Should you report Cannibis dealing?

[Timsup2nothin]

True, and then there are people who perpetuate the cycle.

You'll note I didn't suggest calling the cops on a cannabis dealer, I suggested calling the cops if he was violent trash.

There's a vast difference between the mom & pop operation and the biker gang operation.

Yeah, there is. When you violently put mom and pop out of business there are no repercussions outside your own conscience, whereas when you violently put the bikers out of business there might be.

 

[El_Machinae]

Fewer locals getting abused?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Interesting...did you find there to be a difference between drug dealers who sold "hard" drugs and those who sold cannabis?

I don't think I would leave my parents' safety up to simple thuggery. I would prefer to make sure the environment as a whole were cleaned up and known to be...less than conducive to drug dealers. If it were just me, it would take a lot more for me to to anything about it.

I'm very proficient at simple thuggery, no worries. I'm not sure what you mean by 'cleaned up' though. The drug dealer was for the most part a very good neighbor. Far better than, for example, an empty by day grumpy by night commuter stronghold, or the vastly worse unsupervised teenagers by day, grumpy commuters by night. Both of those are fairly common hereabouts.

To your question. There is quite a difference at the street level depending on the product, because at the street level most dealers are in some way directly influenced by the product, but above that the differences are pretty small as far as personalities. The logistics vs value balance has some impact. People who move significant cannabis run into more problems with bulk, where people who move significant amounts of denser product run into more security issues.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Fewer locals getting abused?

Bikers are generally abusive at their hangouts, not their places of business. But again, when we enter into the realm of 'biker gang dealing out of suburban household' we are too deep into the wild hypothetical to have a really sensible analysis.

 

[Hygro]

Ask your neighbor to bake to get baked and to vape to get blazed. It's a disruptive odor if you don't want to smell it. Fortunately, unlike with tobacco, it clears very convincingly very fast.

 

[warpus]

- Grab a roll of toilet paper, remove all toilet paper
- Stuff a bunch of fleece fabric softener sheets in there
- Exhale through your new magical marijuana smoke to lemony scent converter

 

[Hygro]

One of my residents did that when I was an RA. Worked well.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

- Grab a roll of toilet paper, remove all toilet paper
- Stuff a bunch of fleece fabric softener sheets in there
- Exhale through your new magical marijuana smoke to lemony scent converter

How long will that work before you have to reload it?

 

[thecrazyscot]

I'm very proficient at simple thuggery, no worries. I'm not sure what you mean by 'cleaned up' though. The drug dealer was for the most part a very good neighbor. Far better than, for example, an empty by day grumpy by night commuter stronghold, or the vastly worse unsupervised teenagers by day, grumpy commuters by night. Both of those are fairly common hereabouts.

To your question. There is quite a difference at the street level depending on the product, because at the street level most dealers are in some way directly influenced by the product, but above that the differences are pretty small as far as personalities. The logistics vs value balance has some impact. People who move significant cannabis run into more problems with bulk, where people who move significant amounts of denser product run into more security issues.

Huh...TIL!

 

[warpus]

@Tim I have no idea, to be honest. Until it stops working.

 

[Borachio]

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/drugs/Pages/Cannabiscasestudy.aspx

http://www.drugscope.org.uk/resources/faqs/faqpages/how-much-crime-is-drug-related

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...er-tells-harmless-drug-tore-family-apart.html

I notice the two stories featuring cannabis users, who stole, involve underage people, who may well have a problem funding their hobby. It's also not a good idea to start smoking anything, never mind cannabis, at that age.

But my understanding of cannabis is that it doesn't tend to be an expensive thing to buy when compared to street heroin or cocaine, which are not only very much more expensive (being amongst other things, Class A drugs - cannabis is Class C), but also very much more addictive. A broke cannabis user can certainly forego his drug without too much trouble, while a broke heroin user will likely be prepared to take any steps to get money - including mugging, theft, and prostitution.

I notice, too, that your second link doesn't mention cannabis.

Now, I don't recommend cannabis use to anyone (it's probably just another case of people expecting something for nothing if you ask me - and I know you don't). But, as recreational drugs go, it's possibly one of the least harmful. It does have certain risks (mild paranoia being the most common), but then what doesn't?

 

[Timsup2nothin]

@Tim I have no idea, to be honest. Until it stops working.

Hmmmm. There are commercial applications to removing the smell of cannabis. You have given me something that bears investigation. Thanks.

 

[thecrazyscot]

Hmm...I sense some "research" might occur pretty soon here...

 

[warpus]

And don't forget to stick your creation on pinterest (where I got the idea in the first place, a couple hours ago, yeah, you might as well believe me)

 

[Triewd]

http://www.cmcr.ucsd.edu/images/pdfs/WAPost_050102.pdf

http://www.cnbc.com/id/36465700

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/drugs/marijuana.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-safe-recreational-marijuana/

Some more links

I have to tell you they are quite convincing.

 

[Borachio]

I was reading up on cannabis factories a couple of years ago. There's all sorts of commercial products out there for sale, perfectly legally of course. Since everyone knows no one would possibly invest £5,000 on equipment for growing anything other than sweet peppers all year round in the attic! One of the "problems" that was addressed directly, iirc, was the elimination of the smell of your growing crop.

http://www.cmcr.ucsd.edu/images/pdfs/WAPost_050102.pdf

http://www.cnbc.com/id/36465700

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/drugs/marijuana.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-safe-recreational-marijuana/

Some more links

I have to tell you they are quite convincing.

So, you're pretty "anti-cannabis use" then, Mr Triewd, I take it.

But tell me, how does it compare with alcohol? Just in terms of global harm, that is.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I was reading up on cannabis factories a couple of years ago. There's all sorts of commercial products out there for sale, perfectly legally of course. Since everyone knows no one would possibly invest £5,000 on equipment for growing anything other than sweet peppers all year round in the attic! One of the "problems" that was addressed directly, iirc, was the elimination of the smell of your growing crop.

The fact that such equipment is available does not mean that the search to improve technology in this area has stopped.

 

[Hygro]

I have to tell you they are quite convincing.

Confirmation bias?

 

[Triewd]

BOTH have ruined the lives of people in my opinion.


Of course cannabis plants or at least Hemp was grown by the founding fathers but I digress

 

[Triewd]

Confirmation bias?

don't accuse me of bias/ confirming my world view thanks.......

Present the alternate argument.