SGOTM5 - Team Smackster

[dmanakho]

Sorry, but no Settler can be built by us in this game. We need to time an attack so the "victim" have populated the area we need.

What i was thinking about... just a matter of habbit i guess...

and..... looks like we have to wait unspecified amount of time to fix a bug...

hopefully not too long..

@M-B: Ignore the sentence above and take your time fixing this, and again don't work to hard on holiday weekend, there are other things in life to enjoy

 

[Tarkeel]

Sorry for dropping of the face of the earth again there.. Had a routing PC-surgery go horribly wrong when my BIOS flash failed... But it's fixed again now

 

[smackster]

Just checking in, wont be able to play until Saturday night or Sunday morning maybe.

Can't really comment until I get back.

smackster

 

[dmanakho]

@Smackster: No worries, game is suspended anyway until M-B fixes some bugs... You can take your time, i don't think we will have to skip on our captain

 

[MjM]

Age:13
Birthdate: Oct. 13 1991
Born in: California USA
School: MMS (Margarita Middle School)

I started playing civ aurond June , a nice break from RTS.

There now you know about me , what about u guys?

 

[mad-bax]

OK guys your 1050BC save has been fixed and you can continue to play. You will need to download this save from the downloads page.

Once again I apologise for the inconvenience.

 

[MjM]

No problem , who's turn is it anyway?

 

[dmanakho]

@M-B: Our last turn was 1000BC. Did you make it 1050BC in purpose? Do we need to replay 2 last turns? (edit: on the second thought we never uploaded 1050BC save....) I hope there is no mistake with some other team's save file. Sumbission table entry shows 1000BC for out team, so you probably just made a type while copying pasting messages across the team's threads, but please confirm anyway.

@MjM: It Smackser's turn i beleive then Tomas JJ then you. Smackster will put a roster together when he shows up.

 

[mad-bax]

Sorry - cut and paste error from Peanuts team. Your save is the 1000BC save of course. Only your save can be loaded to your download slot.

 

[Tarkeel]

MjM: I'd wipe out the birthdate if I were you

23 here, from Bergen but studying in Trondheim (Both in Norway)

 

[smackster]

OK I've got it, will first have a good look as have not loaded it yet, I'll play it if I'm sure what to do.

I'm 37, Living in the Boston area but coming from England, moved here in 1997.

smackster

 

[smackster]

I've looked now, I'm not in favour of helping this AI, so I'm not going to trade for Poly yet. We are going to have to build our military and researching will be harder. I'm not sure of the tech progress after CoL, I guess going towards Chivalry, but do we research a government tech, as the AI may take some time to get there. However, if we got Poly and gift it to the AI somebody is sure to research Monarchy for us. I'm going to have to play some turns to get a better feel for this, but may stop in 3 turns to get some opinions.

I see now that we can't get to the AI to the SE, I didn't realise that first galley contact was a suicide. So going north is the only way, unless we get the Lighthouse, and we are not going to stop for that now are we. I'll probably report once I get that northern contact.

smackster

 

[dmanakho]

Ok, Smackster is back...

We are spamming so much in this thread, but if you look few posts back you will find Wotan's and mine suggestions

and as for my bio:
I am 31, born in Baku, Azerbaijan, Soviet Union, currently live in North Carolina, Triangle metro.
Occupation: Network Engineer
Married and have a 3 (soon to be 4) year old boy.

 

[smackster]

1000BC Not much to manipulate, well nothing actually

T1 975BC
Moscow horse->horse
Arabia and Celts disperse barb huts and have 25 gold.

Start to move the galleys, notice one is next to ocean, so send him east 3 squares to see what he can find (he can get back safely same turn), he comes across sea, right next to a big blob of blackness. Can there be another island there, do I risk his life, you might be able to see where he's gone on the mini-map below, I feel that there may be nothing there and will pull him back)

Move the galley to the north and meet India. They are short Horseback and MM, they know Spanish, Egyptians, and Americans.

Here is my logic in trading in this situation. I value contacts then maps and will hold them if I can, I value MM as that allows the AI to trade maps.
I pay cash, but not too much and rarely GPT.

I trade HBR for Egypt contact, 20 gold and territory map. Note they would not give American contact.
From Egypt I can get Spanish contact and 15 gold, but not America and no map, yet.
Spain also don't have Writing, but they will give us America contact and 6 gold for HBR.
America don't have much, but their land is bigger which is why they would not trade it. I get from them their Territory map and 25 gold.
Back to Spain and trade them Writing for their WM, which gets me most of the map up there. So far I've only given away HBR that these guys did not have, and that will do for now, they have a little bit of cash left but we can get that later.

Here is the map, India does look like a good target, I think its a no-brainer.

 

[smackster]

975BCcont
Original contact galley to the north of Scandy sees more land to the north, only barbs are there.

We move the worker, to work the road going north, don't need iron right now

T2 950BC
America come up with MM, so they are tech even with us, for sure its right to go north and take out India first.
Arabia has Poly.
Trade Writing to Celts for 25 gold. They would have got it soon anyway.

T3 925BCedit: forgot the header
We research CoL, now we have a choice of what to research next. I can't see any discussion.
We can get Poly (about 6 of them have it now) and then start Monarchy, Philosophy, Maths or Construction.
Literature is also available.

I would tend to Constuction or Currency and see if the AI can come up with any others for us.

I'm stopping at this point, until I get some feedback

 

[smackster]

I'll be back tonight, to finish the turns.

I played a couple more and am researching Maths.

smackster

 

[Wotan]

Currency is often OK to research and get a fair trade from. I do not know why the AI rarely research it early on? math is another tech the AI is fairly reluctant to research.

So first target: India. Palace in a location we are OK to abandon after war is declared on Arabia so we can jump palace to final location in Mecca. Delhi looks like a good spot for the FP to be handbuilt in. Maybe Karachi is the best spot for Palace since it is OK to abandon it wo too much lost from scrapping it?

Have I counted the AI correctly, so we have met everyone now?

 

[dmanakho]

Looks like India is the prime target.
Lets keep pumping those horses and ship them north..
Is there piece of land on northern continent that has not been claimed by nobody yet next to India to make it a landing point for our troops?
Very soon we will realize we can't keep research anymore because of the unit support, but at this time military take priority i believe.
We have to make sure we flip our capital to the exactly the city we want it to be at, i am not very good with palace jumping techniques even after the reading War academy articles.

 

[smackster]

Looks like India is the prime target.
Lets keep pumping those horses and ship them north..
Is there piece of land on northern continent that has not been claimed by nobody yet next to India to make it a landing point for our troops?
Very soon we will realize we can't keep research anymore because of the unit support, but at this time military take priority i believe.
We have to make sure we flip our capital to the exactly the city we want it to be at, i am not very good with palace jumping techniques even after the reading War academy articles.

I'm nearly finished, but have to play another turn.

There is a point near India where horses are going, however, I'm concerned that culture might eat it up.

The palace jumping will be easy don't worry, it can be tough when you have many big cities, but not in this case. Basically it goes to the biggest city, with some modifications for size of surrounding cities and troops in each city. But I'm sure CivAssist has a utility to make it perfect.

We should keep researching while we have lots of cash, but as we start to find we are losing too much may have to turn it down.

 

[smackster]

T4 900BC
Horse attacks barb and get elite upgrade.

Arabia and England have MM. So its on both continents. Still not trading it to others.

T5 875BC
The last galley gets to the ocean point, and goes that way, we don't need that many galleys. He does in fact find another island, although is left in sea for this turn.

Elite horse dropped off near India, there is a gap of land and from there we can get Bombay in one turn. I want to block settlers so will bring friends

Archer disperses barb camp

Note that the land found to the west is connected to Egypt.

T6 850BC
Major technology advance as the Aztecs come up with Alphabet


T7 825BC

Doink

T8 800BC
Move the archer back off the mountain to Moscow, so that he's in a central position if barbs come

T9 775BC

See two huts, one on the western land mass and one on the eastern Island.

T10 750BC

Note an American galley that is in the north moving east. Until the lighthouse they will still not get contacts.

Note I have not even traded maps to the north yet, awaiting America (the tech leader) to research something and then to take that from them.

In fact there is pleny of land NW of the landing spot, so sending the horses there. I'm quite sure Bombay will have no more than 2 spears.

There are two horses on their continent, there are two in transit at sea, there are two on our land. I suggest those 6 (two elites) are enough to take Bombay, with the additional Horses that will arrive at a steady pace, we can then move from there and take Lahore, while preparing for the battle for Delhi, and defending Bombay.