So long and thanks for all the luxuries.

[GeneralZIft]

Odd Civ is like sharp cool and edgy... even Civ is like mild soft and comfy

Valid or no?

 

[Unit 371]

I'm neutral on the Civ switching idea, but hopefully some sort of Classic mode can be implemented or modded in for everyone not sold on it. If the Civ-switching absolutely bombs then we always have Classic Mode to fall back on. Plus it would be great to have the option of a more traditional civ experience.

 

[TheGrayFox]

I'm neutral on the Civ switching idea, but hopefully some sort of Classic mode can be implemented or modded in for everyone not sold on it. If the Civ-switching absolutely bombs then we always have Classic Mode to fall back on. Plus it would be great to have the option of a more traditional civ experience.

The game is being completely balanced and designed around its age mechanics and the ability to "adapt civilizations"

a classical mode isn't going to fix that this issue is going to be baked into its core design

 

[Disgustipated]

Some things never change. That was me when Civ5 came out lol. But then I played Civ6, and somehow I enjoyed the even-number Civ games more than the odd-numbered ones.

@nzcamel you gotta wait for Civ8 haha

I'm another one of those even number civs are the best (I admit I never played the first one). 2, 4, and 6 were just spectacular. 5 Started to become playable after the expansions, but vanilla 5 was unplayable for me. As for 3, it wasn't bad, but it didn't really improve upon much from 2. Apart from the armies. And I am happy to see armies return, in a way for Civ 7.

I believe I'll enjoy civ 7, but probably not as much as 6, 4, and 2.

 

[nzcamel]

The game is being completely balanced and designed around its age mechanics and the ability to "adapt civilizations"

a classical mode isn't going to fix that this issue is going to be baked into its core design

I think there would be a way to do it, especially if in SP you have the option to also limit your opponents to one Civ.
But I appreciate it's not going to be a high priority anytime soon for anyone but modders.

 

[nzcamel]

I'm another one of those even number civs are the best (I admit I never played the first one). 2, 4, and 6 were just spectacular. 5 Started to become playable after the expansions, but vanilla 5 was unplayable for me. As for 3, it wasn't bad, but it didn't really improve upon much from 2. Apart from the armies. And I am happy to see armies return, in a way for Civ 7.

I believe I'll enjoy civ 7, but probably not as much as 6, 4, and 2.

I think 3 is better than it gets credit for, but the brutal corruption if you ever tried to settle on a distant continent wasn't fun at all.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

I think 3 is better than it gets credit for, but the brutal corruption if you ever tried to settle on a distant continent wasn't fun at all.

I remember it being my least favorite of the series, but also probably the one that I played the most. I had a lot of free time during that period heh.

 

[Thormodr]

Just like crappy 5, it may be the community that saves 7.

Hopefully, it will be highly moddable.

 

[Fluphen Azine]

Personally, I think this reaction is a bit premature. So you have already dismissed civ7 completely, months before the release, based on just the first day of gameplay reveal? There is still a lot about civ7 that we don't know yet. What if we learn new stuff about civ7 that changes your mind?

A lot of us are dismissing it because it is obvious that Civ has been going in a different direction since the end of Civ 4. It's pretty obvious that they are starting to cater to console players so yeah, I'll watch streamers and see how it goes. But after 25 years of playing Civ, I guess I'm done too.

 

[Fluphen Azine]

I'm not them, but this defeats the entire purpose of the game for me, which is why that announcement alone is enough to make me feel confident that I won't play it.

If I want to play something more realistic with prior culture/empire transitions, I can play a paradox game. They will do it much better, with more realistic context and transitions. In fact, I often do/did.

With Civ, I wanted to build a single entity up using the civilization I chose as the theme for how I engaged. I wanted to build an Empire that stands the test of time. With the civ I'm effectively playing as forcibly changed, I don't have that option. I can no longer start as England, France, Japan, or America. I can no longer finish as the Aztecs, Romans, or Mongolians.

Again, I want to reiterate that it's okay. Many will probably like this system. It's just not something that works for me, so I won't play it.

I'm hoping they go back to a more classical approach in Civ 8.
I'm pretty sure they won't.
Those days of old are long gone.

 

[TheGrayFox]

I'm hoping they go back to a more classical approach in Civ 8.
I'm pretty sure they won't.
Those days of old are long gone.

Can't wait for that game 15 years from now

 

[Fluphen Azine]

Can't wait for that game 15 years from now

Yeah, I'll probably be dead by that time, oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

 

[Thenewwwguy]

From what we've seen so far it feels more like Civ 6.5 rather than 7, so I won't be taking the plunge straight away.

my personal theory is ppl saying this are the ones who “hate the civ 6 art style cuz its cartooney”, sorry

I’m unconvinced by civ 7 *because* its so different from civ 6

 

[Thormodr]

my personal theory is ppl saying this are the ones who “hate the civ 6 art style cuz its cartooney”, sorry

I’m unconvinced by civ 7 *because* its so different from civ 6

To me it feels more like 5. It's got the horrible happiness system rearing its ugly head again. Global happiness was an awful mechanic. Literally the worst mechanic designed to throttle rapid expansion. Corruption in Civ III was pretty terrible, too.

While the artwork seems to be a compromise of VI and 5. You are correct in this bogus "cartooney" complaint causing some people to equate 7 with VI. This is nonsense, of course.

So 5 mechanics but VI ish graphics.

We'll see a much better picture with the gameplay videos, anyway.