helemaalnicks
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popped a hut for it obv... lucky.
Some forgotten-but-important technologies
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popped a hut for it obv... lucky.
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Obviously! I mean, Writing in 4000BC! We really owe the discovery to the long-lost people of a one-tile village somewhere in Egypt
Abegweit
Anarchist trader
Where didn't I use evidence and thought? Actually, I thought that I was simply pointing out facts. Whitelaughter has been consistently mistaken about virtually everything and gets offended when you point it out. Beware about that Latin/Greek thing. 
Yet another error on his part.Fact: New Zealand is part of Polynesia.
Fact: The Polynesians were quite capable of tacking against the wind.
Fact: The concept of Australasia is about white migrations. As such, it has absolutely nothing to do with the colonisation of the Pacific as that was already finished when the whites arrived.
These are all facts which Whitelaughter denies. It will be interesting to see if he acknowledges his error on languages. He might.
Whitelaughter thinks that the Polynesians decided to drift helplessly across thousands of miles and pray to God that they would tumble on a destination. Umm no. As rational folk, they clearly would have had a Plan B if they didn't find anything.
Fact: New Zealand is part of Polynesia.
Fact: The Polynesians were quite capable of tacking against the wind.
Fact: The concept of Australasia is about white migrations. As such, it has absolutely nothing to do with the colonisation of the Pacific as that was already finished when the whites arrived.
These are all facts which Whitelaughter denies. It will be interesting to see if he acknowledges his error on languages. He might.
Whitelaughter thinks that the Polynesians decided to drift helplessly across thousands of miles and pray to God that they would tumble on a destination. Umm no. As rational folk, they clearly would have had a Plan B if they didn't find anything.
Part 1 - maybe, but irrelevant - it's a long way from anywhere save Australia
Part 2 - Tricky without a sail! They only had rafts, and so Whitelaughter is right
Part 3 - Austrailasia is, yes, based on the concept of Aisa, but is not similar in character to Polynesia proper.
And WthieLaughter is right - they had no alternative, and were probably driven by starvation or something. As rational folk, they used what technology they had and left sharpish.
helemaalnicks
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Ill post one on topic to see if the flamers can stop then:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flush_toilet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flush_toilet
very good idea - I lament the lack of any sewage technology massively.
blitzkrieg1980
Octobrist
sniper kitty said:
flying pig said:
I, too am interested in how this is possible without a sail.
EDIT: Please don't post Wikipedia entries. There's too much BS on there for me to trust it.
I will defend Wikipedia - on average the content is good, save for articles on things like Sparta and places or people which get vandalised a lot. This is because there are fewer vandals than nice people, and it is easy to put right any vandalism
I don't even think you have to click the link to get the point. He either wanted to suggest a general sanitation technology, or he wanted to say this thread is full of garbage that should be flushed down said toliet (if the auto-censors would let me, I would probably substitute a different word in previous sentence).
The problem really isn't the outright vandalism, but rather the more subtle changes. For example, replacing the WW2 article with a racist tirade against particular ethnic groups was corrected almost immediately. However, substituting 5th cent. BC with 4th cent. BC, while equally wrong, will not be caught unless somebody has specific knowledge of the topic. These kind of errors can accumulate and persist for weeks.
Now, I know the response: "Instead of whining about its inaccuracy, just edit it yourself and fix it!" Sure, I can do that. But the average person who is just looking something up for fun and doesn't have any other reference for the material isn't going to know that.
Abegweit
Anarchist trader
It's a long way from there too. 1200 miles. And why do you think this irrelevant? The Polynesians trecked the Ocean Blue. Thousands and thousands of miles.
What? Are you saying that rafts can't have sails? They most definitely can - and in the case of the Polynesians, they definitely did.
No. It has nothing to do with Asia or Polynesia. Austrailasia (sic) is all about the White Man zone in the South Pacific.
Man. Re-read your post. Are you serious?
blitzkrieg1980
Octobrist
Precisely. And they have a whole little staff on hand that oversees the more modern/current day entries on Israel, the U.S., corporations, and major events. I'm not a fan of the idea that this wikipedia is becoming one of the most widely referenced source of knowledge for young people. It's a little scary.
Now, i'm still interested in knowing how people went against the current with no sails???
champ82
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It’s pretty amazing how long this thread has been off topic.
Re : Wikipedia. It is scary how many people use it (even myself sometimes.) I counted 10 errors on The Sopranos site. Of course it was locked, so I couldn’t correct them. Now, I’m obsessed with The Sopranos, so I caught the errors. How many pieces of mis-information do I have lodged in my brain about things I didn’t know much about?
Re : Wikipedia. It is scary how many people use it (even myself sometimes.) I counted 10 errors on The Sopranos site. Of course it was locked, so I couldn’t correct them. Now, I’m obsessed with The Sopranos, so I caught the errors. How many pieces of mis-information do I have lodged in my brain about things I didn’t know much about?
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