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Abaddon
Deity
We will not build an aggressive force on the Caspian Sea. We do plan to extensivly develop fishing platforms however. My people are hungry and they need to be fed. I hope we can stabilize along our current borders.
DarthNader
Destroyer of Worlds
Fishing fleets and platforms are more than acceptable, as long as they carry no weapons, ferry no troops, and have no military function.
To solidify agreements, and to solve potential problems in the future, we drafted up this treaty. We hope you accept.
Treaty of Tbilisi
1.) The Abbasid Caliphate and the Kingdom of the Khazars will agree to keep their current borders along the western coast of the Caspian Sea. They will also agree to borders on the western coast of the sea, and the borders on the Azov Sea.
2.) Khazar merchants are allowed access to the Indian Ocean under the conditions that they
a.) Use Abbasid port facilities, roads, etc.
b.) Do not keep a land link or any territory on the Indian Ocean.
c.) Do not push religion, culture or any beliefs upon the Abbasid citizenry or anybody in the region.
3.) The Abbasid Caliphate and the Kingdom of the Khazars will agree to commence trade to improve relations, and to benefit financially from such cooperation.
4.) The Abbasid Caliphate and the Kingdom of the Khazars will agree to a NAP lasting 20 years (10 turns) as a gesture of good faith and respect to each other. This NAP can be renewed 5 years before it's expiration, during its expiration, or anytime in between.
@Skizzik: Can my capital be put in RL Baghdad. This means it should be further south. Map is below (Baghdad is the red dot).
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Abaddon
Deity
We can see little reason to agree to this. You are not just taking the lions share, you are demanding the crumbs!
There is nothing to gain for us to signing this. You need to include something for us!
There is nothing to gain for us to signing this. You need to include something for us!
DarthNader
Destroyer of Worlds
Then state your wishes, and we will attempt to make a compromise.
Abaddon
Deity
Well why are you so against us gaining access to the Indian Ocean?
DarthNader
Destroyer of Worlds
Look at your position on a map. We don't think it is wise for a nation of the north to have direct access to the southern sea, like we think it is not wise for us to have access to the northern sea. We are fine with your merchants being there, but such direct access could be used against us or used to forcibly convert our peoples. That is why we offer to let you use our facilities...and if you accept, we will have reason to build I highway between our Indian Ocean ports and our border in the Caucuses.
Abaddon
Deity
We have no interest in religion, we have no interest in waging war with a nation that is not significantly weaker than us (durr 
)
We will not expand in a way which threatens your nation. All we seek is trade links that do not risk being coerced by another.
)We will not expand in a way which threatens your nation. All we seek is trade links that do not risk being coerced by another.
DarthNader
Destroyer of Worlds
We have no interest in religion, we have no interest in waging war with a nation that is not significantly weaker than us (durr
We will not expand in a way which threatens your nation. All we seek is trade links that do not risk being coerced by another.
Do you need your own facilities to accomplish this? We can set aside portions of ports for you to use, but it would still be under our governance. We might even be willing to sell a port to you, but this would come at a steep price. If you choose to buy a port, you would still have to traverse through our lands to get them to your lands effectively, since you having a land link will mean a lack of continuity in the Caliphate, which we intend to have.
Condor_green
King
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Skizzik i will try to send orders this turn around, dont kick me out yet.
Abaddon
Deity
We are interested in being allowed to settle a port, outside your current borders. What about this?
DarthNader
Destroyer of Worlds
If you can get there, go ahead..though we doubt you will though. That's a lot of open land to cross. However, we must emphasis that the territory we gain in our eastward expansion will be continuous with our homelands.
Abaddon
Deity
When is deadline? How long are you gone for?
Deadline will be set when i get back next saturday.
so a weeks time and i'll be back.
For now happy winter hollydays for all.
D'Artagnan59
The Gascon
To: Sweden
From: Denmark
Halt all expansion in the area and cede the lands we occupy plus Gotland and you shall have peace.
From: Denmark
Halt all expansion in the area and cede the lands we occupy plus Gotland and you shall have peace.
DarthNader
Destroyer of Worlds
From: The Abbasid Caliphate
To: The Kingdom of the Khazars
We would like a response on the treaty, the port thing can be axed if you wish.
Abby, can I get a response?
To: The Kingdom of the Khazars
We would like a response on the treaty, the port thing can be axed if you wish.
Abby, can I get a response?
Neverwonagame3
Self-Styled Intellectual
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The Birth of Augustus
Augustus "the Great" was, unlike his genuinely great namesake, never ruler of a kingdom or empire. But his legacy would be important to the empire of the Franks- while Emperor Louis despised his philosophy, future Emperors would embrace it...
In 818 AD, however, that was all in the future. Augustus was just a name of percieved fashion in the towns outside Ravenna. Augustus "Redhair", as he was called, was born of peasant stock- not a promising beginning.
But, if many years into the future, he would begin to have a significant impact on the course of empires...
Augustus "the Great" was, unlike his genuinely great namesake, never ruler of a kingdom or empire. But his legacy would be important to the empire of the Franks- while Emperor Louis despised his philosophy, future Emperors would embrace it...
In 818 AD, however, that was all in the future. Augustus was just a name of percieved fashion in the towns outside Ravenna. Augustus "Redhair", as he was called, was born of peasant stock- not a promising beginning.
But, if many years into the future, he would begin to have a significant impact on the course of empires...
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
to Pictland
Surrender now.
To Wales and England
I would like to sign a Non-Agression Pact for 20 years and also possibly a trade pact.
Surrender now.
To Wales and England
I would like to sign a Non-Agression Pact for 20 years and also possibly a trade pact.
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