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Why would I (or anyone) want to do this? In anarcho-capitalism everyone is free to fail. But he must be solely responsible for his failure.
It's morally wrong to make other people pay for consequences of actions (or inactions) of some person, who behaved in stupid manner.
So yes, all sorts of government subsidies are immoral. I'm and my wife are responsible parents of our 2 children. Government takes our family's money by force (robs my children), saying "it's a tax", to give free stuff to some chick, who is immoral and stupid enough to have a child out of wedlock with some random guy whom she never sees again.
It is true that the HAS is not mandatory but history is a unbreakable example of it happening. That is just how humans are, power always corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Btw, was there a new version coming on today or has this been delayed (again) by a political debate seminar?
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Or woman could be raped or something, because there is no law and justice system, what then?
If you don't want money for single mothers from taxes, then how you will protect child future?
Why child has suffer because something happened to their mother?
Or you hope for strong integrity of family/community to save child?
Even without welfare taxes would go to infrastructure, military and police force at least.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
GOP. I never voted Dem as a whole my entire voting age. Even when working for a Union in the automobile assembly plant, or in a indusrtial shock absorber factory. And i even helped start a Union there. Was it's 1st Secretary., Steel workers.It's a fine time to ask: during all these years, you voted Dems or GOP?
The Democratic party from the late 60's thru today is a system party I can not stand. It is not the same party of FDR or even Truman. I have though over the years at certain times voted for a Democratic representative that carried some of the same Ideals I do. But overall I have voted GOP. Even though my own father and mother voted Democrat all the years I grew up and even until 911. When they finally realized the party they had supported all those years as the "working man's" party, looking out for the "little guy" was anything but.
I am not. I just doesn't restrict people to be only in one community. You can belong to multiple communities. You can belong to the community of your country. You can belong to the community of your coworkers. You can belong to the community of your religious group. You can belong to the community of the political party you support.
You obviously doesn't belong to the community of banksters. But in this case their community is stronger than your community and they can force their will onto your community. And you can also say that the community of your country is weak because they can't prevent this.
Also it supports my original point that there is no freedom for everyone because there is always someone who is under pressure from strong forces.
That is true. But if they use the power to screw other people over then those people have to find the power somewhere to resist. If they can they will use this power if they can't they simply screwed. I also think that to expect from everyone to be fair is unrealistic. It would be nice but humans are flawed. There will be always someone who wants more. So we left with the power struggle.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
At what is your source for your statements? By the way of which None absolutely None can be proven. And if you say Carbon dating you are deceived.
Lets do 4 dimensional political test: https://8values.github.io/
Take it with grain of salt.
But your actual views would be within 10% of real values.
Take it with grain of salt.
But your actual views would be within 10% of real values.
Noriad2
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Regarding cryptocurrencies, due to the high fluctuations in value, at this moment I consider them more as objects of speculation than as money for economic transactions. People buy them in order to try to become rich for free. It is similar to 17th century Dutch Tulip Mania, in which somebody traded his home for 3 tulip bulbs and sold those a few weeks later at a profit. Until the market crashed and many people went bankrupt.
I think cryptocurrencies is worse than a pyramid scheme. At least a pyramid scheme is a zero sum game: some people win, some people lose. Mining a single bitcoin nowadays costs many thousands of dollars in electricity, and somebody has to pay that. Already the total electricity consumption of bitcoin equals that of a small country. Since the whole "bitcoin economy" doesn't produce anything, and since it does cost a lot of money in electricity, and because already many people made a fortune out of it, simple mathematics demands that most people trading in it will suffer a large financial loss eventually. Somebody has to pay the electricity bill. So I recommend that everybody stay out of it. I hope bitcoin and similar cryptocurrencies crash as soon as possible. Especially since electricity usually requires burning scarce fossil fuels, and wasting it on this silly casino game of speculation is not a good thing.
I think cryptocurrencies is worse than a pyramid scheme. At least a pyramid scheme is a zero sum game: some people win, some people lose. Mining a single bitcoin nowadays costs many thousands of dollars in electricity, and somebody has to pay that. Already the total electricity consumption of bitcoin equals that of a small country. Since the whole "bitcoin economy" doesn't produce anything, and since it does cost a lot of money in electricity, and because already many people made a fortune out of it, simple mathematics demands that most people trading in it will suffer a large financial loss eventually. Somebody has to pay the electricity bill. So I recommend that everybody stay out of it. I hope bitcoin and similar cryptocurrencies crash as soon as possible. Especially since electricity usually requires burning scarce fossil fuels, and wasting it on this silly casino game of speculation is not a good thing.
New release isn't delayed, Americans are sleeping now
Or not^
Oh I know, just wanted to lighten this sudden political upheaval a little.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
I trust science, wikipedia just was repeating it - it is easy way to quote something.Really?You have That much belief in the Wikipedia? Seriously?
Well you can see sources of wikipedia article - they are on bottom of pages.
I know, that some wikipedia articles may be lie, but they are mostly controversial subjects or short pages.
You also could buy books about evolution of humans/life or history of civilization.
Why do you think humans reached anatomical/behavioral modernity in different dates?
When neolithic revolution happened for you?
Humans have common ancestor with any living organism, depending what organism it is it could be millions of years or even soon at beginning of live few billion years ago.
I hope you don't believe humans were created (easy for aliens if universe allows faster than light travel and time travel) or universe (easy if your civilization is in transcendental era) was created 6000 years ago as creationists believe.
Otherwise you may as well believe, that universe is simulation, that started last tuesday.
In C2C there is no difference between god and transcendental era civilization, that researched all techs.
Also C2C universe is simulation.
This is what you get for unchecked growth and progression.
Transcendental era is exploration of limitations of physics, mathematics, spacetime and metaphysics.
Radiative dating is valid even if you get 20% of error from actual date - like 100 000 years ago instead of 110 000 years ago.
Also you get not one but 50 samples for reason.
You can search there: https://scholar.google.com/ for science related stuff.
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It's interesting but I don't like the X vs Y type questions. They are too restrictive, to simple. My views are much more complicated. Also the real world is much more complicated.
Well all political compasses are like this: agree or disagree with what is stated.
According to one I'm for Scandinavian style economy, global cooperation, personal freedom and I'm very progressive.
Edit: there is 8 dimensional compass too: http://www.politiscales.net
Additional characteristics should be treated with grain of salt.
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Thunderbrd
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No delay.
All we're sharing is perspectives I suppose. Until one side completely dominates over the other these debates will never resolve, and even then the blame will always be made from an angle of political bias. All I can say is that regardless of what system we have, it's no longer the people making choices but those who wield the power of the money they possess. So no party is 'for the people' because you either tow the line and profit handsomely for serving those who buy policy, or you get ejected from the system. Pretty simple.
This thread was more like intercontinental skirmish between Americans and Europeans
Apparently everyone understand something different under name of "communism"
We all know how various flavors of "communism", "socialism" or just plain totalitarianism were bad in real life. Same with anarchocapitalism.
Some systems are easier destroyed by human flaws.
I was for moderate control of economy (anything between Switzerland and Scandinavia) as we didn't change much since last several tens of thousands of years.
That is self moderating system of checks and balances with safety net for quick bounce if someone gets unlucky.
It would be real shame if USA turned into Cyberpunk and Europe was destroyed by extremism or relentless immigrant flood.
We still have Asia - Japan, China, South Korea and other such countries.
Any Asian players around here?
There is Australian DH, but Australia is Oceania
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There is no such thing as real communism, communism comes in all shapes and form though there is an essence that is similar in them all, There's the pre-industrial examples of communism, like Christian communism, ancient Greek communism, the egalitarian tribal societies, then you got all the more contemporary variants like Maoism, Trotskyism, Leninism, Stalinism, Juche, Syndicalism, councilism, etc. which are all a combination of many different political philosophies like nationalism, socialism, authoritarianism, etc. Then you got every single unique individual variants of communism which is the interpretation every single human being has of all of theses communistic variants, I myself consider myself a Marxist, but not all that describe Marxism applies to my political view. Your comments about how communism is this or that, and how you imply that communism is somehow related to the "quality of the soul", sounds to me like McCarthyism in practice.
The paragraph above would be very similar if I had been talking about any other kind of -ism than communism.
North Korea is imo a really poor example of policies built upon the arguments from communistic political philosophy.
Communism has throughout the ages had the central essence that society should be shaped by the community (majority), not by an elite (minority). Community represent cooperation, and elite represent competition.
North Korea is shaped by a minute elite who holds all political power and treats the majority as something less than themselves. It resembles ancient Egypt in more than one way, their palace economy and worship of their leader for one.
The question of a currency, or not, is not integral to communism, even though some of the variations of communism does state an opinion on it.
Communistic philosophy does not need to result in the abolishment of private property or even salary differentiation in society. Though fanatical communists often think in those lanes.
Labor unions (that actually have the power to influence a workplace) rely on the communistic political philosophy and the arguments from it, the same could be said about the widening of voting rights to the middle class and the poor (empower the people).
You may accuse me of defending atrocities throughout the ages, but that would be irrational. I'm attacking a rhetoric that is polarizing and without nuance, without defending or attacking any historical event whatsoever.
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JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
I trust science, wikipedia just was repeating it - it is easy way to quote something.
Well you can see sources of wikipedia article - they are on bottom of pages.
I know, that some wikipedia articles may be lie, but they are mostly controversial subjects or short pages.
You also could buy books about evolution of humans/life or history of civilization.
Why do you think humans reached anatomical/behavioral modernity in different dates?
When neolithic revolution happened for you?
Humans have common ancestor with any living organism, depending what organism it is it could be millions of years or even soon at beginning of live few billion years ago.
I hope you don't believe humans were created (easy for aliens if universe allows faster than light travel and time travel) or universe (easy if your civilization is in transcendental era) was created 6000 years ago as creationists believe.
Otherwise you may as well believe, that universe is simulation, that started last tuesday.
In C2C there is no difference between god and transcendental era civilization, that researched all techs.
Also C2C universe is simulation.
This is what you get for unchecked growth and progression.
Transcendental era is exploration of limitations of physics, mathematics, spacetime and metaphysics.
Radiative dating is valid even if you get 20% of error from actual date - like 100 000 years ago instead of 110 000 years ago.
Also you get not one but 50 samples for reason.
You can search there: https://scholar.google.com/ for science related stuff.
Raxo this is all Old hat. It's been cussed and discussed for many many years. Your proclamation is no different than a BS Creationist or an Alien worshiper. So don't claim superiority when you can not prove it. And the fact is you can not prove any of what you are saying no matter how many Others you quote. Why? Because they can not do it either. So it becomes a belief system all based on conjecture, hypothesis, and theories. Just like the belief system for those others you put down.
Our Science is not proven nor perfect in any way. In fact time will expose most of what your are "preaching" as here say and be discounted as not knowing enough to know better.
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