SGOTM 9 - Hagar

[markh]

At the moment science and building up an army to take on the Celts is important.
I would even start by giving Molde to Gandhi and then gift around the ring.
When do we start to release Gandhi ? Maybe we should start doing so now. He will need some time to quell the resistance and build some forces to take further cities.

 

[Andronicus]

At the moment science and building up an army to take on the Celts is important.
I would even start by giving Molde to Gandhi and then gift around the ring.
When do we start to release Gandhi ? Maybe we should start doing so now. He will need some time to quell the resistance and build some forces to take further cities.

I agree with contacting Gandhi and gifting him a city immediately.
I think any of ring cities would be OK, although Molde is the most useful to us for now - its hard to know at what rate Gandhi will approach other cities. I'm happy to go with Molde if thats the consensus, Hammer was my vote because it is closer to getting Gandhi north.

@ juballs
I'm sure you read the rules on gifting - once only contact with Gandhi -> gift one city - no embassy allowed, no other trades / gifts allowed, then immediate dow again.
Other cities can be given by leading units towards our cities with trail of workers. When Gandhi within striking distance of undefended city - gift to Otto and get Otto to join alliance v Gandhi.

 

[markh]

If we gift it to Otto doesn't he get a free defender ? Gandhi will not be able to take a city from Otto until we gift the GLib to him. Otto will have at least rifles against Gandhis' ancient troops. Or am I wrong ?

 

[Andronicus]

If we gift it to Otto doesn't he get a free defender ? Gandhi will not be able to take a city from Otto until we gift the GLib to him. Otto will have at least rifles against Gandhis' ancient troops. Or am I wrong ?

My understanding is he gets no defender but unfortunately he does have nationalism so can draft (infantry). Not sure if he gets the opportunity before Gandhi attacks.
The way to overcome this is to first starve cities back to size 5 or 6 before gifting (I forget what size can start drafting at - is it size 6 or 7?)
- just convert every citizen to scientist or alternatively rush a settler every second turn.

I'll be away on holidays for next 4 days without internet access - I return on Sun evening.

Good luck

 

[juballs2001]

k i will play and post by tommorow

 

[Khan_Asparuh]

The stuff with gifting Otto is risky... I wonder if it won't be better to go in a no WW government, as we count mostly on Science farms for research, then let Ghandi take cities at will...

I think we had settled Hammerfest to be gifted. And wanted to be able to control ghandi for a while, so we have some infantries too.
To be seen.

Good luck Juballs.

 

[markh]

I think we will have no choice in changing governments at a certain point. We will face ww sooner or later.

I suggested to give Molde, too, but Hammer is good enough.

 

[juballs2001]

k guys, game is going good... unfortunately the power was out over here for in access of 5 hours, so i will be unable to post until tommorow afternoon...

 

[juballs2001]

alright guys this turnset was very mind boggling.

0
1130AD
- gifted molde to ghandi

1
1140AD
- bombers sent to barcelona
- gifted city recieved no reinforcements, worker moves toward city to lure ghandi toward other ring towns.

2
1150AD
- worker in position awaiting ghandi to build troops.

3
1160AD
- ghandi dosent take worker, fortifies spearman

IBT: comp in. rocketry in 4

4
1170AD
- bomber built, still no movement from ghandi

5
1180AD
- ghandi aint movin.... workers working to clear pollution and finish railways.

6
1190AD
- research labs being built, nothing from ghandi

7
1200AD
- still no movement

IBT: rocketry in, space flight in 5

8
1210AD
- no movement..

9
1220AD
- lost wines and wool from celts.
- all workers are fortified in a path leading to ghandis take over, dont know if they are right... yes i was bored, thats why i did this. still no movement

10
1230AD
- no movement
- traded computers, communism and 967 gold to ottomans for fission.


NOTES:
space flight in 3, i tried to get some extra scientists but failed miserably.. next person needs to re-distribute those specialists.
with some adjusting im sure space flight can be acheived in 2.
i fear ghandis lack of movement... maybe we should have given him a more prodctive city so he could have possibly built faster.

well good luck to whoever is next

 

[markh]

I got it. Will have a look at the save now.

 

[markh]

Here is my log :

1230AD : End of juballs' turns : fire some clowns and hire scientiss, but with max possible scientists and 100% research it is not possible to get space flight in 2

IBT : nothing

1) 1240AD : zzzz

IBT : nothing

2) 1250AD : zzzz

IBT : Space Flight is in -> Ecology in 4 at 80%

3) 1260AD : zzzz

IBT : spNew Hareid flips to the Celts

4) 1265AD : zzzz

IBT : nothing

5) 1270AD : zzzz

IBT : Ecology is in -> satellites in 4 at 80%

6) 1275AD : zzzz

IBT : India has learned Map Making

7) 1280AD : zzzz

IBT : We complete SETI

8) 1285AD : zzzz

IBT : Otto starts Universal Suffrage

9) 1290AD : zzzz

IBT : Satellites are in -> Synthetic Fibres in 4 at 80%

10) 1295AD : zzzz

We have 7.900 bucks in the kitty. We are at 4 turn research. Started to build tanks, bombers and Mech Infantries for the next campaign.

 

[AlanH]

lurker's comment: Are you guys aware of the announcement in the Maintenance Thread? Or are you not subscribed to it? It's up to you, of course, but you may find it helpful

 

[juballs2001]

well i assume andro is our team captain?

but he isnt here, said he would be away, so nobody play for a bit, and AlanH i guess you can edit ur save now.

 

[AlanH]

1295 AD, right? (strange date! )

Please don't download the save, or use any existing copy, until I post an update here.

 

[juballs2001]

1295 AD, right? (strange date! )

Please don't download the save, or use any existing copy, until I post an update here.

very strange lol

well we await your post Alan!

 

[AlanH]

Your updated save is here:

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/saves/sgotm9/Hagar_SG009_AD1295_02.SAV

 

[juballs2001]

thanks Alan!

Abegweit - Up! if here
IstariAsuka (waiting on computer)
Khan Asparuh - can take in 24 hrs if Abegweit dosent check in
Andronicus
juballs2001
markh - just played

 

[Abegweit]

I still have not recovered my civ3 disk. Hope to have it Tuesday. Please take it KA.

 

[juballs2001]

alright... then the save is up for khan when he gets this...

if istari shows up, please post in thread so we know whether you are MIA or available.

so:

Abegweit - still waiting on disk
IstariAsuka (waiting on computer)
Khan Asparuh - UP
Andronicus
juballs2001
markh - just played

 

[juballs2001]

Moderator Action: Hmm! We don't talk about that sort of thing on this forum. Sorry!