SGOTM5 - Team Smackster

So, are we gonna build the great lighthouse ourselves (and when?), or steal it?
 
Wotan said:
Not much use of the Colossus in Despotism. :( Only the fish tile and tiles with 1 gpt adds another gold, we sort of forgot about that I guess... :(
What does that mean exactly, I can't load the game to look, don't all our tiles produce commerce. Here is the wonder description

"+1 commerce in any square already producing commerce in that city. "

As I never build wonders, I don't really know what some of them do.

If we had not built it we would have done wealth, and that would have netted us about 20 gold, so it was better to build it. Heroic Epic doesn't sound much use if leaders can only build Armies

smackster
 
Smackster: Most of our tiles already produce 2 commerce (road+river), and then the third from colossus is lost due to despotism penalty.

I doubt we will have time to build the lighthouse ourself. Moscow needs to be churning out units.
 
Tarkeel said:
Smackster: Most of our tiles already produce 2 commerce (road+river), and then the third from colossus is lost due to despotism penalty.

I doubt we will have time to build the lighthouse ourself. Moscow needs to be churning out units.
I can't believe that, what kind of a useless wonder is that. Seems like that should have been changed a long time ago, to make it worth building. Well even at 2GPT we haven't lost anything.
 
Tarkeel said:
Colossus will be very handy to have once out of despotism, and I feel it was the right choice. Much better then Heroic Epic, which we will get no matter what. Great Lighthouse would be very handy to have as well...

I was thinking of sending the galley eastwards.
East is good, and we need to build a couple more galleys.

I'm hoping that we'll have a new Capital when we get a new government, so wont really be able to utilise this wonder.

At 400 shields I can't see us building the Great Lighthouse. We don't even know if we need it to get across sea and even if we do, better to build a few more galleys and ship chain.
 
Roster
dman (playing)
Wotan (on deck)
smackster (in New York)
tomasjj (in london)
MjM (on the beach)
Tarkeel (up a mountain, sorry first thing that came into my head)

Now I look at the roster, we may need to skip tomasjj. Unless Wotan and tomasjj swap in the roster, we can make it permanent.

What say ye tomasjj? Can you play it in the AM Thursday? Wotan are you happy to swap, I don't want to upset you or anything, but I would like us all to have played some of these turns.

smackster
 
Sorry, but I dont think I will be able to as my girl wants some attention too.
I also want to take my time when playing, so that I enjoy it more and do well.
So I wont be able to play until tuesday afternoon, like 1700 CET.

After that, no trips planned and I can stay in the loop :)
 
You guys consider ship chaining to be ok, and no exploit then?

Just checking...
 
tomasjj said:
You guys consider ship chaining to be ok, and no exploit then?

Just checking...
We just follow the rules. You could argue that this one should be banned, I would argue that it should not, but as its allowed we should use it.
 
tomasjj said:
Sorry, but I dont think I will be able to as my girl wants some attention too.
I also want to take my time when playing, so that I enjoy it more and do well.
So I wont be able to play until tuesday afternoon, like 1700 CET.

After that, no trips planned and I can stay in the loop :)
OK, I'll just leave the order as is and skip you when you come up.

smackster
 
Yes a picture would be nice, I note that I was the last player to post one.

Looking at some of the other threads from SGOTM4, some teams never posts pictures, and I'm not going to load their saves, which makes their threads very uninteresting. Remember we have to provide entertainment to the peanut gallery, for bonus points.

smackster
 
smackster said:
OK, I'll just leave the order as is and skip you when you come up.

smackster

Thanks.

And, I have no issues regarding ship chaining - just wondered what the common norm here was.

By the way, I am 34 years old, civil servant for the moment, social anthropologist by profession. :)
Then you know who you are hanging out with.


JJ
 
Just finished my game... This is super....
Will post report with pictures in few minutes
Stay tuned....
 
Pre-turn: Switch Moscow to galley and move citizen from forest to lake to maximize food. Galley will be ready in 3 turn.

T1. 1475BS. Moving scout away from approaching barb. Archer is heading back to Moscow.

T2. 1450BC. Barb appears near luxury colony. Archer is moved from Moscow to protect, luxury has to be raised to 20%.

T3. 1425BC. Scout runs away from barbs... I won't be able to pick him up any time soon. Moscow - Galley->Galley.

T4. 1400BC. Lux slider is back to 10%. Scout spotted another barb camp.

T5. 1375BC. The silk land south from us is an island. Science slider down to 70%

T6. 1350BC. Moscow galley->Barracks and it grows in size. Lux slider is up to 20%. MM and Moscow builds barracks in 3 turns. I've only now noticed we have differential naval movement. Science slider is down to 60%

T7. 1325BC This is the historical day for Russian nation. We learned we are not alone in this world. :band:
Galley crossed ocean south from Silk Island and we met Zulus. They know Vikings, Chinese and Mongols. They have Masonry, IW, Myst., HBR.
Asking for the audience with Shaka. Sell them Alphabet + World map for C. with Chinese + Territory map+17Gold
Now it’s time to go to China. Same trick. Alphabet + World map for C. with Vikings + Territory map+12Gold
Now go to Vikings... Vikings are the gold mine. They know about Iroquois, Japanese, English and yes, Mongols.
Since I am not sure whether Mongols now about first three in the list above I will trade contact with Iroquois.
Crap. Vikings won't sell me contacts with nobody but Mongols… So I am taking it. C. with Mongols + WM + 8Gold is bought for Alphabet + WM
I am asking to see king Ragnar again. This time we buy contact with the English + 2gold for writing.
Wow. In addition to all above mentioned nations Liz also knows about Arabs, French and Celts.
May I see you Liz??? She is in a good mood today and I bought contact with Celts and Arabs for c. with Zulu, Chinese + 20gold + WM.
It's time to meet our Arab friends. We give them Writing and WM in exchange of C. with French and Iroquois +WM +3gold.
I am going to Iroquois. Another trade and we buy c. with Japs + WM for C with Zulu +WM
Hey Shogun!! Have anything to sell??? I am giving them all contacts + Writing and WM for Myst., Masonry, IW +46 gold +WM
I am getting a little dizzy right now... :dubious:
It is time to see Celts. Oh my. They know Aztecs. They are happy to give us C with Monty + WM for C. with Arabs, French and Vikings.
We have iron on the mountain next to the beaver. Worker will finish road in 1 turn and I am sending it down there to establish a colony.
I went trough all the AIs again and bankrupted them selling communications and wm for all the gold they have.
It is time to hit next turn.

IBT: Arabs are building an Oracle

T8. 1300BC. Moscow barracks->horse. MM Moscow and it yields 15spt. to get horse in 2 turns. I am making executive decision to disband our scout.

T9. 1275BC. Archer kills barb. Visited every AI... all broke but England.. Sold Liz our WM for her WM and 36 gold

T10. 1250BC. Dispersed barb camp. There is another one to get rid of. Oops... I messed up our research... I've only noticed it is off and I put it back to 10% on mathematics... Wotan fell free to change.

Not sure about my communication skills, but here we go. We know most of the nations and we have only one tech -Map Making nobody else has. At the moment i have no fresh ideas on what to do, i am simply going to finish my turns.. I do expect a big discussion ahead of us.

Save: here

Somebody complained on the lack of maps, so here we go.
Maps:

SGOTM51250BCSTSW.jpg


SGOTM51250BCSMM.jpg


SGOTM51250BCSTNE.jpg
 
This is good, very wierd map, I like to try to starve them of Contacts, but I guess you probably had to give that away. This game is going to be over pretty quickly. Now its time to take over.

I might not actually get to this until Saturday now, but I think that is not such a bad thing so that we have time to think about it. There is a chance I can do it tomorrow night.

smackster
 
I figured that since they are all on the same weirdly shaped continent they will find out about each other rather sooner than later...
That is why i sold contacts. It only make sense to keep AIs from knowing each other when they separated by an ocean and won't learn about each other in a long time.
Wotan plays next and i guess all he can do at a moment is building an attacking force and may be start shipping it down south.
China or Zulu can become our 1st targets since they are the closest ones.

EDIT: I am sure Wotan will show up in 1hour30minutes when it is about 6am in Sweden.... He will either love me or hate me :rolleyes:
 
And just to remind you, we met many but not all civilizations....
 
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