[BTS] SGOTM 26 - Home Slices

[Kaitzilla]

Speaking of failgold. Any guess on what Bis might do with the GE?

He might try to complete Chichen Itza or Shwedagon Paya.
He already has Statue of Zeus.

Spoiler :

Not sure if we can do much.
He might just settle the Great Person if he isn't working on a wonder.

 

[Kaitzilla]

T161 Real Game Screenshots!

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[Kaitzilla]

Just a quick update to an old post.

Notes:

1. Don't forget to revolt to our state religion before the end of the game.

This is a good reminder post.
It highlights our path to victory based on the game requirements.

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/sgotm-26-pre-game-announcement-ii.657202/

Some maintain that the faith was not always like this and along the way something has been mangled or lost but you dismiss that as an old wives tale.

The text tells you that to end Winter you must build 7 cities, each a tribute to one face of god, each city must have a Temple of your state religion and also certain other buildings. You will need to put your best minds to work to establish how to create these buildings.

Prophet- Dun, Temple, Monastery, Cathedral, Moai Statues, Great Wonder generating Great Prophet points

Merchant - Dun, Temple, Market, Bank, Wall Street, Great Wonder generating Great Merchant points

Artist - Dun, Temple, Theatre, Broadcast Tower, Globe Theatre, Great Wonder generating Great Artist points

Scientist - Dun, Temple, Library, Lab, Oxford University, Great Wonder generating Great Scientist points

General- Dun, Temple, Barracks, Drydock, Heroic Epic, Corporation HQ

Engineer - Dun, Temple, Forge, Industrial Park, Ironworks, Great Wonder generating Great Engineer points

Spy - Dun, Temple, Courthouse, Intelligence Agency, West Point, Great Wonder generating Great Spy points

You may construct other buildings in each city, as well as the requirements noted above, provided you only build exactly 6 Great Wonders and found exactly 1 Corporation.

You do NOT need to generate the appropriate great person just build the right Wonders in each city.

You must be running a State Religion when you win the game, but it is up to you which one you use however you must have temples of that religion in each city as well as the cathedral in the Prophet city.

(Cathedral is used in the generic sense it does not have to be a Christian Cathedral e.g. the Stupa is defined in-game as "the Buddhist Cathedral").

Profit (Prophet City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80)- Need it still
Monastery - Got it
Cathedral (300 requires Temple)- Need it still
Moai Statues - Got it
Great Wonder generating Great Prophet points - Got it (Oracle)

Merchant (Clam City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80) - Need it still
Market (150)- Need it still
Bank (200)- Need it still
Wall Street (600 requires Bank)- Need it still
UN (1000) Great Wonder generating Great Merchant points - Need it still

Artist (Whale City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80)- Need it still
Theatre (50)- Need it still
Broadcast Tower (175) - Need it still
Globe Theatre (300 requires Theatre)- Need it still
Great Wonder generating Great Artist points - Got it (Parthenon)

Scientist (Science City)
Dun - Got it
Temple - Got it
Library - Got it
Observatory (150) - Need it still
Lab (250 requires Observatory)- Need it still (chop at end of game?)
Oxford University - Got it
Great Wonder generating Great Scientist points - Got it (University of Sankore)

General (Silver City)
Dun (50 double with stone) - Need it still
Temple (80)- Need it still
Barracks (50 double with Agressive Civ) - Need it still
Drydock (120 double with Aggressive Civ)- Need it still
Heroic Epic (200 double with marble, requires Barracks)- Need it still (8xp unit promoted)
Corporation HQ - Got it (Sushi)

Engineer (Cow City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80)- Need it still
Forge (120)- Got it
Factory (250) - Need it still
Industrial Park (200 requires Factory) - Need it still
Ironworks (700 requires Forge)- Need it still
Great Wonder generating Great Engineer points - Got it (Pyramids)

Spy (Canal City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80)- Need it still
Courthouse (120)- Need it still
Intelligence Agency (180) - Need it still
West Point (800 double with stone)- Need it still (20xp unit promoted)
Great Wonder generating Great Spy points - Got it (Great Wall)

The techs we need to win the game are also fairly straightforward.

Spoiler :

Military Tradition 3120
Replaceable Parts 2808
Steel 4368
Steam Power 4992
Assembly Line 7800
Industrialism 10140
Communism 4368
Astronomy 3120
Physics 6240
Electricity 7020
Radio 9360
Mass Media 5616
Refrigeration 6240
Superconductors 10140

Assuming we go for UN, then we need 85332 from teching and trades.
If we get Astronomy from Peter, then it is 82212.
Divide out the 1.2 tech bonus, and we need 68510 RAW.
We have a Great Scientist, will get another Great Scientist from Physics, and might get another from the capital.
3 * 1800 = 5400.
5400÷1.2= 4500
68510 - 4500 = 64010

So our empire needs to generate 64,010 RAW to tech everything realistically.
Might be able to get Peter to do Communism for us after Astro too if he likes free Great Spy.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Clams, Profit, and Whale could use University long-term.

As near as I can calculate, fail gold is about the same as working a scientist.
I really don't know when we should starting working 2 scientists in each city.

Good luck WastinTime.

 

[Mitchum]

That's a lot of techs still to go. We might need to pick up the pace in our game play a bit.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Is Bismarck plotting against someone?
I see the fist icon.
Peace Treaty implies it is not Holy Roman Empire?

 

[WastinTime]

Clams, Profit, and Whale could use University long-term.

probably a observatory first. (50 cheaper and a scientist slot)

Clams will not get one since it will be working merchants and workshops all game

 

[WastinTime]

If things look good, I'll aim to play closer to 2pm tomorrow, about 21-22 hours from now.
Playing pIckleball tomorrow morning for the 1st time. before it gets to 100 degrees again.

 

[WastinTime]

It's cheesy, but shouldn't we just keep getting 6 GG points/turn?
Really make that Great Wall pay off in a way we never anticipated.
6 turns to the next one and then, 15 for the 3rd, right?
More like 10-12 turns cus of our other fighting.
Probably should get a 4th GG.

Couldn't our cats walk away and the scout sits there for about 15 turns healing?
Another cat could take over or they could even come back for more.
The only drawback I see is 1hpt for the oil.

 

[Mitchum]

Is Bismarck plotting against someone?
I see the fist icon.
Peace Treaty implies it is not Holy Roman Empire?

I didn't see the fist while playing. I can check later but I'm guessing it's new.

 

[Mitchum]

Playing pIckleball tomorrow morning for the 1st time. before it gets to 100 degrees again.

I grew up playing picleball. I was the high school champ 2 years in a row in PE. I was playing a lot about 5 years ago but haven't played much since then.

Have fun.

 

[Mitchum]

It's cheesy, but shouldn't we just keep getting 6 GG points/turn?

I see no reason not to. I'm not familiar with the GG points and how many are needed. I never paid much attention to them. Keep selling them in Science, right?

 

[Mitchum]

Oh, I think a scout gets 0.1 health when healing in the wild. Not sure about in enemy territory

 

[WastinTime]

I grew up playing picleball.

I only heard about it a couple years ago. I guess it was invented in the 60's. So.. You invented it?

 

[Mitchum]

It was invented in Seattle which is where I grew up. Our neighbors had a court in their yard. It's a lot of fun and less running than tennis.

 

[MirrorGuard]

Academy probably can't compete with GS bulb of Electricity ~1900.

Now science city has 35 from temple and specialist; base commerce 45*50% capital bonus=67. Assuming we have 100% research slider for 80% of the remaining time and science doesn't grow...on average every turn an academy will provide an extra (35+67*80%)*50%=44.3. We still have 60+ turns left?

 

[MirrorGuard]

BTW, do we beg some money from Bismark? There is a small chance that he is planning a war on us. During peace treaty he may give up on the plan.

 

[Kaitzilla]

Best we can do is make sure Germany and Arabs never, ever get Astronomy.

 

[LowtherCastle]

Just a quick update to an old post.


This is a good reminder post.
It highlights our path to victory based on the game requirements.

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/sgotm-26-pre-game-announcement-ii.657202/

Profit (Prophet City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80)- Need it still
Monastery - Got it
Cathedral (300 requires Temple)- Need it still
Moai Statues - Got it
Great Wonder generating Great Prophet points - Got it (Oracle)

Merchant (Clam City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80) - Need it still
Market (150)- Need it still
Bank (200)- Need it still
Wall Street (600 requires Bank)- Need it still
UN (1000) Great Wonder generating Great Merchant points - Need it still

Artist (Whale City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80)- Need it still
Theatre (50)- Need it still
Broadcast Tower (175) - Need it still
Globe Theatre (300 requires Theatre)- Need it still
Great Wonder generating Great Artist points - Got it (Parthenon)

Scientist (Science City)
Dun - Got it
Temple - Got it
Library - Got it
Observatory (150) - Need it still
Lab (250 requires Observatory)- Need it still (chop at end of game?)
Oxford University - Got it
Great Wonder generating Great Scientist points - Got it (University of Sankore)

General (Silver City)
Dun (50 double with stone) - Need it still
Temple (80)- Need it still
Barracks (50 double with Agressive Civ) - Need it still
Drydock (120 double with Aggressive Civ)- Need it still
Heroic Epic (200 double with marble, requires Barracks)- Need it still (8xp unit promoted)
Corporation HQ - Got it (Sushi)

Engineer (Cow City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80)- Need it still
Forge (120)- Got it
Factory (250) - Need it still
Industrial Park (200 requires Factory) - Need it still
Ironworks (700 requires Forge)- Need it still
Great Wonder generating Great Engineer points - Got it (Pyramids)

Spy (Canal City)
Dun - Got it
Temple (80)- Need it still
Courthouse (120)- Need it still
Intelligence Agency (180) - Need it still
West Point (800 double with stone)- Need it still (20xp unit promoted)
Great Wonder generating Great Spy points - Got it (Great Wall)

The techs we need to win the game are also fairly straightforward.

Spoiler :

Military Tradition 3120
Replaceable Parts 2808
Steel 4368
Steam Power 4992
Assembly Line 7800
Industrialism 10140
Communism 4368
Astronomy 3120
Physics 6240
Electricity 7020
Radio 9360
Mass Media 5616
Refrigeration 6240
Superconductors 10140

Assuming we go for UN, then we need 85332 from teching and trades.
If we get Astronomy from Peter, then it is 82212.
Divide out the 1.2 tech bonus, and we need 68510 RAW.
We have a Great Scientist, will get another Great Scientist from Physics, and might get another from the capital.
3 * 1800 = 5400.
68510 - 5400 = 63110

So our empire needs to generate 63,110 RAW to tech everything realistically.
Might be able to get Peter to do Communism for us after Astro too if he likes free Great Spy.

Shouldn’t the GS 5400 be subtracted from COOKED bookers rather than RAW? (Just playing quibble ball).

 

[Kaitzilla]

Shouldn’t the GS 5400 be subtracted from COOKED bookers rather than RAW? (Just playing quibble ball).

Woops, you are completely right.

Let me fix it.