SGOTM 19 - Also Sprach Sid

[pomthom]

HC is back to Cautious:

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Trade possibilities:

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I'd say trade for both but I'm not sure

 

[Duckweed]

I'd trade CoL with Math only.

Edit: wait, why HC does not want to trade Math? I guess we are still his WE this turn.

You really show better luck than doshin, Math trade opportunity in 4 turns!

 

[Doshin]

WFYABTA is 8 techs for everyone but Kublai and Napoleon.

Meditation, Polytheism, Priesthood, Monarchy, Iron Working, Monotheism, Mathematics = 7.

I'd refrain from HBR too. We can get it later.

I'd trade CoL with Math only.

Edit: wait, why HC does not want to trade Math? I guess we are still his WE this turn.

It'll take a turn for the WE to decay.

You really show better luck than doshin, Math trade opportunity in 4 turns!

If I had attacked Constantinople, Asoka would have won all 9 battles and produced a Great General.

 

[pomthom]

I'd trade CoL with Math only.

Edit: wait, why HC does not want to trade Math? I guess we are still his WE this turn.

Yes we are.


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FYI this Axe might be a problem:




Thessalonica's borders will pop IBT and teleport the Axe on the GLH (tested), just next to the desert road where our Missionary should have gone. I'll leave the Missionary on the GLH before the desert tile and hope the Axe doesn't choose to go on the desert road IBT.

 

[Duckweed]

BTW, I'm still for Music next.

 

[pomthom]

I'd trade CoL with Math only.

Edit: wait, why HC does not want to trade Math? I guess we are still his WE this turn.

You really show better luck than doshin, Math trade opportunity in 4 turns!

I'm ok for Col VS Maths + 20G

 

[Doshin]

BTW, I'm still for Music next.

Yes, me too.

We should switch from Compass ----> Music now.

 

[pomthom]

This Barb city spawned IBT:

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More Toku land:

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Made the tech trade, switched to Music, pressing end turn.

 

[pomthom]

Oops, now that we have Maths, the chop in Sheepish will not allow a 2-pop whip next turn...




If I had seen this coming I would have pre-cottaged first

What should we do? Put the chop in something else and delay the CH? Carry on and 1-pop whip?

EDIT: now that Aesthetics is out there, do I still bank hammers in Cornish Cow or do I put OF in Parth/SoZ?

 

[Doshin]

Build Wealth for a turn. Or put the chop into the ToA.

 

[pomthom]

Build Wealth for a turn.

Wut?


EDIT: Golden Sands @size 3 has only 4 OF so I'll stick with Library until size 4 and then switch to Worker.

BTW HC is willing to trade HBR and Kublai got a GProhet IBT

 

[Doshin]

If you do not want to whip for 1-pop, build Wealth and whip next turn.

If this will mean that you need to 3–pop whip on T82, then you will have to decide whether the city can cope with the unhappiness (= chop, 1-pop whip), or you will need to invest the chop in another build on T81, i.e. a wonder, and then 2-pop whip on T83.

 

[pomthom]

I think I'll put it in the ToA and 2-pop on T83... with a bit of luck the ToA will be built IBT

 

[Duckweed]

You could put the chop to a missionary, we need it either for Toku's border city or 10th city.

 

[pomthom]

You could put the chop to a missionary, we need it either for Toku's border city or 10th city.

Too late

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Kublai built his Shrine and another Great Prophet was born, for HC this time.

Toku is 2 turns away from Mono, should we do this?

 

[Duckweed]

Why not wait until next, we have lots of techs on Toku.

 

[Doshin]

No. That would shave two turns off Feudalism. Maybe next turn, I'm not sure.

How many turns do we presently need to research Music? I am not sure whether we should commit to it now, before an AI demands that we give them our gold.

 

[pomthom]

Ok folks, T83 that's as far as I've thouroughly planned, will upload the save in a few. I'll have a less time next week starting tomorrow so I think it's a good time to hand over if we don't want the pace of the game to slow. Duckweed, you up for it?


I'll post the updated test game tonight or tomorrow morning.

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We can still make the Mono VS 10G with Toku if we want.

It was the perfect timing to generate a useless GA at low odds (7%). But we didn't

By working the Quarry and the GL Mine, Case Départ will be able to 3-pop whip the Market next turn.

HC suggested this trade (the gold is less than his total gold):

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Tech screen:

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City screens:

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Lay of the land:

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Log:

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Here is your Session Turn Log from 975 BC to 800 BC:


Turn 77, 950 BC: Napoleon adopts Organized Religion!

Turn 78, 925 BC: The borders of Case Départ have expanded!
Turn 78, 925 BC: The borders of Rice Pudding have expanded!

Turn 79, 900 BC: Buddhism has spread in Cornish Cow.
Turn 79, 900 BC: Buddhism has spread in Golden Sands.
Turn 79, 900 BC: Dye Hard has been founded.
Turn 79, 900 BC: You have trained Buddhist Missionary in Sheepish. Work has now begun on a Courthouse.

Turn 80, 875 BC: Buddhism has spread in Sea Horse.
Turn 80, 875 BC: You have discovered Mathematics!
Turn 80, 875 BC: You have constructed a Courthouse in Golden Sands. Work has now begun on a Library.
Turn 80, 875 BC: The borders of Thessalonica have expanded!
Turn 80, 875 BC: St. Thomas Aquinas (Great Prophet) has been born in Madrid (Kublai Khan)!
Turn 80, 875 BC: Barbarian's Archer (3.00) vs Trumpster's Axeman 4 (Case Départ) (7.25)
Turn 80, 875 BC: Combat Odds: 0.6%
Turn 80, 875 BC: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 80, 875 BC: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 80, 875 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 30 (70/100HP)
Turn 80, 875 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 30 (40/100HP)
Turn 80, 875 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 30 (10/100HP)
Turn 80, 875 BC: Barbarian's Archer is hit for 30 (0/100HP)
Turn 80, 875 BC: Trumpster's Axeman 4 (Case Départ) has defeated Barbarian's Archer!

Turn 81, 850 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Sheepish!
Turn 81, 850 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Thessalonica!
Turn 81, 850 BC: Constantinople can hurry Courthouse for 3⇴ with 6ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 18 turns.
Turn 81, 850 BC: Sea Horse has grown to size 2.
Turn 81, 850 BC: Huayna Capac has no worst enemy.
Turn 81, 850 BC: Huayna Capac will trade Horseback Riding
Turn 81, 850 BC: Clearing a Forest has created 30 ℤ for Sheepish.
Turn 81, 850 BC: Rice Pudding will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 81, 850 BC: Sheepish will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 81, 850 BC: Constantinople will grow to size 4 on the next turn.
Turn 81, 850 BC: Kublai Khan has completed The Kashi Vishwanath!
Turn 81, 850 BC: Jeanne d'Arc (Great Prophet) has been born in Aachen (Huayna Capac)!
Turn 81, 850 BC: Napoleon has founded Kayseri in a distant land.

Turn 82, 825 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Thessalonica!
Turn 82, 825 BC: Case Départ will become unhealthy on the next turn.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Case Départ will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Rice Pudding has grown to size 5.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Golden Sands can hurry Library for 1⇴ with 5ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 18 turns.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Sheepish has grown to size 7.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Case Départ will grow to size 11 on the next turn.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Golden Sands will grow to size 4 on the next turn.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Cornish Cow will grow to size 4 on the next turn.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Thessalonica will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Sea Horse will grow to size 3 on the next turn.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Nicolaus Copernicus (Great Scientist) has been born in Case Départ (Trumpster)!
Turn 82, 825 BC: Huayna Capac has founded Augsburg in a distant land.
Turn 82, 825 BC: Alexander has founded Khurasan in a distant land.

Turn 83, 800 BC: The enemy has been spotted near Thessalonica!
Turn 83, 800 BC: Case Départ has grown to size 11.
Turn 83, 800 BC: Case Départ has become unhealthy.
Turn 83, 800 BC: Case Départ has become unhappy.
Turn 83, 800 BC: Golden Sands has grown to size 4.
Turn 83, 800 BC: Sheepish can hurry Courthouse for 2⇴ with 8ℤ overflow and +1⇤ for 23 turns.
Turn 83, 800 BC: Cornish Cow has grown to size 4.
Turn 83, 800 BC: Thessalonica has grown to size 2.
Turn 83, 800 BC: Sea Horse has grown to size 3.
Turn 83, 800 BC: Huayna Capac has 50 gold available for trade.

 

[Duckweed]

Well done.

Nappy is unbelievable fast at expansion.

Yes, I could take over next if you really don't have time to continue on, 2~3 turns a day is really not a fast pace.

 

[pomthom]

Well done.

Nappy is unbelievable fast at expansion.

Yes, I could take over next if you really don't have time to continue on, 2~3 turns a day is really not a fast pace.

I'm pretty sure you don't want me to play fast