Son of Deported Immigration Activist Urges Congress to Bring Mom Back to America

[downtown]

A better life as a political tool?

Yes.

It would appear that the parent took a calculated risk...and felt that sneaking into America would provide better opportunities for her kid than living in Mexico. I think she's correct. To her, that was worth risking deportation. My grandparents considered the same thing. If I was in her shoes, I think I'd sneak her too.

You guys can debate the matter of birthright citizenship and whatnot, I think thats another matter...but having the kid move BACK to Mexico sort of defeats the whole purpose right?

 

[bhsup]

What's an Elias?

Elias was the evil king of Osten Ard. Brother of Prince Josua. Allied with the evil, undead Ineluki, Storm King of the Sithi.

 

[skadistic]

I don't feel bad for a criminals anchor baby whining about the consequences of his law breaking mommy. All blame lays solely at her feet.

 

[Bugfatty300]

Elias was the evil king of Osten Ard. Brother of Prince Josua. Allied with the evil, undead Ineluki, Storm King of the Sithi.

Ohhhhh now it makes sense.

Hahahaha good one Masquerouge!

 

[Elrohir]

Yes.

It would appear that the parent took a calculated risk...and felt that sneaking into America would provide better opportunities for her kid than living in Mexico. I think she's correct. To her, that was worth risking deportation. My grandparents considered the same thing. If I was in her shoes, I think I'd sneak her too.

You guys can debate the matter of birthright citizenship and whatnot, I think thats another matter...but having the kid move BACK to Mexico sort of defeats the whole purpose right?

*Shrugs* She can believe what she wants. But we shouldn't allow people to break US federal and state law because sometimes people feel sad about the consequences. If you've got an issue with the law, then change the law - but complaining that it is enforced is insane. (I'm not that you're doing that Downtown)

 

[The Yankee]

I'd suspect that now that it happened, it's a rather convenient political tool to use to bash the big, bad US of A once again. I can see how one might arrive at the decision to bring their child (or have their child born) to the US to set up a better life...but if it doesn't work out, then take the child with you. The child may be in better hands with his/her own parent than in some random place in the US.

And perhaps it'd make for an easier time getting your way back into US the safer and legal way.

 

[bhsup]

You guys can debate the matter of birthright citizenship and whatnot, I think thats another matter...but having the kid move BACK to Mexico sort of defeats the whole purpose right?

Not at all. The child is of course welcome to stay. He's an American citizen and didn't break any of our laws to enter our country. The mother has to decide whether she would prefer the son stay in the United States with a guardian that is here legally and that she can trust, or whether she would rather be re-united with her son in Mexico.

 

[The Yankee]

Not at all. The child is of course welcome to stay. He's an American citizen and didn't break any of our laws to enter our country. The mother has to decide whether she would prefer the son stay in the United States with a guardian that is here legally and that she can trust, or whether she would rather be re-united with her son in Mexico.

I could imagine a clustermess happening if Mexico used any anti-immigration laws against the son, leading to more outcry at the big, bad US.

 

[bhsup]

I could imagine a clustermess happening if Mexico used any anti-immigration laws against the son, leading to more outcry at the big, bad US.

Hadn't considered that, but I imagine that Mexican citizenship is probably similiar to US. His mother being a Mexican citizen, I'd imagine he could claim it as well.

 

[Shadylookin]

WHy doesn't he move to mexico with his mother??

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296621,00.html

well since he's 8 and not a Mexican citizen it's probably not as simple as giving him a pack lunch and sending him over the border. Even Mexico has immigration laws, and we're not allowed to deport citizens.

plus if you had the option of the US or Mexico for your children I think I would choose the US too.

 

[Bugfatty300]

well since he's 8 and not a Mexican citizen it's probably not as simple as giving him a pack lunch and sending him over the border. Even Mexico has immigration laws, and we're not allowed to deport citizens.

His parents are both Mexican citizens so he would also be considered a Mexican citizen.

And nobody here is saying he should be deported. Just saying that if its so bad to be separated from his mother then he should live with her.

 

[Leonel]

I wonder if she realized the situation she would be putting herself in or not.

Also is there really a law that gives US citizenship to children born to foreign nationals within US borders?

 

[Bugfatty300]

Also is there really a law that gives US citizenship to children born to foreign nationals within US borders?

Yes, anyone born with the territory of the US is guaranteed "birthright" citizenship. Most countries have this I think.

 

[woody60707]

Yes, anyone born with the territory of the US is guaranteed "birthright" citizenship. Most countries have this I think.

From what I understand, most don't. but idk really.

 

[Elrohir]

I wonder if she realized the situation she would be putting herself in or not.

Also is there really a law that gives US citizenship to children born to foreign nationals within US borders?

Yep, there is. It really should be modified to at the very least require that the foreign nationals be in the country legally - but anyone who suggested such a thing would probably be met with calls of "racist!"

 

[Bugfatty300]

nevermind/.....

 

[George2816]

Yes, anyone born with the territory of the US is guaranteed "birthright" citizenship. Most countries have this I think.

Most Used to but they changed it because most people knew what would happen if they did not!

 

[Bugfatty300]

Most Used to but they changed it because most people knew what would happen if they did not!

What do you mean? Have they repealed the 14th Amendment? As far as I know they haven't.

Federal Law as of 2006:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

 

[George2816]

What do you mean? Have they repealed the 14th Amendment? As far as I know they haven't.

Federal Law as of 2006:

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

Most other countries have changed the laws in their own country because they knew what would happen if they did not. (This doesn't include the USA)

 

[Bugfatty300]

Most other countries have changed the laws in their own country because they knew what would happen if they did not. (This doesn't include the USA)

Oh gotchya.