christos200
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Greece can you help me?
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Persia demands are just as they want to limit the Jerusalem's ability to carry out a future attack using that fort as a base of operations. If anything, the fact he didn't demand all the forts along the border goes to show that Persia can forgive.
Omega124
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christos200
Never tell me the odds
Look, i have 50 armies and you 30.
Omega124
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My economy is miles ahead of you.
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We
Didn't
Attack
Persia.
Persia has nothing to forgive, and we have nothing to feel sorry for in Persia's respect. If you "Visionaries" really defend Persia's stance in this you're no better than me. The Persians are being hypocrites. Damning me for my offense, yet defending another for the same? Even Persia's new-found allies knows Persia is going to war just to reap benefits from my already-planned surrender.
The fact that I didn't ask for 5 border provinces seems a bit more substantial.
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Anyway, peace deal with Greece confirmed. All lands taken are to be given back. Jerusalem promises to make no WMDs, and agrees to let foreign scientists conduct any searches. All loses to the Greek military plus reparations will be paid back next turn. The blockade in the Mediterranean is to be called off.
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I didn't say I was better than you. I just know that I'm in a stronger position than you which is very much the same thing in this case. Again, it's logical that Persia would want the fort and territory. The costs of giving up said territories are not as steep as refusing to give up the territories.
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Jerusalem's aggressive behavior toward Greece will translate in aggression elsewhere. As such, we see it fit to contain such aggressive tendencies. Since Persia and Greece will have natural reasons to see a contained Jerusalem, we support them as natural allies working toward a common goal.
It's that good ol' Realpolitik.
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Persia has no reason to contain me. I know I didn't notice how much he wanted no help, but attacking the attacker of his enemy?
Whatever repercussions there might be for his unreasonable behavior should fall down on him. I'm not giving up my land to a country that has declared war on me for little reason. I'll pay reparations for the trouble I've caused, but I'm not giving up land to Persia.
To be clear, this conversation has nothing to do with Greece and everything to do with Persia.
Whatever repercussions there might be for his unreasonable behavior should fall down on him. I'm not giving up my land to a country that has declared war on me for little reason. I'll pay reparations for the trouble I've caused, but I'm not giving up land to Persia.
To be clear, this conversation has nothing to do with Greece and everything to do with Persia.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
Rome shall be razed to the ground.
Gem Hound
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Just to tell you, after France left the war, I specifically stated that no one was to help either side as I was going to start negotiating. you destroyed that and killed the balance so, negotiations ended, me and France decided to contain a sneak attacker as we weren't truly fighting anyways. ((At least I see it that way)) We have the Caucasus and Anatolia planned out to be split between us. I get the Caucasus and he gets Anatolia.
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I didn't notice the whole balancing thing. And it looked like you guys were actually fighting. I believe AA said it as, "Have fun losing."
And I wasn't even planning on killing AA. Like I said, I was planning peace. What I didn't expect was Son to go ahead and threaten nuclear war and you do a 360 and attack me. Which I still don't understand. Even if you struck a deal with Greece, how does it make sense to declare without much warning? Especially as I already have some dude a continent away ready to nuke me.
Short of simply wanting to exploit the situation, there was no reason to declare war. I don't see why two-three people spoke against my using that mentality yet hold their tongues when you do the same thing.(RedSpy, CivG, and Son. I'm looking at you guys.)
And I wasn't even planning on killing AA. Like I said, I was planning peace. What I didn't expect was Son to go ahead and threaten nuclear war and you do a 360 and attack me. Which I still don't understand. Even if you struck a deal with Greece, how does it make sense to declare without much warning? Especially as I already have some dude a continent away ready to nuke me.
Short of simply wanting to exploit the situation, there was no reason to declare war. I don't see why two-three people spoke against my using that mentality yet hold their tongues when you do the same thing.(RedSpy, CivG, and Son. I'm looking at you guys.)
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-Jerusalem destroyed 9 armies total of Greeces, so will pay 45 in reparations next turn
unless the peace deal crumbles.
Iblis is pleased at the blood being spilled by all. He demands more!
-Franco-Roman War
France has amassed a horde of 54 armies. Rome can reach 60 armies with its vast wealth, but why throw so many lives away in a 50/50 battle?
Rome has a tradition of military quality to uphold! At the cost of 75 gold, Rome techs up to Army 2, giving it +2 against the French. 10 armies are recruited with the rest
Rome now has 45 armies, all at Army 2 quality, against Frances 54. Frances numerical advantage will melt very quickly, however!
Since Rome gave the order to attack, their units move first.
Or would. However, it becomes apparent the French army would be a tough nut to crack the entire border being fortified, or otherwise constructed to funnel troops through No Mans Land, the decision is instead made to stay on the defense
18 troops guard Iberia; the mass of the French army comes down on them. The soldiers will fight bravely it is likely they will all die, and Iberia will fall, but theyll make it a Pyrrhic victory!
8 6
8 2
10 7
7 6
9 10
1 4
7 5
5 6
6 7
10 6
3-7
5 4
5 1
10 7
10 7
9 10
2 9
9 9
2 7
2 8
5 1
4-6
There are no forts in Iberia, so the army is just pushed against the coast. But they hold their own!
2 7
1 3
10 7
6 10
9 4
5 1
3 2
6 8
5 6
8 7
3-7
1 6
9 5
4 4
4 6
4 5
7 10
5 6
10 6
6 4
2 8
2-8
The French realize their folly and retreat!
In total, the Romans have lost 12 units the French have lost 28. For the French boasting about the Battle of Thermopylae, they sure didnt see themselves committing the same mistake assuming strength of numbers could crush a free peoples spirit.
12 French armies guard the Iberian peninsula all outside forts. 13 guard France proper, insulating it from the Roman forces.
The Roman generals are relieved; despite high losses and the loss of 1 Industry, the enemy have worn themselves down and left half their army exposed. Iberia is ripe for the taking!
The 6 Roman Armies still in Iberia move out.
6 5
7 6
9 4
3 9
6 10
4 7
3-3. At the very least, 3 provinces are liberated.
The dust settles Rome has 23 armies in Italia, whereas France has 13 in Francia. A move by either would be dangerous the rows of forts both have erected make war costly either way.
The preview everyone wanted.
Iblis is pleased at the blood being spilled by all. He demands more!
-Franco-Roman War
France has amassed a horde of 54 armies. Rome can reach 60 armies with its vast wealth, but why throw so many lives away in a 50/50 battle?
Rome has a tradition of military quality to uphold! At the cost of 75 gold, Rome techs up to Army 2, giving it +2 against the French. 10 armies are recruited with the rest
Rome now has 45 armies, all at Army 2 quality, against Frances 54. Frances numerical advantage will melt very quickly, however!
Since Rome gave the order to attack, their units move first.
Or would. However, it becomes apparent the French army would be a tough nut to crack the entire border being fortified, or otherwise constructed to funnel troops through No Mans Land, the decision is instead made to stay on the defense
18 troops guard Iberia; the mass of the French army comes down on them. The soldiers will fight bravely it is likely they will all die, and Iberia will fall, but theyll make it a Pyrrhic victory!
8 6
8 2
10 7
7 6
9 10
1 4
7 5
5 6
6 7
10 6
3-7
5 4
5 1
10 7
10 7
9 10
2 9
9 9
2 7
2 8
5 1
4-6
There are no forts in Iberia, so the army is just pushed against the coast. But they hold their own!
2 7
1 3
10 7
6 10
9 4
5 1
3 2
6 8
5 6
8 7
3-7
1 6
9 5
4 4
4 6
4 5
7 10
5 6
10 6
6 4
2 8
2-8
The French realize their folly and retreat!
In total, the Romans have lost 12 units the French have lost 28. For the French boasting about the Battle of Thermopylae, they sure didnt see themselves committing the same mistake assuming strength of numbers could crush a free peoples spirit.
12 French armies guard the Iberian peninsula all outside forts. 13 guard France proper, insulating it from the Roman forces.
The Roman generals are relieved; despite high losses and the loss of 1 Industry, the enemy have worn themselves down and left half their army exposed. Iberia is ripe for the taking!
The 6 Roman Armies still in Iberia move out.
6 5
7 6
9 4
3 9
6 10
4 7
3-3. At the very least, 3 provinces are liberated.
The dust settles Rome has 23 armies in Italia, whereas France has 13 in Francia. A move by either would be dangerous the rows of forts both have erected make war costly either way.
The preview everyone wanted.
Omega124
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...What happened to "EXACTLY"? I didn't order any of this! 
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