Something to prevent this

[dagriggstar]

How it happenned (and it seems to happen alot)

1) - Spain establishes colonies (6 in the America's, the 5 shown + 1 in Colombia)
2) - Arabs revolt
3) - Arabs take Santiago, Cordoba, Utrecht (Dutch are vassal of Spain, hence war)
4) - Spain recovers Cordoba
5) - Spain realises "Oh *** we can't hold onto these cities, so gives Seville (Babylon) independence. Later also gives Cordoba and Toledo to two different civs. Still at war with Arabs...
6) - Make peace with Arabs (they have no cities left)

Net result - 5 cities between 4 civs when they really should be just one...

Any solutions in the pipeline ? Like say...Spain concedes those cities (instead of 3 different civs) to the Arabs in this example ?

 

[Zeiter]

Looks realistic to me. Just think of Latin America (almost all speaking the same language, almost all descended from the same parent civ, but still fractured nonetheless).

 

[jdog5000]

Balkanization is definitely an issue at times in the mod, where a collection of cities which would make for a competitive civ is split among several civs which each start to fall behind. What I aim for is for there not to be too much of this splitting, so there's a mixture of larger civs and these fractured areas. In this particular instance though Spain should probably be giving these cities to either the Arabs or the Dutch, I agree ... I'll see what I can do.

 

[Duuk]

Actually, I think that should be not only "Works as designed" but "Works as historical".

People didn't automatically form into stable empires. See also: United States of Central America (1823-1840), Yugoslavia (1918-2006), Soviet Union (1917-1989). Balkanization is the rule, not the exception.