SP6 - Deity Training
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Matt where'd you find your avatar? I love it. 
Renata <-- would be in the market for a Hobbes, possibly (and no, doesn't mind looking like a copycat, now why do you ask?)
Ontopic PS: Looks like I get to do some warmongering, whee!
Renata <-- would be in the market for a Hobbes, possibly (and no, doesn't mind looking like a copycat, now why do you ask?)
Ontopic PS: Looks like I get to do some warmongering, whee!
Preturn: I notice the Babs are in Anarchy. I bet they are going to Democracy. Bah! We need to get World War cranked up ASAP. I dont think I will be able to start the war on my watch though. Since Renata got robbed in the Monarch TDG as far as action was concerned, I will try and set her up to lay some smack down. 
Boston is going back to a worker a turn for a while. I got it to +20 fpt and 12 spt.
IT: nada
1210 AD (1) Houston, Uni>Stock Exchange.
Dallas, rax>inf.
Swapped Buffalo to a Uni.
Seattle, Settler>worker. 4 settlers should be enough to start with.
Building Units everywhere else. Turn science down a notch. Still get Motor Trans. in 3 but it cuts the bleeding in half.
Oh, the Babs are a democracy again.
Everyone is down 3 techs except Joan who is even with us.
IT: nada
1220 AD (2) Building military.
IT: nada
1230 AD (3) Same.
IT: nada
1240 AD (4) Motorized Transportation comes in. Hmmm, Joan will give all her gold plus gpt for it. I think she is researching Flight (or Amphibious War). I am going to turn off research for 1 turn and then check next turn to see if the price stays the same.
Everything that has a rax is swapped to Tanks.
IT: nada
1250 AD (5) Buffalo, Uni>Tank.
I was right, Joan has flight. Which brings us to this .
We get Flight, and we are in the Modern Age! [dance]
[dance]
Research set to Computers due in 11. Here is my reasoning:
Get computers and we can upgrade our infantry to Mechs; our tanks and conquered cities will be better defended. Second go straight to Miniaturization and build the Internet (with a prebuild of course
) and trigger the GA. This will get us free Research Labs everywhere and then we will be able to smoke through Rocketry, Ecology and Synthetic Fibers to get to Modern Armor. With the increased research capacity from the labs and GA, I dont think it will delay MAs that much, as opposed to researching those 3 techs without the boost. Yes, we still have to research 2 techs without the boost but still, if we can research at a 4 or 5 turn pace in the GA with research labs
..
As for production in the GA, just keep building tanks and then upgrade when we can.
Heres another way to look at it. We only need 5 techs in the modern age. Lets use the power of the free research labs and the Golden Age to do 3 of them.
I hope this wasnt
Ill be interested in what you think of this Sirp, and everyone else as well.
IT: nada
Continued in next post due to image count.
Boston is going back to a worker a turn for a while. I got it to +20 fpt and 12 spt.
IT: nada
1210 AD (1) Houston, Uni>Stock Exchange.
Dallas, rax>inf.
Swapped Buffalo to a Uni.
Seattle, Settler>worker. 4 settlers should be enough to start with.
Building Units everywhere else. Turn science down a notch. Still get Motor Trans. in 3 but it cuts the bleeding in half.
Oh, the Babs are a democracy again.
Everyone is down 3 techs except Joan who is even with us.IT: nada
1220 AD (2) Building military.
IT: nada
1230 AD (3) Same.
IT: nada
1240 AD (4) Motorized Transportation comes in. Hmmm, Joan will give all her gold plus gpt for it. I think she is researching Flight (or Amphibious War). I am going to turn off research for 1 turn and then check next turn to see if the price stays the same.
Everything that has a rax is swapped to Tanks.
IT: nada
1250 AD (5) Buffalo, Uni>Tank.
I was right, Joan has flight. Which brings us to this .
We get Flight, and we are in the Modern Age! [dance]
[dance]Research set to Computers due in 11. Here is my reasoning:
Get computers and we can upgrade our infantry to Mechs; our tanks and conquered cities will be better defended. Second go straight to Miniaturization and build the Internet (with a prebuild of course
) and trigger the GA. This will get us free Research Labs everywhere and then we will be able to smoke through Rocketry, Ecology and Synthetic Fibers to get to Modern Armor. With the increased research capacity from the labs and GA, I dont think it will delay MAs that much, as opposed to researching those 3 techs without the boost. Yes, we still have to research 2 techs without the boost but still, if we can research at a 4 or 5 turn pace in the GA with research labs
..As for production in the GA, just keep building tanks and then upgrade when we can.
Heres another way to look at it. We only need 5 techs in the modern age. Lets use the power of the free research labs and the Golden Age to do 3 of them.
I hope this wasnt
Ill be interested in what you think of this Sirp, and everyone else as well.
IT: nada
Continued in next post due to image count.
1255 AD (6) Our first Battleship completes in Salonika. Its building another. I dont want our coast harassed. More tanks come off the line. I also built 5 radar towers in strategic locations along our border.
IT: nada
1260 AD (7) Hammis research is starting to get cranked up. He has gotten his hands on combustion and radio in the last 5 turns. Probably bought 1 and researched 1.
The price for Motor Trans to Joan has not come down. I think she is going after Amphib War.
Hmmm, I would be tempted to steal it just so U.S. Marines could take Grand River along with Sun Tzus, early in these wars. 
IT: We will be at war with Hiawatha when we go after Joan. They signed a MPP this turn. Hmmm .that marine idea is sounding better and better.
Babs and Iroquois sign an MPP as well.
1265 AD (8) More tanks.
IT: nada
1270 AD (9) More tanks. I was right. Joan has Amphib now. Ill let Renata decide if she wants it bad enough to steal it. That idea is starting to grow on me.
We would have to build some transports though.
Science comes down a notch. Computers still due in 7, but this stops some of the bleeding.
IT: nada
1275 AD (10) I cleaned up the pollution this turn and thats it.
Summary:
The time has come to declare war on the French.
Renata, I am going to let you have the honor. There are 33 tanks in St. Louis at your disposal. Most of our artillery and a good chunk of our infantry are in that city as well.
My suggestion is to declare and attack on this turn. You should be able to blow right thru Urfa and Dijon. You will notice that I have built radar towers on the border at those 2 cities. Joan does not have tanks yet, but she will shortly.
Remember that attacking her is going to bring in Hiawatha via MPP.
I would be tempted to keep going across and take Ankara from Osman as well for the gems. There should be enough units on the border with Toku to cover our backside.
One more thing, you have to MM Boston every turn if want to keep it at a worker a turn. Damn governor.
Thats all I can think of now.
the crap out of them Renata!
Oh and I'll see what I can do about finding Hobbes for you.
IT: nada
1260 AD (7) Hammis research is starting to get cranked up. He has gotten his hands on combustion and radio in the last 5 turns. Probably bought 1 and researched 1.
The price for Motor Trans to Joan has not come down. I think she is going after Amphib War.
Hmmm, I would be tempted to steal it just so U.S. Marines could take Grand River along with Sun Tzus, early in these wars. IT: We will be at war with Hiawatha when we go after Joan. They signed a MPP this turn. Hmmm .that marine idea is sounding better and better.
Babs and Iroquois sign an MPP as well.
1265 AD (8) More tanks.
IT: nada
1270 AD (9) More tanks. I was right. Joan has Amphib now. Ill let Renata decide if she wants it bad enough to steal it. That idea is starting to grow on me.
We would have to build some transports though.
Science comes down a notch. Computers still due in 7, but this stops some of the bleeding.
IT: nada
1275 AD (10) I cleaned up the pollution this turn and thats it.
Summary:
The time has come to declare war on the French.
Renata, I am going to let you have the honor. There are 33 tanks in St. Louis at your disposal. Most of our artillery and a good chunk of our infantry are in that city as well.
My suggestion is to declare and attack on this turn. You should be able to blow right thru Urfa and Dijon. You will notice that I have built radar towers on the border at those 2 cities. Joan does not have tanks yet, but she will shortly.
Remember that attacking her is going to bring in Hiawatha via MPP.
I would be tempted to keep going across and take Ankara from Osman as well for the gems. There should be enough units on the border with Toku to cover our backside.
One more thing, you have to MM Boston every turn if want to keep it at a worker a turn. Damn governor.
Thats all I can think of now.
the crap out of them Renata!Oh and I'll see what I can do about finding Hobbes for you.
Ok, we're doing well 
It sounds like we might have to force Babylon and others out of representative governments. Are they still in Communism at the moment?
I'm really not sure if getting computers was a good idea. Yes we'd like our golden age, but.....at this rate it's almost assured that Computers is going to be fairly well-spread around by the time war comes. The most important thing by far is being able to have our MAs go against infantry instead of MIs. Still...that might be unavoidable anyway.
So, I have to say that I'm not sure about that move. I see the logic behind it though.
Oh and.....I must admit I don't even recognize the character in Matt's avatar...might be a character whose not popular in Australia, or I might just be uncultured; do explain though
-Sirp.
It sounds like we might have to force Babylon and others out of representative governments. Are they still in Communism at the moment?
I'm really not sure if getting computers was a good idea. Yes we'd like our golden age, but.....at this rate it's almost assured that Computers is going to be fairly well-spread around by the time war comes. The most important thing by far is being able to have our MAs go against infantry instead of MIs. Still...that might be unavoidable anyway.
So, I have to say that I'm not sure about that move. I see the logic behind it though.
Oh and.....I must admit I don't even recognize the character in Matt's avatar...might be a character whose not popular in Australia, or I might just be uncultured; do explain though
-Sirp.
bewareofgnomes
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lurker's comment: i believe that his is calvin from the popoluar comic calvin and hobbes. [lurk]
Japan, Babylon, and France are in Democracy.
Ottoman's and Iro's are still in Communism.
No way. I mean eventually yeah, but not for a while. Renata can and should start the war on this preturn. Right now.
Joanie is still in the Industrial age and will be knocked out of Democracy in 2 turns I bet. She still doesn't have Motorized Transportation. Hammie still lacks Flight and Motor.
Toku lacks Flight, Motor and Radio. We could raze a couple of Hammie's cities while we are in the neighborhood..........
Oh and.....I must admit I don't even recognize the character in Matt's avatar...might be a character whose not popular in Australia, or I might just be uncultured; do explain though
That's Calvin.
of Calvin and Hobbes fame. It was a very popular comic strip here in the States several years ago. Bill Watterson, the author quit writing it in '93 or '94 IIRC. It was absolutely hilarious. The best comic strip ever written IMHO. You can find some of the strips on the web if you do a google search.What do you all think of me getting an MPP with Hiawatha, then declaring war on Joanie and letting her take the first shot? Ideally, it'd bring Hammy into the dogpile against her as well, and keep the whole western half of the continent busy while we went after Tokugawa or Osman.
I got it, but need to do some online apartment hunting for a while so have a couple hours to field ideas.
@ Matt - thanks!
Renata
I got it, but need to do some online apartment hunting for a while so have a couple hours to field ideas.
@ Matt - thanks!
Renata
Matt: sorry, I meant "by the time war with modern armors comes".
Anyhow, my suggestion is for us to try to trigger a massive war between two factions. Sign MPPs or MAs with the civs that don't have MPPs with France, and embroil everyone in a world war. If we can accumulate seven or eight luxuries, we should be able to handle war weariness with no problems.
Oh and yeah I have seen Calvin & Hobbes, although I must admit I have never seen it as being *that* funny, but then I haven't seen that many strips. My favorite strip is Dilbert...hmm...that could make a cool avatar...
Oh and bewareofgnomes, I'm honored by your signature
EDIT (just saw Renata's post): I'm not sure Renata, but I thought that declaring war on someone is considered an act of war itself, and will immediately trigger the MPP, no? I understood that it's only when someone declares war on you and they have an MPP that you can avoid triggering it by never attacking them. I'm not sure on that though.
Anyway I'm not sure we *want* a dogpile, we want two nice big factions. Like maybe the Ottomans, Japanese, and us vs the French, Iroquois and Babylonians. Also remember that a declaration of war against us will *reduce* war weariness, so having the Iroquois declare war wouldn't be so bad in this regard.
I will leave the warfare in your *very* capable hands Renata; it's not quite a beachhead invasion, but hopefully it's nice and challenging. Oh and yeah I'm really liking the idea of those marines. Put a heap of them on a ship and expect Renata to take a whole heap of cities with them
-Sirp.
Anyhow, my suggestion is for us to try to trigger a massive war between two factions. Sign MPPs or MAs with the civs that don't have MPPs with France, and embroil everyone in a world war. If we can accumulate seven or eight luxuries, we should be able to handle war weariness with no problems.
Oh and yeah I have seen Calvin & Hobbes, although I must admit I have never seen it as being *that* funny, but then I haven't seen that many strips. My favorite strip is Dilbert...hmm...that could make a cool avatar...
Oh and bewareofgnomes, I'm honored by your signature
EDIT (just saw Renata's post): I'm not sure Renata, but I thought that declaring war on someone is considered an act of war itself, and will immediately trigger the MPP, no? I understood that it's only when someone declares war on you and they have an MPP that you can avoid triggering it by never attacking them. I'm not sure on that though.
Anyway I'm not sure we *want* a dogpile, we want two nice big factions. Like maybe the Ottomans, Japanese, and us vs the French, Iroquois and Babylonians. Also remember that a declaration of war against us will *reduce* war weariness, so having the Iroquois declare war wouldn't be so bad in this regard.
I will leave the warfare in your *very* capable hands Renata; it's not quite a beachhead invasion, but hopefully it's nice and challenging. Oh and yeah I'm really liking the idea of those marines. Put a heap of them on a ship and expect Renata to take a whole heap of cities with them
-Sirp.
*cough* no marines *cough*
Seriously, I think I'll have my hands full without (although some transports would be useful if future strategy needs them). I may just try the tech steal anyway; as you say, a war declaration against us, if it comes, would not be unwelcome.
As to your points: First, the MPP will *not* be triggered simply by me declaring war on France. I did the exact thing I suggested above in GOTM 18. I had just taken out Carthage and wanted to go after the Iroquois, but France had just MPPd with the Iroquois (eerily familiar, eh?), and Japan with France. Since I was going for a fast-as-possible spaceship, I didn't have enough units around to defend two fronts. So I got an MPP with Japan and France, declared war on the Iroquois, and then let them have the first shot. They took out a couple of my workers (I actually hadn't even intended to leave such nice bait, but I'd forgotten about an Iroquois ROP with Greece that let them get at them), and both France and Japan came in the war on my side. Worked like a charm.
My preference for going after Toku first lies with his oil sources: he's the only civ that has two, and therefore the only civ that can trade oil - something that could be very important shortly (Ottos, Babs and Iroquois have the other three sources, if none of them have moved). On the other hand, he does have twice as many productive cities as anyone else ... so who knows.
Renata
Seriously, I think I'll have my hands full without (although some transports would be useful if future strategy needs them). I may just try the tech steal anyway; as you say, a war declaration against us, if it comes, would not be unwelcome.As to your points: First, the MPP will *not* be triggered simply by me declaring war on France. I did the exact thing I suggested above in GOTM 18. I had just taken out Carthage and wanted to go after the Iroquois, but France had just MPPd with the Iroquois (eerily familiar, eh?), and Japan with France. Since I was going for a fast-as-possible spaceship, I didn't have enough units around to defend two fronts. So I got an MPP with Japan and France, declared war on the Iroquois, and then let them have the first shot. They took out a couple of my workers (I actually hadn't even intended to leave such nice bait, but I'd forgotten about an Iroquois ROP with Greece that let them get at them), and both France and Japan came in the war on my side. Worked like a charm.
My preference for going after Toku first lies with his oil sources: he's the only civ that has two, and therefore the only civ that can trade oil - something that could be very important shortly (Ottos, Babs and Iroquois have the other three sources, if none of them have moved). On the other hand, he does have twice as many productive cities as anyone else ... so who knows.
Renata
That sounds like a good strategy, Renata, but do remember to raze those French cities. We do want to force them out of democracy with piles of war weariness.
Feel free to take less than 10 turns if it's taking a long time. Modern age ways take a *long* time. Oh and good to see someone on the team knows how MPPs work
Oh and, very cute avatar and status line. Much more original than 'princess' I must admit
-Sirp.
Feel free to take less than 10 turns if it's taking a long time. Modern age ways take a *long* time. Oh and good to see someone on the team knows how MPPs work
Oh and, very cute avatar and status line. Much more original than 'princess' I must admit
-Sirp.
(re the avatar)In the end I did it your way, Sirp. In part out of insecurity, but also because I've incited dogpiles before, but never fomented a world war. Had to add another notch on my evil world conqueror belt.
Anyway, it worked. Played 6+ turns before I started passing out, will leave the hard stuff for Borealis. Uploading various odds and ends now.Renata
The teaser - 1310 AD world map.
But all the hard stuff is left for Borealis - I just wiped out the hinterlands.
Preturn (1275) I stole amphibious warfare off Joan, hoping to get her to declare war, but it didn't work. Or rather, it did.
So I declared war myself, then got MPPs with the Ottomans and Japanese for a tech each. Thought twice and went back and got ROPs as well, which were free. On the first (pre)turn, the toll was Urfa and Dijon (French, both razed and replaced), then through Ottoman territory to take Frankfurt (French), Hannover (Iroquois - the MPP with France had already triggered), and Berlin (Babylonian - MPP with Iroquois). Berlin got us a source of wines, which were hooked up the next turn, partly making up for our two lost lux. It also got us
Wheeee! Needless to say, I didn't raze Berlin. I kept all the other ex-German towns, too.
And then I held my breath, hoping the MPPs would trigger properly, and no one else would come in against us; happily it all worked out as planned. The Japanese took Bremen on the first interturn.
(1280 ad) The wars freed up a lux each from Japan and the Ottomans, which I purchased with cash. That plus the wines, plus Sistine put us in a fairly decent happiness situation. Japan was already back in anarchy. I planted a spy in the Iroquois capital, having forgotten to earlier, but the Babylonian attempt failed.
Next interturn was the heaviest counterattack I faced all six turns: about six cav versus Hannover, which held with no losses.
1285 AD: The French and Iroquois cities of Bonn, Heidelberg and Nuremberg were all captured. Konigsberg was autorazed and replaced with Kansas City. Somewhere in here I got my first leader, and used it for a tank army.
1290 AD: The Iroquois city of Cologne (with oil under it) was taken with bombardment plus cavs after the Ottomans started getting too close. Stuttgart (Iroquois) was also taken. On the following interturn, the furs deal with Osman was renewed.
1295 AD: Babylon's turn to go into anarchy! I managed to get a spy in Babylon as well. A bunch of interfering Japanese units finally cleared out of the way to Izibia (Iroquois), near the choke, and I autorazed that city. (It got replaced the following turn, since the culture borders got in the way.)
1300 AD: Babylonian city of Sippar was razed and replaced with Richmond. Somewhere in here, Boston was switched to a one-every-two-turns settler duty, since the available workers seemed to be keeping up with things well enough. I checked diplomacy this turn, since everyone would talk. France and Babylon both had picked up motorized transport, as had the Ottomans. (Babylon has oil, France does not.) I got trade embargoes with the Japanese against France and the Iroquois just for the heck of it. Also noticed there's a French citizen stirring up a ruckus in Miami -
. Not a problem so far, though. Set up to siege Rouen, but it was razed by the Ottomans on the interturn.
1305 ad: Got computers, research was set to miniaturization. We were starting to get a little low on cash, so I didn't upgrade anything, and I started to send unit builds to the new corrupt cities for disbanding instead of keeping them (our army size seemed to be sufficient for now). With the Ottomans having destroyed Rouen, there was nothing much to attack. I sent a few sappers and a stack of units to the jungle west of former Izibia (can't remember what it was named and didn't write it down) for roading and moving into Babylonian territory the next turn, and leader-fished against a few stray units. One of the Babylonian ones was protecting a leader, which was duly killed, and another one was kind enough to generate a leader of our own, which was sent to Washington to rush SETI.
The first Babylonian tanks were spotted on the interturn, but none attacked my stack of doom near former Izibia.
1310 AD: (turn 7) SETI built in Washington, and ....
LOL SETI for expansionist, I assume, and Hoover for industrious? At any rate, we have our golden age! I wasn't expecting that at all.
At this point I decided to call it a night. I'm not sure of the cost-benefit right now on whether or not to research minitaturization. We don't need internet for our golden age, obviously, but it might still be useful to speed research (3 techs not counting miniaturization to get to modern armor) -- we're bleeding a fair bit of cash to research at any reasonable speed. Right now I have research still set to miniaturization, due in 9. I can't remember whether or not I switched New York from Heroic Epic (due next turn) to the palace - if that is done, it would also be due in 9. In any case, Borealis can do the math.
On the war front, things have been going very smoothly, largely, no doubt, because I've been attacking the hinterlands, and because the allies have been doing a good job of running interference. (Too good in a few cases, getting in the way.) We've only lost about 8 tanks. I started buiding a few transports to have handy in case anyone wants to get fancier than brute-force-up-the-middle attacking. So far the worst navy I've seen is a whole bunch of ironclads harassing the former German territory (France landed a single cav there on the last interturn and has a galleon off the coast now), but Babylon at least should be capable now of turning out some real ships.
Can't think of anything else right now. The game is saved at the *start* of 1310 (turn 7). And oh yeah - France is still a democracy, the buggers. I don't know how on earth they're doing it.
1310 AD
Enjoy!
Edit: Remembered one more thing. The settler to replace Rouen is in Boston, which just might be able to get to a settler-per-turn during the golden age if it's allowed to grow from a size-10 base up a notch or two. Might be worth looking into if there's going to be a lot of razing coming up.
Renata
But all the hard stuff is left for Borealis - I just wiped out the hinterlands.
Preturn (1275) I stole amphibious warfare off Joan, hoping to get her to declare war, but it didn't work. Or rather, it did.
So I declared war myself, then got MPPs with the Ottomans and Japanese for a tech each. Thought twice and went back and got ROPs as well, which were free. On the first (pre)turn, the toll was Urfa and Dijon (French, both razed and replaced), then through Ottoman territory to take Frankfurt (French), Hannover (Iroquois - the MPP with France had already triggered), and Berlin (Babylonian - MPP with Iroquois). Berlin got us a source of wines, which were hooked up the next turn, partly making up for our two lost lux. It also got us
Wheeee! Needless to say, I didn't raze Berlin. I kept all the other ex-German towns, too.
And then I held my breath, hoping the MPPs would trigger properly, and no one else would come in against us; happily it all worked out as planned.
The Japanese took Bremen on the first interturn.(1280 ad) The wars freed up a lux each from Japan and the Ottomans, which I purchased with cash. That plus the wines, plus Sistine put us in a fairly decent happiness situation. Japan was already back in anarchy. I planted a spy in the Iroquois capital, having forgotten to earlier, but the Babylonian attempt failed.
Next interturn was the heaviest counterattack I faced all six turns: about six cav versus Hannover, which held with no losses.
1285 AD: The French and Iroquois cities of Bonn, Heidelberg and Nuremberg were all captured. Konigsberg was autorazed and replaced with Kansas City. Somewhere in here I got my first leader, and used it for a tank army.
1290 AD: The Iroquois city of Cologne (with oil under it) was taken with bombardment plus cavs after the Ottomans started getting too close. Stuttgart (Iroquois) was also taken. On the following interturn, the furs deal with Osman was renewed.
1295 AD: Babylon's turn to go into anarchy! I managed to get a spy in Babylon as well. A bunch of interfering Japanese units finally cleared out of the way to Izibia (Iroquois), near the choke, and I autorazed that city. (It got replaced the following turn, since the culture borders got in the way.)
1300 AD: Babylonian city of Sippar was razed and replaced with Richmond. Somewhere in here, Boston was switched to a one-every-two-turns settler duty, since the available workers seemed to be keeping up with things well enough. I checked diplomacy this turn, since everyone would talk. France and Babylon both had picked up motorized transport, as had the Ottomans. (Babylon has oil, France does not.) I got trade embargoes with the Japanese against France and the Iroquois just for the heck of it. Also noticed there's a French citizen stirring up a ruckus in Miami -
. Not a problem so far, though. Set up to siege Rouen, but it was razed by the Ottomans on the interturn.1305 ad: Got computers, research was set to miniaturization. We were starting to get a little low on cash, so I didn't upgrade anything, and I started to send unit builds to the new corrupt cities for disbanding instead of keeping them (our army size seemed to be sufficient for now). With the Ottomans having destroyed Rouen, there was nothing much to attack. I sent a few sappers and a stack of units to the jungle west of former Izibia (can't remember what it was named and didn't write it down) for roading and moving into Babylonian territory the next turn, and leader-fished against a few stray units. One of the Babylonian ones was protecting a leader, which was duly killed
, and another one was kind enough to generate a leader of our own, which was sent to Washington to rush SETI.The first Babylonian tanks were spotted on the interturn, but none attacked my stack of doom near former Izibia.
1310 AD: (turn 7) SETI built in Washington, and ....
LOL SETI for expansionist, I assume, and Hoover for industrious? At any rate, we have our golden age! I wasn't expecting that at all.
At this point I decided to call it a night. I'm not sure of the cost-benefit right now on whether or not to research minitaturization. We don't need internet for our golden age, obviously, but it might still be useful to speed research (3 techs not counting miniaturization to get to modern armor) -- we're bleeding a fair bit of cash to research at any reasonable speed. Right now I have research still set to miniaturization, due in 9. I can't remember whether or not I switched New York from Heroic Epic (due next turn) to the palace - if that is done, it would also be due in 9. In any case, Borealis can do the math.
On the war front, things have been going very smoothly, largely, no doubt, because I've been attacking the hinterlands, and because the allies have been doing a good job of running interference. (Too good in a few cases, getting in the way.) We've only lost about 8 tanks. I started buiding a few transports to have handy in case anyone wants to get fancier than brute-force-up-the-middle attacking. So far the worst navy I've seen is a whole bunch of ironclads harassing the former German territory (France landed a single cav there on the last interturn and has a galleon off the coast now), but Babylon at least should be capable now of turning out some real ships.
Can't think of anything else right now. The game is saved at the *start* of 1310 (turn 7). And oh yeah - France is still a democracy, the buggers. I don't know how on earth they're doing it.
1310 AD
Enjoy!
Edit: Remembered one more thing. The settler to replace Rouen is in Boston, which just might be able to get to a settler-per-turn during the golden age if it's allowed to grow from a size-10 base up a notch or two. Might be worth looking into if there's going to be a lot of razing coming up.
Renata
Semi-edit: I hope I didn't mess up the French war-weariness plan by capturing and abandoning the first two cities as opposed to simply razing them. (I needed to hold the city temporarily if I was going to replace it the same turn, due to culture borders.) My bad if so; I didn't realize that there was really a difference between even straight-out razing and capturing, but the comments in this new thread war weariness implies that there is, although it hasn't been investigated explicitly yet.
At any rate, the Ottos just razed Rouen, so that's gotta help.
Renata
At any rate, the Ottos just razed Rouen, so that's gotta help.
Renata
Way to go Renata!
Re Seti: I thought about mentioning that in my report but thought "there's no way we will build it so don't bother".
I still think we need to snag the Internet. The research labs will help out tremendously with our rate of discovery. Besides a free 200 shield building that produces culture is just to good to pass up.
Now if we can get our hands on Grand River with Sun's for instant barracks for healing purposes, we will be in very good shape.
Hmmm, speaking of getting units healed, we might want to whip out Battlefield Med. somewhere also. Of course with enough slaves getting things railed that may be a waste of shields, especially if we can get Sun Tzu soonish.
Re Seti: I thought about mentioning that in my report but thought "there's no way we will build it so don't bother".
I still think we need to snag the Internet. The research labs will help out tremendously with our rate of discovery. Besides a free 200 shield building that produces culture is just to good to pass up.
Now if we can get our hands on Grand River with Sun's for instant barracks for healing purposes, we will be in very good shape.
Hmmm, speaking of getting units healed, we might want to whip out Battlefield Med. somewhere also. Of course with enough slaves getting things railed that may be a waste of shields, especially if we can get Sun Tzu soonish.
Renata: Nice looking turn
Of course SETI is expansionistic - we want to make contact with an alien civilization and then we can broker techs between them and the civilizations we know on earth! Maybe they are really advanced but skipped getting amphibious warfare or something!
Yeah razing a city will do much more to war weariness than a 'virtual razing', afaik. Would have been nice if you could have razed at least one of the two cities. Refounding could have waited a turn. But.....it shouldn't make much different in the long run
I'm almost certain we do want to get miniturization/the internet next, since it'll probably be worth the research speeding, and it'll also get an automatic cultural building in every city we conquer, which will really speed domination.
(Btw, a wonder giving culture in every city....sheesh, it's not half obvious that PTW's features were written by the marketing department with all the 'uber' powered units and improvements they have...)
I'm not sure who we want to aim for next. Logically we'd want to take out Turkey and Japan and gain control of our sub-continent.
Good luck Borealis!
Oh and btw, nice GOTM result Renata That was a pretty impressive date for a space race victory
(Or, should I say "Great game Renata!" like you suggested you'd like everyone to say? After that exchange between you and Capt Buttkick I just have this picture in my head of half a dozen sycophants running around saying "Great game Renata!" every time you post something )
EDIT: Oh and Matt, getting Battlefield Medicine would be kinda cool...but really, I can't imagine too many situations where we'll have troops sitting in enemy territory wanting to be healed. Blitzkrieg all the way! The time I tend to find Battlefield Medicine useful is if I want to land on an enemy continent, say on some hills or mountains, get some workers to build forts, and just camp there. Of course....in such a case I usually build a settler along to build a city...
-Sirp.
Of course SETI is expansionistic - we want to make contact with an alien civilization and then we can broker techs between them and the civilizations we know on earth! Maybe they are really advanced but skipped getting amphibious warfare or something!
Yeah razing a city will do much more to war weariness than a 'virtual razing', afaik. Would have been nice if you could have razed at least one of the two cities. Refounding could have waited a turn. But.....it shouldn't make much different in the long run
I'm almost certain we do want to get miniturization/the internet next, since it'll probably be worth the research speeding, and it'll also get an automatic cultural building in every city we conquer, which will really speed domination.
(Btw, a wonder giving culture in every city....sheesh, it's not half obvious that PTW's features were written by the marketing department with all the 'uber' powered units and improvements they have...)
I'm not sure who we want to aim for next. Logically we'd want to take out Turkey and Japan and gain control of our sub-continent.
Good luck Borealis!
Oh and btw, nice GOTM result Renata
That was a pretty impressive date for a space race victory (Or, should I say "Great game Renata!" like you suggested you'd like everyone to say? After that exchange between you and Capt Buttkick I just have this picture in my head of half a dozen sycophants running around saying "Great game Renata!" every time you post something
)EDIT: Oh and Matt, getting Battlefield Medicine would be kinda cool...but really, I can't imagine too many situations where we'll have troops sitting in enemy territory wanting to be healed. Blitzkrieg all the way! The time I tend to find Battlefield Medicine useful is if I want to land on an enemy continent, say on some hills or mountains, get some workers to build forts, and just camp there. Of course....in such a case I usually build a settler along to build a city...
-Sirp.
