Grayarea said:
Joined settlers to Rome and Theveste
Grayarea, if you look at Carthage, Utica and Hippo, you'll find a common point; they don't have enough food to grow quickly. Of course they can grow, but it'll take many turns to reach their maximum growth.
On the other hand, Rome and Theveste can grow really quickly, that's why I thought that you knew where to join the settlers.
Personally, I'd join both settlers in Utica, so it can work ALL it's available tiles(coastal tiles included), build the Hoover sooner, Hospital then(with rushing after a turn), and IntelAgen & The Pentagon afterwards.
That's ok, I should have mentioned it. Anyway, we can join 6-8 workers, because we have enough of them. Rome and Theveste could be of assistant by build a worker now and then, so we also help Utica first, Carthage and especially Hippo(second).
Grayarea said:
In turn 7 we learned sanitation, but I did not switch Utica to hospital from hoover as that would have waisted 300+ shields.
Don't worry, you did the right thing; we'd built the Hospital AFTER Hoover.
NOTE: Before we complete Hoover in Utica, SELL all the coal-factories in all our cities; right click the icon and sell it on the city view.
Grayarea said:
Persia will not give gpt for tech why?
They're furious with us, and they also already paying us around 100gpt! I sold SM for 60gpt, and we also trade them 2 luxuries, so I don't know if they can afford it.
When I make trades, I'm a VERY hard dealer, and I usually take the most a civ can give(to the last penny), but that's also a reason for someone else to declare if he cannot afford to pay the gpt anymore(it's the only way to end the deal).
Grayarea said:
According to Civassist 20k in Utica in 1988
Yes, but Hoover, IntelAgen and Pentagon are on their way, so we'll finish some turns sooner.
Also, there're Modern Age Wonders that we can also built.
However, I'm sceptical if we should allow a UN vote, as by the time we built it, we'll be near the cultural victory(a sure victory).
Grayarea said:
1 KA
When I renewed trade deals I did not ask for more as I have done in the past as I understood we wanted to make everyone our firends for possible deplomacy win. When you renew without haggeling you get a rep increase. Is this correct?
I know that you get a better rep if you gift something, but you also increase your rep with a civ if you trade all the time with them.
But, to your particular question, I have no idea, but it's a trade, anyway.
EDIT: Grayarea, we have 2 more settlers! We have 1 in Theveste, and 1 in Hippo. I'd say, wait for Utica to build Hoover, then partly-rush a Hospital(wait 1 turn), and join both in Hippo after the hospital.
Other workers could join Hippo and Carthage(after the hospitals - I don't remember if Carthage already has one).
If you see that a city can't growth any further but still has tiles to work, irrigate and calculate how many irrigated tiles we need(FOOD) and how many more tiles the city city can work, just like Matternich said.
EDIT2: I think that with the 2 settlers we have and the many workers, we can fill Utica, Hippo and Carthage, after they get their Hospitals. We don't need to have more than 8-10 workers to clear 2-3 pollutioned tiles on the same turn, IMHO.