). But if Golden Sands is unconnected, we lose 2C a turn.
Settling Wheat/Cow earlier adds to our maintenance, offsetting the gain of an early tile.
Finally, if we take three turns to improve the Gold, as with (2), then Rice Pudding will need to stagnate growth for a turn. So 2 citizens are lost for one turn.
I can go with (3). Let me write out the micro.
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I can sense your impatience.
I will finish this turn, upload, and then you or someone else can perform the attack.
GL pomthom. 
I attach a test, if you want to get a feel for the attacking part.
In the test, I include two healthy Axemen with 0XP. In the real game we only have one. The second 0XP Axe is meant to approximate our real game's Combat I/Shock Axe, which only has 4.5 health.
I can give you explicit instructions, if you'd like. Otherwise, in general I would start off with the 0XP Axeman, then use either the Combat I or CR I Axemen to wound the Archers.
Use the CR II Axeman as soon as we have wounded all four of his defenders. And then clean up. Try to use the Woodsman II Axeman last, because, if things go well, he could also capture the Worker in the real game.
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Another Longbow appeared, by the way, so perhaps the Barbarians do have Feudalism after all.
I attach a test, if you want to get a feel for the attacking part.
In the test, I include two healthy Axemen with 0XP. In the real game we only have one. The second 0XP Axe is meant to approximate our real game's Combat I/Shock Axe, which only has 4.5 health.
I can give you explicit instructions, if you'd like. Otherwise, in general I would start off with the 0XP Axeman, then use either the Combat I or CR I Axemen to wound the Archers.
Use the CR II Axeman as soon as we have wounded all four of his defenders. And then clean up. Try to use the Woodsman II Axeman last, because, if things go well, he could also capture the Worker in the real game.
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Another Longbow appeared, by the way, so perhaps the Barbarians do have Feudalism after all.
^^Yep.
After testing several fights last SGOTM, sending in the real newbies first seems to work as good as sending some level 2~3 guys.
So 0xp and then (follow as Doshin said because it's clearer than this) CR1 (slightly better odds vs. non-fortified) or CR2 when warranted.
After testing several fights last SGOTM, sending in the real newbies first seems to work as good as sending some level 2~3 guys.
So 0xp and then (follow as Doshin said because it's clearer than this) CR1 (slightly better odds vs. non-fortified) or CR2 when warranted.
I was uncertain how to manage this. I am worried about our
.If we opt for (1), we will gain +6C thanks to trade routes:
Spoiler :
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However, (3) lets us work the Cow ASAP (+3H versus unimproved Corn)
Spoiler :
So I favor settling on T62, with a trade network in place, and delaying the Pasture by one turn (–3H +6C).
I am also pretty sure that, for either PPP, we can improve the Corn on T66 by moving the 'spare' Worker from the Desert/Gold as soon as the road is built.
This would let the city grow a turn sooner (12F ----> 17F ----> 22F ; 0/24 ----> 6/24F, whip ----> 11/22F, with Granary).
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I can test and then write out the micro tomorrow, even though I may not be the one who uses it.
I'll also wait until we've attacked Asoka. Literature and TGL micro will take precedent over the above.
It depends who is defending. If it is the combat 1 archer we are better of attacking with CR1 guys while if it is the unpromoted/no fortify bonus archer we are better of attacking with axe without promotions.
GL pomthom.
I attach a test, if you want to get a feel for the attacking part.
In the test, I include two healthy Axemen with 0XP. In the real game we only have one. The second 0XP Axe is meant to approximate our real game's Combat I/Shock Axe, which only has 4.5 health.
I can give you explicit instructions, if you'd like. Otherwise, in general I would start off with the 0XP Axeman, then use either the Combat I or CR I Axemen to wound the Archers.
Use the CR II Axeman as soon as we have wounded all four of his defenders. And then clean up. Try to use the Woodsman II Axeman last, because, if things go well, he could also capture the Worker in the real game.
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Another Longbow appeared, by the way, so perhaps the Barbarians do have Feudalism after all.
I want you to start with the CR 2 axe. then attack whoever has best odds (combat 1 if they are equal to CR 1). Once a unpromoted archer is top attack with 0 xp axemen.
I will do some calculations and see if there is any reason to have the stronger axemen fight the weaker archers.
But leaving the strongest axeman to when all archers are hurt is really wasted potential. We get more utility out of them by having them fight as many rounds as possible. But it might be better to hurt two archers first.
Expect me back in three hours.
btw. is the test game created using new RNG seed on reload?
But leaving the strongest axeman to when all archers are hurt is really wasted potential. We get more utility out of them by having them fight as many rounds as possible. But it might be better to hurt two archers first.
Expect me back in three hours.
btw. is the test game created using new RNG seed on reload?
