So, No Britain?

We'll almost certainly get an English leader in the DLC that introduces Britain. I'll be curious to see if it's Elizabeth I again or someone new. Or maybe it will be Henry II because we do not have enough French leaders.

I'll throw a curve ball here and suggest Charles Fox just for the fun of it.
 
The age names are best ignored; the Exploration Age is both Medieval and Exploration.
I feel naming it the exploration age has somehow led people to firmly believe it's the renaissance onwards at best when in reality its very much definitely inclusive of the middle ages also
Hopefully some more recognisably 'medieval' civs besides the normans will eventually remedy that
 
We'll almost certainly get an English leader in the DLC that introduces Britain. I'll be curious to see if it's Elizabeth I again or someone new. Or maybe it will be Henry II because we do not have enough French leaders.
Past instances of English leaders:

Code:
Churchill
Eleanor of Aquitaine
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Henry VIII
Victoria
Victoria

Someone other than Elizabeth I might be nice :crazyeye:
 
Someone other than Elizabeth I might be nice :crazyeye:
I keep wanting her back until they actually portray her properly, but I've also kind of lost hope that will ever happen. :(
 
I still find this framing strange - there are three civs from the Indian subcontinent, but why the framing of "India gets three and some people gets none" implies a much greater level of connection and/or continuity between these civs than there was historically. They're different cultures, they're different language groups, they're different in a huge number of ways. Why does "India get multiple slots" but Europe isn't treated the same? What connection do the Chola, an empire from the far south of India, have to the Mughals, an empire with a Turkic/Mongol ruling class based out of far-north India have that France and Spain do not? For comparison, the capital cities of these two states were about 2,000 km apart - would including Rome and Russia count as 'multiple slots for Europe' on that basis? There are three civs that predominantly held territory in modern-day India, but if that's the only connection, it's a pretty flimsy one in my opinion.
I’m framing it the way the game seems to try and frame it. But the fact of the matter is China and India each have 3 civilizations in game, even if they are disconnected, and some people get either no representation or a very vague reference.
Just to be clear I have no issue with have multiple Chinas or Indias in game, I just think with the ages system 10 civs per age is too small.
 
We'll almost certainly get an English leader in the DLC that introduces Britain. I'll be curious to see if it's Elizabeth I again or someone new. Or maybe it will be Henry II because we do not have enough French leaders.
We are all assuming the British will be in DLC, but it is just speculation with nothing confirmed? Or have I missed an announcement?
 
We are all assuming the British will be in DLC, but it is just speculation with nothing confirmed? Or have I missed an announcement?
Nothing about the DLC is known for sure, but Britain is an obvious gap and it even has a potential associated wonder in the base game that could put it in Crossroads of the World. So not confirmed, but about as close to being confirmed as it can be without official confirmation. Or put another way, we don't know which DLC Britain is in, but we can be certain it is in a DLC since it is not in the base game.
 
We are all assuming the British will be in DLC, but it is just speculation with nothing confirmed? Or have I missed an announcement?
I don't see why a Modern British civ wouldn't eventually get in the game?
At least in my opinion, they are the most likely even before staples such as the Aztecs, Babylon, Ottomans, and the Zulu.

Also, the history of London itself going from Roman to Norman, then British, was the main inspiration for Civ 7 switching mechanics.
 
Past instances of English leaders:

Code:
Churchill
Eleanor of Aquitaine
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Elizabeth I
Henry VIII
Victoria
Victoria

Someone other than Elizabeth I might be nice :crazyeye:
Which is such a shame, because, apart from America, the British Isles in general and England in particular probably have the longest list of noteworthy individuals.
Many of them have never been Leaders in Civ, likely because Elizabeth and Victoria were easy ways to get the female Leader count up.
But as your post demonstrates, it's time for someone new.
Might I suggest...

  • Thomas More (Lord Chancellor, author of Utopia, martyr and saint in Roman Catholicism, stood up to the terrible Henry VIII)
  • Alfred the Great (fought off the Vikings, paved the way for the unification of England, burnt cakes)
  • William Shakespeare (playwright, poet)
  • Edward III (modelled his court after Camelot, founded the Order of the Garter)
  • Henry VII (first English monarch to thought to descend from the line of Arthur and the Kings of Britain; his ascension ended the War of the Roses)
  • John Milton (wrote the definitive English language epic poem Paradise Lost; political prisoner for being a republican)
  • Edmund Spencer (author of The Faerie Queene, honoring Elizabeth I as Gloriana, the titular queen of Faerie; one of England's greatest poets)
  • Geoffrey Chaucer (author of the Canterbury Tales; friends with champion jouster Heath Ledger)
 
the British Isles in general and England in particular probably have the longest list of noteworthy individuals.
England has plenty of interesting leaders to choose from and I'd love someone new, but "longest list" is an enormous stretch for a civ whose history barely goes back a thousand years.
 
Alfred the Great (fought off the Vikings, paved the way for the unification of England, burnt cakes)
Wouldn't mind Alfred the Great, or his grandson Aethelstan, appearing especially if Elizabeth only returns as a "trade agreement meme queen".
Geoffrey Chaucer (author of the Canterbury Tales; friends with champion jouster Heath Ledger)
Ah yes, the famous jouster who also fought the Dark Knight, though not in A Knight's Tale, ironically. :mischief:
 
If they do a British DLC, then I would like them to change to non monarch leaders.

Shakespeare, Newton, Darwin, Brunel, Nelson.. there are lots of great options.

Assuming modders have improved the map options by then it would probably be enough for me to buy the game I imagine.
 
If they do a British DLC, then I would like them to change to non monarch leaders.

Shakespeare, Newton, Darwin, Brunel, Nelson.. there are lots of great options.

Assuming modders have improved the map options by then it would probably be enough for me to buy the game I imagine.
i really want them to do an EIC/british raj leader.
 
Firaxis announces an English leader...

Take 1

*drumroll please*

Spoiler :
William the Conqueror!


No? Ok...

Take 2

*drumroll please*

Spoiler :
Charles Edward Stuart!
(aka Bonny Prince Charlie)


Still no? Ok...

Take 3

*drumroll please*

Spoiler :
Mary I!
(aka Bloody Mary)


Nailed it.
 
I'd take Bonnie Prince Charlie or Mary Tudor. :p
 
That many English leaders would be unacceptable parity between French and English, and require ar least doubling the French representation.
 
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