NukeAJS
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During the Maori livestream, the devs showed off one of the new CSs. I forget the exact name but it seemed African in origin. Anyways, that's not the point. The point is: that CS had the exact same bonus that Carthage has now (units are -20% to purchase per encampment building). On top of that, during the first livestream we saw a tool-tip that mentioned an adjacency bonus for a cothon district. It's a super safe bet to say that Carthage is in the next expansion. Actually, I think that's such a safe bet that we can just accept it and move on to meaningless (though informed) conjecture.
Since sea trade routes will get a boost in GS, I think Carthage is a prime candidate to exploit this more than other civs. I don't know exactly how sea trade routes have been improved, but Carthage will do it better. Perhaps it'll be more range? Maybe just more gold? Maybe unique yields to/from (like Egypt)? Maybe something involving alliances/diplomatic favor/diplomatic attitude? Some combination? All that being said, Carthage's UA will tie-into naval trading.
Which logically follows that Carthage's UU will be a naval unit. Since there are no unique quadremes, I'd bet this is where it'll land. I've always liked quads; but their problem is that they are too expensive, even with the +100% unit card. I've no idea what a Carthage UU quad would be, but a ranged/melee/raider would be a ton of fun. They'd be the absolute masters of the sea ... until caravels and then it'd fall apart.
As mentioned above, their UD will be the cothon. If their UA is trade-related, the cothon will most likely have something non-trade related. If their UA isn't trade related, the cothon will have a trade bonus of some sort. A harbor that functioned the same as an encampment for combat purposes could be neat albeit very defensive. That ability would be nice with canals in the game -- a single city could have three static defenses near a canal -- the city center, encampment, and cothon. Such a district would enhance a "dominate the seas" flavor.
As for a leader, I've no idea. You could go with classic leaders like Hannibal or Dido, of course. Hannibal would focus on military and that would possibly make Carthage a very well-rounded civ focusing on navy, army, and trade. Dido could focus on diplomacy -- maybe something involving diplomatic favor? She was quite the negotiator/manipulator if I remember correctly.
Anyways, what are your thoughts on Carthage? What would you like to see? What do you think we will see?
Since sea trade routes will get a boost in GS, I think Carthage is a prime candidate to exploit this more than other civs. I don't know exactly how sea trade routes have been improved, but Carthage will do it better. Perhaps it'll be more range? Maybe just more gold? Maybe unique yields to/from (like Egypt)? Maybe something involving alliances/diplomatic favor/diplomatic attitude? Some combination? All that being said, Carthage's UA will tie-into naval trading.
Which logically follows that Carthage's UU will be a naval unit. Since there are no unique quadremes, I'd bet this is where it'll land. I've always liked quads; but their problem is that they are too expensive, even with the +100% unit card. I've no idea what a Carthage UU quad would be, but a ranged/melee/raider would be a ton of fun. They'd be the absolute masters of the sea ... until caravels and then it'd fall apart.
As mentioned above, their UD will be the cothon. If their UA is trade-related, the cothon will most likely have something non-trade related. If their UA isn't trade related, the cothon will have a trade bonus of some sort. A harbor that functioned the same as an encampment for combat purposes could be neat albeit very defensive. That ability would be nice with canals in the game -- a single city could have three static defenses near a canal -- the city center, encampment, and cothon. Such a district would enhance a "dominate the seas" flavor.
As for a leader, I've no idea. You could go with classic leaders like Hannibal or Dido, of course. Hannibal would focus on military and that would possibly make Carthage a very well-rounded civ focusing on navy, army, and trade. Dido could focus on diplomacy -- maybe something involving diplomatic favor? She was quite the negotiator/manipulator if I remember correctly.
Anyways, what are your thoughts on Carthage? What would you like to see? What do you think we will see?
