Should Ideologies unlock automatically?

[pjotroos]

I feel like democracy should get the economy bonus, maybe giving happiness to fascism. All three ideologies were ostensibly concerned with making their people happy.

Yeah. That would be better balance game-wise, and better thematically - given that negative happiness equals dissent and riots, and there's one ideology particularly good at trying to suppress that.

 

[tman2000]

Yeah. That would be better balance game-wise, and better thematically - given that negative happiness equals dissent and riots, and there's one ideology particularly good at trying to suppress that.

It's the hijacking of pre-modern institutions and binding them to state power to accommodate the demands of modernity. While there's a "German economic miracle" it's actually lack of resources that inhibited their takeover of Eastern Europe.

Rethinking it, Communism is the only ideology that seeks to fully erase, rather than repurpose, culture. Communism is also better at popular solidarity and more likely to avoid dissent, right?

If you think of it as there are six qualities: happiness, combat, production, gold, culture and science - each ideology is the only ideology good at one of them, and the only ideology bad at one of them.

Fascism: good Science, bad Production. (wunderwaffen vs hordes)
Communism: good Happiness, bad Culture. (solidarity by erasing differences)
Democracy: good Gold, bad Combat. (freedom brings wealth, but people have more to lose in dying and less will to fight)

Fascism: happiness -, combat +, production -, gold -, culture +, science +.

Communism: happiness +, combat +, production +, gold -, culture -, science -.

Democracy: happiness -, combat -, production +, gold +, culture +, science -.

 

[AriochIV]

I don't see any advantage to the Ideologies and I have largely ignored them.

 

[Nic@Melbourne]

Have been meaning to post similar sentiment.

Best solution. Modern crisis: once reached if you haven’t picked an ideology yet, you are forced to do so.
Maybe early game, ideologies only create minor diplomatic penalty then it increase once crisis threshold is reach.

 

[King of Prussia]

I quite liked Civ 5s both rewards for being early adopters and having it automatically unlock via 3 factories. 7 doesnt have to do exactly the same, but i think following a similar path would be good.

In general i dont think the ideologies are worth the headaches, the boosts arent good enough, and the game ends too fast for them to matter.

 

[Taefin]

Someone said something to this effect, but a diplomatic action “join my ideology” would get everyone into ideology sooner and create options for friction (maybe a large relationship, but no/small influence cost, to reject).

 

[reddishrecue]

What difficulty level you're playing on? I sometimes could get away without wars on Immortal, but it's not often. And on Deity if you don't pick ideology, you just get attacked by everyone.

You do? I was playing on viceroy. I haven't been able to play single player that often but when I do play I've played on multiplayer. However, I've been playing civ 6 more since they're more people on multiplayer.