Simply too imbalanced, spoilers include

[scottfreitas]

PS Guare: if, by chance, you have probs converting the converted native to be able to fight alongside your other colonists, just let me know. I'm off all day Friday, and would post a reply here explaining how to do it (since I'd have full access to the actual game code, and wouldn't have to guess at file names).

Playing around with XML files is more fun than any human being should be allowed to have....

 

[scottfreitas]

Yes. The problem its that the original colo was a perfect and completely balanced game. I dont mind if they want to change some things, but i expected that they make some sense.

For example I cant understand the new Horse production system or the simplified terrain.

Also the ending was better on the original, I loved that photo with all the colonist and the scoring system where they give a name to something in your honor. When i finally won the independence war i expected someting more.

I hate to be cynical, but for the first time ever I think the great Sid Meier just rushed a game out the door to make a quick buck.

Very anti-climactic, after waiting 14 years. For instance: the beauty, the elegance, the real-time excitement of the "alarm" system used by the Natives in Col1 should have (and could have) been carried over. Does anyone remember how PRECISE that system was? You could move just one Dragoon past a village and watch the green exclamation point super-imposed atop a village change shades. Move several dragoons, there would be MULTIPLE exclamation points. They'd go from green to blue to yellow to red, with a HUGE amount of varying shades in between. They reacted to the movements of your troops, and the closeness of your cities, in constant real-time fashion. GOD how I miss that. Never saw a better, more interesting AI warning system in any game, ever...

The good news: the fans of Col1 CAN--and I hope, will--customize this new, prettier version to be every bit as good as the original, in different ways.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

Yes. The problem its that the original colo was a perfect and completely balanced game. I dont mind if they want to change some things, but i expected that they make some sense.

For example I cant understand the new Horse production system or the simplified terrain.

Also the ending was better on the original, I loved that photo with all the colonist and the scoring system where they give a name to something in your honor. When i finally won the independence war i expected someting more.

I agree with everything you say.

The new horse production system and the simplified terrain suck. And I also miss the colonialization score picture. "Wow, did I have that many fur trappers? And where does that convict live - I thought they had all been promoted to better things!"

And the movies are so stupid that I disabled them. The final one showing a cringeing British officer handing over the act of capitulation to an American officer proudly sitting on his horse is particularly annoying. For one thing, there definitely was a proper capitulation ceremony, since the officers on both sides were gentlemen, and for another, this short little item is so obviously something they told an "artist" to slap together in a day or two. On top of it, it's so childish. How old was the guy responsible for that extremely brief capitulation "movie" - fourteen?

Mind you, the jerky, crappy movies at the beginning and after your declaration of independence aren't very impressive either. Even that was handled better in the original game: the initial animation showing a ship navigating mysterious waters filled with mermaids and sea monsters to a very haunting tune until the ship reaches the New (and completely unknown) World, and then we hear a catchy western tune instead; the announcement of your DoI made by that frontier type adviser; the final scene showing jubilant people, fireworks and people throwing stones at the sign of the King's Head Inn - nothing more was needed, actually.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

I hate to be cynical, but for the first time ever I think the great Sid Meier just rushed a game out the door to make a quick buck.

Very anti-climactic, after waiting 14 years. For instance: the beauty, the elegance, the real-time excitement of the "alarm" system used by the Natives in Col1 should have (and could have) been carried over. Does anyone remember how PRECISE that system was? You could move just one Dragoon past a village and watch the green exclamation point super-imposed atop a village change shades. Move several dragoons, there would be MULTIPLE exclamation points. They'd go from green to blue to yellow to red, with a HUGE amount of varying shades in between. They reacted to the movements of your troops, and the closeness of your cities, in constant real-time fashion. GOD how I miss that. Never saw a better, more interesting AI warning system in any game, ever...

You make me weep. Yes, that was ANOTHER fantastic feature in Col I. Considering how primitive computer games were in those days, it's amazing how much variety and depth and interest they managed to pack into the game.

Considering how easy it is, from a technical point of view, to produce a game with many features and lots of depth today... oh, well. Enough said.

 

[Cela]

And the movies are so stupid that I disabled them. The final one showing a cringeing British officer handing over the act of capitulation to an American officer proudly sitting on his horse is particularly annoying. For one thing, there definitely was a proper capitulation ceremony, since the officers on both sides were gentlemen, and for another, this short little item is so obviously something they told an "artist" to slap together in a day or two. On top of it, it's so childish. How old was the guy responsible for that extremely brief capitulation "movie" - fourteen?

Yeah. I didn't want to speak about that since im not british or American, I´m Spanish, but I dont like that those movies are completely oriented to show the American revolution. I would prefer different movies for each country or at least that they were more neutral. Its just a small detail but it will be great.

But dont misunderstand me. This Colo its not a bad game, Its a good game but the original was a Masterpiece (for me more balanced and perfect that the original Civilization) All changes had to be taken with extra care to not imbalance the game.

 

[Öjevind Lång]

But dont misunderstand me. This Colo its not a bad game, Its a good game but the original was a Masterpiece (for me more balanced and perfect that the original Civilization) All changes had to be taken with extra care to not imbalance the game.

I know. There were many of us who expected a game that was as good as, or even better than, the original. Instead, we got one of those games that get put away fairly soon... not least by the game reviewers in those on line game magazines, I suspect.

 

[Dwarfskinner]

I know. There were many of us who expected a game that was as good as, or even better than, the original. Instead, we got one of those games that get put away fairly soon... not least by the game reviewers in those on line game magazines, I suspect.

Here's hoping they won't butcher Alpha Centauri v2

 

[guare]

PS Guare: if, by chance, you have probs converting the converted native to be able to fight alongside your other colonists, just let me know. I'm off all day Friday, and would post a reply here explaining how to do it (since I'd have full access to the actual game code, and wouldn't have to guess at file names).

Playing around with XML files is more fun than any human being should be allowed to have....

wow, dude, sorry, but I only touched my pc today. 0__o

 

[JudgeDeath]

A major problem for is that the only way to victory is not only militaristic at the end, but on the way too. It would be nice to have a peaceful option.

 

[Carrion]

A major problem for is that the only way to victory is not only militaristic at the end, but on the way too. It would be nice to have a peaceful option.

There is a peaceful option. Don't start your WOI and hope that nobody else wins their WOI and make sure you have the highest score.

I just had an idea. You can play nice nice with the king the entire game and when any other colony starts their WOI you can declare war on them and make them fight a two front war! its a nice way of making sure that you can win a non Revolution win. Then again that isn't very peaceful... hmmm...