SGOTM 19 - Also Sprach Sid

[Doshin]

Taking a break to eat. We captured Vienna with 4 losses:

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Our RNG luck seemed fairly balanced. I think we will need to consolidate before attacking Aachen.

 

[Duckweed]

You could send the remaining Cuis to take Augsburg 1st, they can still attend the battles in Aachen on T144.

Good luck.

 

[Doshin]

Resuming play.

 

[Doshin]

Shall we found Fish/Silver?

Spoiler :

I am in favor, as it will enable growth in Salamanca.

 

[Doshin]

Hagia Sophia is as OP as it was in SGOTM 18

Spoiler :

 

[kossin]

It should be slightly commerce negative or just about break even...
IMO we just need to wait and get the workboat done last minute.

 

[Doshin]

It should be commerce neutral after 6 turns, with the GLH trade routes and Colossus. After the WB, it can just build Wealth (+5HPT at size 2) with +12C from city square/Fish/Silver and +6-8C from trade routes, although this drops with Corporation.

A third player can vote yay or nay.

 

[kossin]

I would't count silver commerce to justify this city since it's already being worked.

 

[Folket]

I say settle it. Salamanta can work the windmill. Should still be a net gain after the first turns.

 

[Doshin]

I'm slowing down, so I'll upload for the night. The turn is almost done, but I've left some important unit moves until tomorrow.

We can also decide about Democracy (1 turn or 2?) and whether or not I should start to mass build Cuirassiers, for multiple whips on T143 (I don't think so, but maybe 5 turns after that).

 

[Doshin]

Log:

Spoiler :

Here is your Session Turn Log from 580 AD to 620 AD:

Turn 139, 580 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Mycenian!
Turn 139, 580 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Crib!
Turn 139, 580 AD: Golden Sands has grown to size 4.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Sea Horse has grown to size 8.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Lalibela has grown to size 4.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Fish Ships has grown to size 2.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Toledo will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Seville has become happy.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Huayna Capac has 160 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander has 70 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Tokugawa.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Your population: 193 (46.28%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 187 (45.00%)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Toledo will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Huayna Capac has 160 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander has 70 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Tokugawa.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Your population: 193 (46.28%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 187 (45.00%)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 48 (Cornish Cow) (13.82) vs Barbarian's Longbowman (9.00)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Combat Odds: 84.4%
Turn 139, 580 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 139, 580 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 139, 580 AD: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (76/100HP)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 48 (Cornish Cow) is hit for 16 (80/100HP)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (52/100HP)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 48 (Cornish Cow) is hit for 16 (64/100HP)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (28/100HP)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (4/100HP)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 48 (Cornish Cow) is hit for 16 (48/100HP)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (0/100HP)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 48 (Cornish Cow) has defeated Barbarian's Longbowman!
Turn 139, 580 AD: Your Cuirassier 48 (Cornish Cow) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 139, 580 AD: Clearing a Forest has created 13 ℤ for Crib.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Toledo will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Huayna Capac has 160 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander has 70 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Tokugawa.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Your population: 193 (46.28%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 187 (45.00%)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Sheepish will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Thessalonica will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Aksum will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Addis Ababa will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Yeha will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Sheepish will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Thessalonica will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Aksum will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Addis Ababa will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Yeha will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Toledo will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Huayna Capac has 160 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander has 70 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Tokugawa.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Your population: 193 (46.28%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 187 (45.00%)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Sheepish will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Thessalonica will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Aksum will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Addis Ababa will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Yeha will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Sheepish will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Thessalonica will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Aksum will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Addis Ababa will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Yeha will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Sheepish will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Thessalonica will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Aksum will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Addis Ababa will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Yeha will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Sheepish will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Thessalonica will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Aksum will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Addis Ababa will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Yeha will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Toledo will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander has 70 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Tokugawa.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Your population: 193 (46.28%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 187 (45.00%)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Deal Canceled: Open Borders to Huayna Capac for Open Borders
Turn 139, 580 AD: Deal Canceled: Dye to Huayna Capac for Gold Per Turn (1)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Deal Canceled: Rice to Huayna Capac for Gold Per Turn (2)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Deal Canceled: Clam to Huayna Capac for Gold Per Turn (2)
Turn 139, 580 AD: You have declared war on Huayna Capac!
Turn 139, 580 AD: Huayna Capac refuses to talk.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Sheepish will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Thessalonica will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Aksum will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Addis Ababa will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Yeha will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Toledo will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander has 70 gold available for trade.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Huayna Capac refuses to talk.
Turn 139, 580 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Tokugawa.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Your population: 193 (46.28%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 187 (45.00%)
Turn 139, 580 AD: Sheepish will grow to size 12 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Thessalonica will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Aksum will grow to size 9 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Addis Ababa will grow to size 7 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Yeha will grow to size 2 on the next turn.
Turn 139, 580 AD: You have trained a Cuirassier in Rice Pudding. Work has now begun on a Cuirassier.
Turn 139, 580 AD: Huayna Capac has completed University of Sankore!
Turn 139, 580 AD: Napoleon adopts Bureaucracy!

Turn 140, 600 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Salamanca!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Sheepish has grown to size 12.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Thessalonica has grown to size 7.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Aksum has grown to size 9.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Addis Ababa has grown to size 7.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Yeha has grown to size 2.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Toledo has been pacified.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Toledo will become happy on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Cordoba will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: You are the worst enemy of Huayna Capac.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Yeha are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Toledo are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your population: 198 (46.92%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 189 (45.00%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Toledo will become happy on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Cordoba will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Alexander has 80 gold available for trade.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Huayna Capac refuses to talk.
Turn 140, 600 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Huayna Capac, Tokugawa.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Yeha are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Toledo are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your population: 198 (46.92%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 189 (45.00%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: You have declared war on Tokugawa!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa refuses to talk.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 47 (Rice Pudding) (15.60) vs Tokugawa's Longbowman (14.10)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Combat Odds: 68.5%
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Extra Combat: -30%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 47 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 47 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (37/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (16/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 47 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 47 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 47 (Rice Pudding) has defeated Tokugawa's Longbowman!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your Cuirassier 47 (Rice Pudding) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 51 (Rice Pudding) (15.60) vs Tokugawa's Longbowman (14.10)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Combat Odds: 68.5%
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Extra Combat: -30%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (79/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 51 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 51 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 51 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (58/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 51 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 51 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (5/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 51 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman has defeated Trumpster's Cuirassier 51 (Rice Pudding)!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your Cuirassier 51 (Rice Pudding) has died trying to attack a Longbowman!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 50 (Case Départ) (14.40) vs Tokugawa's Swordsman (9.00)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Combat Odds: 95.6%
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 50 (Case Départ) is hit for 15 (85/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Swordsman is hit for 25 (75/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Swordsman is hit for 25 (50/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 50 (Case Départ) is hit for 15 (70/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Swordsman is hit for 25 (25/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Swordsman is hit for 25 (0/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 50 (Case Départ) has defeated Tokugawa's Swordsman!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your Cuirassier 50 (Case Départ) has destroyed a Swordsman!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 52 (Thessalonica) (13.20) vs Tokugawa's Longbowman (8.17)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Combat Odds: 96.0%
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Plot Defense: +40%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (37/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (16/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa's Longbowman is hit for 21 (0/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 52 (Thessalonica) has defeated Tokugawa's Longbowman!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your Cuirassier 52 (Thessalonica) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 140, 600 AD: You have captured Qohaito!!!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your population: 200 (47.51%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 189 (45.00%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: You have destroyed the city of Qohaito!!!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your population: 198 (47.26%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 188 (45.00%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Clearing a Forest has created 13 ℤ for Crib.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Cordoba will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Alexander has 80 gold available for trade.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Huayna Capac refuses to talk.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa refuses to talk.
Turn 140, 600 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Huayna Capac, Tokugawa.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Yeha are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Toledo are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your population: 198 (47.26%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 188 (45.00%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 36 (Rice Pudding) (10.92) vs Huayna Capac's Scout (1.10)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Extra Combat: -30%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Huayna Capac's Scout is hit for 49 (51/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Huayna Capac's Scout is hit for 49 (2/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Huayna Capac's Scout is hit for 49 (0/100HP)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 36 (Rice Pudding) has defeated Huayna Capac's Scout!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your Cuirassier 36 (Rice Pudding) has destroyed a Scout!
Turn 140, 600 AD: Cordoba will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Alexander has 80 gold available for trade.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Huayna Capac refuses to talk.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa refuses to talk.
Turn 140, 600 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Huayna Capac, Tokugawa.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Yeha are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Toledo are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your population: 198 (47.26%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 188 (45.00%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Clearing a Forest has created 30 ℤ for Lalibela.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Cordoba will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Alexander has 80 gold available for trade.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Huayna Capac refuses to talk.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa refuses to talk.
Turn 140, 600 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Huayna Capac, Tokugawa.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Yeha are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Toledo are about to expand.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Your population: 198 (47.26%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 188 (45.00%)
Turn 140, 600 AD: Cornish Cow will grow to size 8 on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Gondar will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Lalibela will grow to size 5 on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Addis Ababa will grow to size 8 on the next turn.
Turn 140, 600 AD: You have trained a Cuirassier in Rice Pudding. Work has now begun on a Cuirassier.
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Yeha have expanded!
Turn 140, 600 AD: The borders of Toledo have expanded!
Turn 140, 600 AD: You have trained a Work Boat in Crib. Work has now begun on a Galley.
Turn 140, 600 AD: Julius Rosenberg (Great Spy) has been born in Najran (Alexander)!
Turn 140, 600 AD: A Farm was destroyed by enemy infiltrators!

Turn 141, 620 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Mycenian!
Turn 141, 620 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Mycenian!
Turn 141, 620 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Cordoba!
Turn 141, 620 AD: The enemy has been spotted near Bacon Sandwich!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Cornish Cow has grown to size 8.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Aksum will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Gondar has grown to size 5.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Lalibela has grown to size 5.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Addis Ababa has grown to size 8.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barcelona will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Cordoba has been pacified.
Turn 141, 620 AD: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 141, 620 AD: The borders of Cordoba are about to expand.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your population: 202 (47.31%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 192 (45.00%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 28 (Case Départ) (13.20) vs Huayna Capac's Landsknecht (17.70)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 21.7%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Plot Defense: +85%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Combat: -25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Combat: +100%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 28 (Case Départ) is hit for 23 (77/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 28 (Case Départ) is hit for 23 (54/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Landsknecht is hit for 17 (83/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 28 (Case Départ) is hit for 23 (31/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 28 (Case Départ) is hit for 23 (8/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 28 (Case Départ) has withdrawn from combat with a Landsknecht!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 17 (Rice Pudding) (15.60) vs Huayna Capac's Longbowman (16.80)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 33.4%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -30%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Plot Defense: +85%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 17 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 17 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 17 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 17 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 17 (Rice Pudding) is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman has defeated Trumpster's Cuirassier 17 (Rice Pudding)!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 17 (Rice Pudding) has died trying to attack a Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 43 (Lalibela) (13.20) vs Huayna Capac's Landsknecht (15.93)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 38.8%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Plot Defense: +85%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Combat: +100%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 43 (Lalibela) is hit for 23 (77/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 43 (Lalibela) is hit for 23 (54/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 43 (Lalibela) is hit for 23 (31/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 43 (Lalibela) is hit for 23 (8/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 43 (Lalibela) is hit for 23 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Landsknecht has defeated Trumpster's Cuirassier 43 (Lalibela)!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 43 (Lalibela) has died trying to attack a Landsknecht!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 10 (Bacon Sandwich) (12.93) vs Huayna Capac's Landsknecht (14.69)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 42.4%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Plot Defense: +85%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Combat: -25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Combat: +100%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Landsknecht is hit for 17 (66/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Landsknecht is hit for 17 (49/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Landsknecht is hit for 17 (32/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Landsknecht is hit for 17 (15/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Landsknecht is hit for 17 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 10 (Bacon Sandwich) has defeated Huayna Capac's Landsknecht!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 10 (Bacon Sandwich) has destroyed a Landsknecht!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 13 (Constantinople) (14.40) vs Huayna Capac's Longbowman (14.40)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 50.0%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Plot Defense: +85%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Defense: +45%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 13 (Constantinople) is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 13 (Constantinople) is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 13 (Constantinople) is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 13 (Constantinople) is hit for 20 (20/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 13 (Constantinople) is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman has defeated Trumpster's Cuirassier 13 (Constantinople)!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 13 (Constantinople) has died trying to attack a Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 4 (Sheepish) (14.40) vs Huayna Capac's War Elephant (13.60)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 65.9%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Combat: +50%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 4 (Sheepish) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 4 (Sheepish) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's War Elephant is hit for 20 (80/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 4 (Sheepish) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 4 (Sheepish) is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's War Elephant is hit for 20 (60/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 4 (Sheepish) is hit for 19 (5/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's War Elephant is hit for 20 (40/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 4 (Sheepish) is hit for 19 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's War Elephant has defeated Trumpster's Cuirassier 4 (Sheepish)!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 4 (Sheepish) has died trying to attack a War Elephant!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 25 (Sea Horse) (13.20) vs Huayna Capac's Longbowman (7.22)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 97.4%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Plot Defense: +85%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Defense: +70%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 20 (23/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 25 (Sea Horse) is hit for 19 (81/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 25 (Sea Horse) is hit for 19 (62/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 25 (Sea Horse) is hit for 19 (43/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 20 (3/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 25 (Sea Horse) is hit for 19 (24/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 20 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 25 (Sea Horse) has defeated Huayna Capac's Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 25 (Sea Horse) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 25 (Rice Pudding) (13.57) vs Huayna Capac's Longbowman (5.76)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 99.6%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -30%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Plot Defense: +85%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Fortify: +10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (City Defense: +45%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 24 (16/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 24 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 25 (Rice Pudding) has defeated Huayna Capac's Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 25 (Rice Pudding) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 21 (Rice Pudding) (15.60) vs Huayna Capac's War Elephant (5.44)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 100.0%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -30%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: +20%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Combat: +50%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's War Elephant is hit for 25 (15/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's War Elephant is hit for 25 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 21 (Rice Pudding) has defeated Huayna Capac's War Elephant!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 21 (Rice Pudding) has destroyed a War Elephant!
Turn 141, 620 AD: You have captured Vienna!!!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your population: 207 (48.59%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 191 (45.00%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Aksum will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barcelona will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Alexander has 100 gold available for trade.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac refuses to talk.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Tokugawa refuses to talk.
Turn 141, 620 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Huayna Capac, Tokugawa.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 141, 620 AD: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 141, 620 AD: The borders of Cordoba are about to expand.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your population: 207 (48.59%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 191 (45.00%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 26 (Rice Pudding) (15.60) vs Huayna Capac's Longbowman (6.60)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 99.6%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -30%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: +10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 30 (70/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 30 (40/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 30 (10/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac's Longbowman is hit for 30 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 26 (Rice Pudding) has defeated Huayna Capac's Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 26 (Rice Pudding) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 19 (Cornish Cow) (13.20) vs Barbarian's Longbowman (9.00)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Combat Odds: 89.4%
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Extra Combat: -10%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Plot Defense: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: (Hills Defense: +25%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (76/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (52/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (28/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 19 (Cornish Cow) is hit for 16 (84/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 19 (Cornish Cow) is hit for 16 (68/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 19 (Cornish Cow) is hit for 16 (52/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (4/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 19 (Cornish Cow) is hit for 16 (36/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barbarian's Longbowman is hit for 24 (0/100HP)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Trumpster's Cuirassier 19 (Cornish Cow) has defeated Barbarian's Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 19 (Cornish Cow) has destroyed a Longbowman!
Turn 141, 620 AD: Clearing a Forest has created 30 ℤ for Murcia.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Aksum will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barcelona will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Alexander has 100 gold available for trade.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac refuses to talk.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Tokugawa refuses to talk.
Turn 141, 620 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Huayna Capac, Tokugawa.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.
Turn 141, 620 AD: The borders of Sheepish are about to expand.
Turn 141, 620 AD: The borders of Cordoba are about to expand.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your population: 207 (48.59%) exceeds the Domination Limit: 191 (45.00%)
Turn 141, 620 AD: Your Cuirassier 52 (Thessalonica) has destroyed a Worker!
Turn 141, 620 AD: You have captured a Worker
Turn 141, 620 AD: Aksum will become unhappy on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Barcelona will be pacified on the next turn.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Alexander has 100 gold available for trade.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Huayna Capac refuses to talk.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Tokugawa refuses to talk.
Turn 141, 620 AD: You are the worst enemy of Kublai Khan, Huayna Capac, Tokugawa.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Alexander is the worst enemy of Napoleon.
Turn 141, 620 AD: Tokugawa is the worst enemy of Alexander.

 

[Duckweed]

Fine to settle the fish site.

Switch EP on KK. Which city to gift to KK and steal Optics? Yeha or Sheepish in the last moment.

Does the Salam need CH, the forests need to be saved for executive for the Fish site. Better to build wealth.

Workers need to road the tile 2E of Condar and 1E of Aksum so that the GM from DH can do the trade mission on T143, the time when we run out of cash.

We should build wealth in more cities now to keep 100% slider, as I said a few times, cities that need to rely on whip to finish Cuis or infrastructures better to build wealth. We still have some time for war after completing research.

 

[kossin]

1T Democracy is 106b extra (1254 bpt this turn) and should be achievable without too much sacrifice.

As Duckweed said a few times now, start building wealth in cities with low hammers instead of Cuirassiers which will be whipped.

 

[Doshin]

What is the next tech target after this. Bearing in mind GP dates, and that it is T141 now:

We have a GScientist and GArtist in hand.

1 Great Merchant from DH = guaranteed @T142
1 Great Merchant from BS = guaranteed @T143
1 Great Merchant from Economics

1 Great Person from Constantinople (Great Merchant >> Great Scientist >> Great Spy > Great Engineer/Great Artist @T146
1 Great Person from Case Départ (Great Scientist >>> GEngineer >> GArtist) @T148​

A Great Merchant would be more flexible than a GScientist. Any Great Artists (pollution inevitable due to the MoM and NE) are largely pointless.

T141: Democracy
T142: Democracy
T143: Chemistry (lots of OF from Democracy)
T144: Liberalism
T145: bank
T146: Banking​

or...

T141: Democracy
T142: bank
T143: Chemistry
T144: Liberalism
T145: bank
T146: Banking​

or something else:

Workers need to road the tile 2E of Condar and 1E of Aksum so that the GM from DH can do the trade mission on T143, the time when we run out of cash.

 

[Doshin]

We should be able to calculate Alex's power (Toku is weakest, we have EP on HC, Nappy is strongest) using the average AI power. With that we should be able to figure out if Alex would be able to be bribed against Napoleon.

Can you calculate this easily? I am not sure how, or what the ratios are.

We should wipe Tokugawa next turn, so that would suggest we:

T141: bribe Alex off Kublai
T142: (1) kill Tokugawa; (2) bribe Alex against Napoleon​

Napoleon is presumably plotting to attack Alex anyway, but we have no control over his actual declaration.

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The mounted defenders (3!) in Tokugawa's last city go back to:

Good news that Toku's stack is heading south for the south barbarian city.

Spoiler :

 

[soundjata]

Don't we want to keep Toku alive so as to gift him a few cities later?

 

[Duckweed]

Are we sure that we can end the war with HC on T145?

One thing that needs to be considered is to keep track of the lose/kill ratio of this war. Our war success might not be enough to twist Guild. In that case, we need to invest some beakers to Guild.

Regarding the tech next. We should not invest any beaker to Liberalism now, since it should be completed in 1 turn with the later stage of beaker output and some OF from last tech.

Don't we want to keep Toku alive so as to gift him a few cities later?

Any AI (including Alex and Nappy) can do, while Toku has to go due to the unhappiness he cause in his previous cities.

 

[kossin]

Our power: 931k
Toku power: 78k
Napoleon power: 681k
HC power: 251k

Average power: 334k
Alex power: (334*5-681-78-251) = 660k

660 vs 681

I'm not sure what variable is considered for bribing war, but if it's any similar to the AI deciding to DoW himself, there shouldn't be any problems.

 

[Doshin]

Are we sure that we can end the war with HC on T145?

I had assumed we could finish it on T146. Or do you mean that we should aim to capture Prague on T145?

One thing that needs to be considered is to keep track of the lose/kill ratio of this war. Our war success might not be enough to twist Guild. In that case, we need to invest some beakers to Guild.

So far:

Vienna: 1 retreat; lose 4; kill 4
Mainz: lose 3; kill 3
Other: kill 2 Scouts; kill 1 Longbow​

Regarding the tech next. We should not invest any beaker to Liberalism now, since it should be completed in 1 turn with the later stage of beaker output and some OF from last tech.

I think we will need to research Chemistry, in that case. It is unlikely that we will spawn two more Great Scientists, and if we do they will both need to bulb Scientific Method.

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I have not spread a corporation in a SGOTM game before. Will the be a limiting factor, with a 0% slider?

 

[kossin]

^^With a lot of cities, for sure.

That's a side-reason to only acquire the corporation goods at the last minute: less upkeep... can't remember if that changes the cost of spreading though.