Should you report Cannibis dealing?

[Timsup2nothin]

I think the criminalization of cannabis is more destructive. The caveat is that we should help convince teens and young adults to delay consumption, since that's where we see the observable damage.

You should drop the dime on a dealer if he's bringing down your neighbourhood, since he might be scummy in other ways. OR if he's a piece of trash (i.e., violent). If he's merely a dealer who doesn't work 'cause he makes money dealing ... ehn.

Write your politician saying you think it should be decriminalized.

"Dropping the dime" is violence. Let's not pretend that violence by remote is somehow noble, while calling people who are more direct "trash".

 

[thecrazyscot]

The guy next door to my parents was dealing. I told him that if anything disappeared around my parents house I was not going to root among his clientele looking for it, I was just going to hold him responsible to either return it, replace it, or suffer for it. His clients were uniformly respectful of my mother and her property.

I said "can", not "will". I suspect you would have felt differently had his clientele been more criminally minded towards his neighbors.

 

[warpus]

Depending on where you live, cops might not care about the dealing. I doubt they would care here.

People smoking up the lobby though, sounds like you need to talk to your landlord.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I said "can", not "will". I suspect you would have felt differently had his clientele been more criminally minded towards his neighbors.

You seem to be operating from the assumption that dealers have no control over their clients. The truth is quite the opposite, I assure you.

 

[thecrazyscot]

I'm fully aware of that. All I'm saying is that IF the dealer and/or his clientele had behaved differently, your reaction would have been different. Just because one dealer didn't cause problems doesn't mean every dealer is that way.

 

[Triewd]

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/drugs/Pages/Cannabiscasestudy.aspx

http://www.drugscope.org.uk/resources/faqs/faqpages/how-much-crime-is-drug-related

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...er-tells-harmless-drug-tore-family-apart.html

 

[Triewd]

The only thing I am really sure I would report my neighbors for is serial murder. If a person can't find a better way to deal with neighbors being disruptive than calling the cops they need to be a hermit.

Thats a little unfair for several reasons.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm fully aware of that. All I'm saying is that IF the dealer and/or his clientele had behaved differently, your reaction would have been different. Just because one dealer didn't cause problems doesn't mean every dealer is that way.

No, I just would have put him out of business and dealt with the fallout. But drug dealers are by and large a fairly cooperative and nonconfrontational lot, so we are wandering into the region of 'wild hypotheticals'. Had his clientele turned out to be hostile space aliens things would have turned out differently as well.

 

[El_Machinae]

"Dropping the dime" is violence. Let's not pretend that violence by remote is somehow noble, while calling people who are more direct "trash".

It's nothing to do with nobility.

Once a person agrees to create a world ruled by violence, then it's a question of who has the most violence capacity.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Thats a little unfair for several reasons.

Unfair to who?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

It's nothing to do with nobility.

Once a person agrees to create a world ruled by violence, then it's a question of who has the most violence capacity.

So by calling the cops you are declaring "this world is ruled by violence and here is my capacity". You are right, there is nothing noble about it, which is what I said.

 

[BvBPL]

I second others who have said that this should be focused on preventing inconvenience to you rather than a question of responsibility to report others.

Is this a question of private use or dealing? If the person is regularly inviting others over for drug deals than that speaks to a responsible interest to prevent a safety threat to yourself. That would endorse calling the police.

If your neighbor is just a pot head and the common areas stink because of that then why not simply ask him to modify his behavior in a manner that doesn't cause the common area to smell like a skunk? That's a neighborly way of addressing your concerns without creating a hostile environment from calling the cops on them.

If it is just a question of personal use than the most likely result from police action would be your neighbor's arrest, his near immediate release, and potentially some bad blood between the two of you. Doing that might not even serve the personal interest in keeping the hallway fragrance free.

You can also bring it up w/ your landlord.

 

[thecrazyscot]

No, I just would have put him out of business and dealt with the fallout. But drug dealers are by and large a fairly cooperative and nonconfrontational lot, so we are wandering into the region of 'wild hypotheticals'. Had his clientele turned out to be hostile space aliens things would have turned out differently as well.

And how would you have put him out of business?

How many drug dealers do you know to be able to say "by and large"?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

And how would you have put him out of business?

How many drug dealers do you know to be able to say "by and large"?

I was in a prison with 1500 population, of which roughly one third were there on drug charges. I spent some part of my youth in the drug trade and met lots back then. Currently I know a dozen or so, with passing acquaintance through them to a few times that many more.

As to putting him out of business, simple thuggery.

 

[El_Machinae]

So by calling the cops you are declaring "this world is ruled by violence and here is my capacity". You are right, there is nothing noble about it, which is what I said.

In my defense, it's a counter-thrust. It's to be used against those who create a world ruled by violence.

If your cannabis dealer is maintaining turf with a bat, he's helping create that world.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

In my defense, it's a counter-thrust. It's to be used against those who create a world ruled by violence.

The world was ruled by violence long before there were drug dealers.

 

[El_Machinae]

True, and then there are people who perpetuate the cycle.

You'll note I didn't suggest calling the cops on a cannabis dealer, I suggested calling the cops if he was violent trash.

There's a vast difference between the mom & pop operation and the biker gang operation.

 

[illram]

Moral question with several off shoots:

1 Is cannabis destructive to society?

2 Does it cause things like vehicle crime?

3 Will there be blowout from this?

I don't like snitching on people so I haven't yet.

Your thoughts?

1. No
2. Not directly
3. From you calling the cops on someone? Probably not but you never know.

If I had a neighbor who was stinking up the place I'd talk to them first.

 

[thecrazyscot]

I was in a prison with 1500 population, of which roughly one third were there on drug charges. I spent some part of my youth in the drug trade and met lots back then. Currently I know a dozen or so, with passing acquaintance through them to a few times that many more.

As to putting him out of business, simple thuggery.

Interesting...did you find there to be a difference between drug dealers who sold "hard" drugs and those who sold cannabis?

I don't think I would leave my parents' safety up to simple thuggery. I would prefer to make sure the environment as a whole were cleaned up and known to be...less than conducive to drug dealers. If it were just me, it would take a lot more for me to to anything about it.

 

[BvBPL]

If I had a neighbor who was stinking up the place I'd talk to them first.

If you bring some freshly baked cookies with you then you're sure to get a positive response from your neighbor.