SGOTM7 - Team Chunky

[Baalzebul]

The instant transfer is not working because they' re bombing and destroying our ships there. I had to withdraw our remaining forces (a few frigates only) to Iznik.

Mach is up I think. One more thing. We don't have much time left so we have to play as fast as possible.

 

[Mach]

Is it mine? Traditionally Khan comes after Baal, I thought we just had a switch of sorts when Khan came back from vacation... Well, if it's mine, then I'll try to play tonight.

 

[Khan_Asparuh]

I'm kinda lost... Where is the roster? I totally forgot it.
It's messy. You haven't played since my last turns so I guess you're up, Mach, then it's me. Have fun and leave me some artys to play with Persia please.

 

[Mach]

Ok, one order of arty coming up tonight. Would you like fries with that?

I guess you and I switched places, Khan, so roster would look like this now:
Mach
Khan
Chunky
Baal

 

[Mach]

Preflight (1725AD)
Actually, I think it's absolutely more cost effective to steal techs -- the price of Refining is 3333gp, whereas a careful steal is 1939gp. We have exactly 100 scientists (giving us 379bpt), so if we switched them to taxmen we'd be making 286gpt, which is a steal in 7 turns, compared to researching in 9 turns.

However, we've already invested a turn into researching refining, so I leave it on. But we might want to turn it off after this. I put sci down to 0%, giving us 300bpt and 86gpt, so we have money in the kitty for planting spies and sabatoging stuff.

All these calcs were pre-mm...

Ok, mm done.
(I) OOh, there are so many american bombers in New Orleans...
Our infantry army gets redlined, but it survives.

T1 (1730AD)
Bomb down a pair of fancy American machines. Kill 'em with sipahi. 2-0
Kill 2 persian infantry and take back a pair of our cannon. 4-0
Completely redline an American fleet, but there's no frigates around to sink 'em.
Refining in 8.
(I) Infantry army does better this time. An American carrier retreats because I took 1hp off it, heh.

T2 (1735AD)
Kill 2 more Persian infantry and take back 2 more cannon. 6-0
(I) 2 American mechs and a tank show up, Viking fleet is retreating.

T3 (1740AD)
Bomb the tank and kill it. 7-0
...and the two mechs. 9-0
...and two Persian infantries, winning back another pair of cannon. 11-0
(I) Two more American mechs

T4 (1745AD)
Bomb and kill the two mechs. 13-0
...and three Persian infantries, winning back another three cannon. 16-0
Offensive troops are running a bit thin, though...
Move 3 new infantries into New Hope.
Sucessfully plant spy in America!!!
Um...immediately sabatoging Atlanta's build will cost over 4000gp...we don't even have a quarter of that...
I spend half our money investigating the city; the build will be done in 11 turns.
It's no use; if we turn all our scientists into taxmen, we could only earn 3000gp in the next 11 turns, just not enough. It's all over.
(I) Ooh, an American battleship!
We get a respite...no new attackers...

T5 (1750AD)
(I) Lose two frigates. 16-2
Americans land a mech.

T6 (1752AD)
Kill the mech and 2 persians, taking back another 2 cannon. 19-2

I stop here, since I'm getting tired, just in case any of you guys can think of something, but I don't seen any way we can raise over 5000gp for the immediate sabatoge, and even if we could we would have killed our research... (Two turns ago the sabatoge was 4400gp, and now it's 4700gp...)

Atlanta

 

[chunkymonkey]

Oh well...

Lets just keep going. The only hope we have is the AI unwillingness to actually call votes, although I doubt that will happen here.

I'm off for to my girlfriend's for the weekend. Catch you guys later. Somebody finish it off in style!

 

[Khan_Asparuh]

Wrong link, Mach, this is one of Mathias games I think.
Anyways. I'll try to play tonight, if not certainly tomorrow morning.
I hope I can find a way to give us some time, or at least die in honor.
Look at the good side of the things, at least we'll be the best loser of this game. We must be able to go on the 4th place I think, right after the winners.
I think the difference between C3C and Vanilla/PTW was too big...

 

[Baalzebul]

Damn it. There is only one way left I think. Go and try to destroy Atlanta Khan. I know we won't be succesful but this game deserves this.

 

[Khan_Asparuh]

Actually I think that if we manage to mobilize America would be enough. I'll try to lift up the level of losses they suffer, this may work... I hope... Going for Atlanta is impossible, we'll never be able to land enough units through their defenses, neither hold for a hit turn. This is out of question IMO.
I'll most likely play tomorrow morning, time for some input (ideas and so on). I think that AI mobilization is our last slight chance. But don't know how to force them going in (razing cities, killing units and so on I guess). Any personnal experience someone? And I hope UN isn't military (go figure).
I'll wait to see Atlanta's picture when Mach arranges the link...

 

[Mach]

Heh, fixed the link, sorry guys...

I don't think it's possible to go after Atlanta, we don't have many galleons left, and there are too many roving frigates and destroyers around to get anywhere.

 

[Khan_Asparuh]

Force the AI to mobilize... Meditate on this I will...

 

[Baalzebul]

We don' t have even 11 turns. There is a polluted square so it will take 8 turns if another city does not use it.

 

[Khan_Asparuh]

Only atlanta is near that tile, and it's mined. Bad. Too bad. TM

 

[Khan_Asparuh]

SGOTM7
(0) 1752 AD
The situation is bad, but we can still harm the enemy. I bomb a bit the American navy, then pull out the armies from New Hope to cover some workers rebuilding the road. Rush a galleon in New Iznik. Rush the barracks in New Hope, even for a single turn it’s worth for rifle upgrades.
(IBT) Bombings.
(1) 1754 AD
Bomb and kill persian infantry on the mountain, capture an arty. Deliver 8 more artilleries in New Hope, their galleons are probably dead. Bomb New Orleans, but don’t strike. Will try again with combined arty/cannon force. Refining still in 3???
(IBT) Gallions die.
(2) 1756 AD
Sink Viking Cruiser, yeah. Kill 4 TOW in New Orleans, lose a sipahi army.
(IBT) Bombing on our Infantry army sends down to 1HP. Americans land 4 tanks, TOW and MI.
(3) 1758 AD
Skirmishes.
(IBT) Amphibious attack on New Hope. I wonder why the defender was an elite rifle while there are infantries in the city.Refining – ironclads. Don’t ask why.
(4) 1760 AD
Skirmishes, naval battles etc.
(IBT) Viking morons send 4 ships with a single zerk for amphibious attack on New Hope.
(5) 1762 AD
Fights, cannon captures etc. Not seeing how can I change the game outcome I don’t count anymore.
(IBT) Atlanta builds UN.

Thank you guys, even if we've lost this game I had a lot of fun... Thanks to MadBax for setting this wonderfully...
Just click EoT.

 

[Khan_Asparuh]

Weird. The submission page still shows the 1752 save... I hope I haven't done anything wrong... I've got the "Diplo loss to America" message and still... God I hate losing on Civ...

 

[chunkymonkey]

Hey dude don't worry so much about the loss. Remember right at the beginning of the game we thought we wouldn't have a chance, and I'm very impressed we managed to get as far as we did. It is AWD, after all.

There were a couple of moments I thought we might have had it in the bag, but I think we were just given some bad luck.

Anyway, it was probably one of the most entertaining games of Civ I've ever played, there were lots of interesting twists, and I think I've become a more effective warmonger - not that that's going to help us in SGOTM8 (for the first 200 turns anyway!).

Hopefully Alan will accept the submission as being before the deadline. It's nice to be officially recognised, even if we were the best losers!

 

[Baalzebul]

Thanks to everyone. This was one the best games I've ever played. I learned many things from this game. We made a few mistakes but our overall performance was great and we were very unlucky. Thanks again.

 

[Khan_Asparuh]

I've missed this. What deadline?

 

[chunkymonkey]

Fromt the maintenance thread:

CDZ and Chunky have still to complete the game, and I believe Own have disbanded. These teams are free to complete their games and submit more saves. I shall announce the awards at the end of the month, when we shall also start the next SGOTM.

Not that we'll be getting any award or anything but its nice to have a position in the results table.

 

[AlanH]

Well done, Guys. This one was a toughie, and you survived a lot longer than some.

You beat my "deadline", but the bar never actually comes down on submissions. And the final save dosn't show currently because I'm preparing the page to display the awards, and while the game is "in progress" the final saves are hidden. I'll be releasing the full picture very shortly.