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- Thread starter Iustus
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Bug with version 25/1
The governer wishes the city to remain stagnant while it could grow (using the sea tiles, it has a lighthouse). I have not pressed the emphasise buttons or anything, this is the default governer.
If it's of any interest, I've received the assert to do with the governer cycling between different plots and putting itself in an infinite loop and pressed always ignore.
I don't normally pay much attention to the city governer, but this does seem to be a bug to me. I'd take a citizen off the plains mine and put him in the water, and keep on until all the water tiles were worked.
I am attaching a saved game.
The governer wishes the city to remain stagnant while it could grow (using the sea tiles, it has a lighthouse). I have not pressed the emphasise buttons or anything, this is the default governer.
If it's of any interest, I've received the assert to do with the governer cycling between different plots and putting itself in an infinite loop and pressed always ignore.
I don't normally pay much attention to the city governer, but this does seem to be a bug to me. I'd take a citizen off the plains mine and put him in the water, and keep on until all the water tiles were worked.
I am attaching a saved game.
Roland Johansen
Deity
The screenshot is a bit small, but it looks as if the city is at the health and happy cap, so growing wouldn't do it any good.
Yes, first thing i looked on too and thought:"this city growing would be a bad idea"
no bug, it is as the governer should govern the city, maxed out till you hit boundaries where it would become unhealthy or unhappy...thank god blake or Iustus made this cap! anyway, im playing now AUTO AI, but standard Civ4 without betterAI doesnt give me this errors, since auto AI is a official option from firaxis, i do consider the messages i got by playing auto AI bugs from the betterAI mod, and not just because im playing AUTO AI..
hwoever, the bug with the units and classes thing is 100% a wrong XML issue, i fixed that...so disregard that bug report..the rest are still to be considered bugs, i do state once again, either better AI itself, or a ViSa mod bug...but since Iustus helped me a great deal on solving my previous bugs, including the CTD i had, i hope he will continue looking at the code helping me out to merge the betterAI bugfree into our SDK
thank you Iustus and Blake!!!
Iustus
King
Assert Failed
File: CvCity.cpp
Line: 7831
Expression: getSpecialistCommerce(eIndex) >= 0
Message:
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Assert Failed
File: CvCity.cpp
Line: 7643
Expression: m_aiCommerceRate[eIndex] >= 0
Message:
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got these at late ages, finally passed the CTD point!
Does ViSa have a specialist that gives negative gold, research, or culture? Some assumptions are being made which it looks like are inaccurate.
This is the error you get when you completely run out of money. It is firing because, at least in theory, it should not happen to computer AIs. This is one you can probably ignore, as the right thing should happen in this case, if you are sure that the AI really should have ran out of money, even at 0% research rate.
-Iustus
This is exactly the case.
Also building a wonder means the governor puts less weight on commerce - it recognizes that growing and working a "-1,0,2" tile (3f eaten by the unhealthy pop) is NOT going to complete that wonder faster... you probably don't ever really want to make a 1f for 2c trade off either, it doesn't hurt to grow in general cases because you can just whip the unhealthy pop but whips don't work well on wonders.
Assert Failed
File: .\CvCityAI.cpp
Line: 5374
Expression: false
Message: infinite loop
File: .\CvCityAI.cpp
Line: 5374
Expression: false
Message: infinite loop
Roland Johansen
Deity
As Blake already said, whipping is not that efficient for wonder building. Wonders have a production penalty when pop rushing (or gold rushing) is used. If I recall correctly, wonders are 50% to 300% more expensive for rushing purposes.
Also, whipping is not that good in a large city with good production tiles that can be used to stop the growth of the city. But I don't know if the governor takes that into account.
Hi Blake, Iustus, my teammate asked me about the starting plot of the settler.
Indeed, randomly, the settler starts not at a blue circled plot.
I saw you changed something somewhere on the routine to estimate the optimal plot to found a city, did you also consider to use the same change to the placement of settlers upon map generation?
We used custom game, continents, rest default when you select the custom game option to start a new game.
btw thanks for the great support you guys are giving!!
Indeed, randomly, the settler starts not at a blue circled plot.
I saw you changed something somewhere on the routine to estimate the optimal plot to found a city, did you also consider to use the same change to the placement of settlers upon map generation?
We used custom game, continents, rest default when you select the custom game option to start a new game.
btw thanks for the great support you guys are giving!!
Uncle_Joe
Prince
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I noticed the Settlers not always starting on a blue circle either. I chalked it up to not having total vision over the starting 'fat cross' that would be provided by the starting spot. I have never actually tested that theory though (ie, by exploring a bit before building the capital and seeing if that would put a circle on the original starting spot).
well. I found the starting plot to be of the most important decision in all your game, sometimes i get a spot where i build barracs from start in 20turns, the next time i need 90turns to build them, a huge disadvantage of course...the routine to decide the starting plot, should:
1) see everything of the map, also what's beneath the FoW, to decide your best spot
2) all players should start around the same places, because really, the spot where you start is all it's about...i sometimes just restart 3 or 4 times just to get a nice spot
should be included in the betterAI to just get our settlers at the optimal spot, which should be coloured blue or maybe the first plot even get a complete different colour, like purple, to point out, in your nearest area, this is above all other plots the optimal plot to start your first city..that's something i like to see in the betterAI
1) see everything of the map, also what's beneath the FoW, to decide your best spot
2) all players should start around the same places, because really, the spot where you start is all it's about...i sometimes just restart 3 or 4 times just to get a nice spot
should be included in the betterAI to just get our settlers at the optimal spot, which should be coloured blue
or maybe the first plot even get a complete different colour, like purple, to point out, in your nearest area, this is above all other plots the optimal plot to start your first city..that's something i like to see in the betterAI
jkp1187
Unindicted Co-Conspirator
Although I switched to Nationhood, I find that I am unable to use the "draft" function in any city, regardless of size or culture. Or am I missing/forgetting something?
1/25 build/small map/techtonics/8 civs
See attached.
1/25 build/small map/techtonics/8 civs
See attached.
JMaltman
Prince
Just got the exact same one. It was his capital, if that means anything else.
Code:
Assert Failed
File: CvPlayer.cpp
Line: 10486
Expression: getUnitClassCount(eIndex) <= GC.getUnitClassInfo(eIndex).getMaxPlayerInstances()
Message: getUnitClassCount is expected to be less than maximum bound of MaxPlayerInstances (invalid index)
----------------------------------------------------------next one i got..btw your info did indeed solve the other Fassert messages..fixed them now by editing the XML properly ..
Iustus
King
Both fixed. (Actually two different bugs, although they triggered the same assert.) (One was caused by transport stacks trying to bombard the wrong city, the other was caused by lakes that are next to the ocean but unreachable).
Keep the bug reports coming.
-Iustus
Iustus
King
Actually, you posted saves for the wrong bug. Sorry I did not get back to you until now, I didnt catch that until my last past through, when I decided to revisit this one.
I need a save one turn before your 710 game, not the ones in the 1800s, that bug is already fixed.
Thanks again
-Iustus
Hotseat Game.
07-01-25 Build
On a side note, I never saw the error message when I was running fullscreen mode. It would just freeze the game.
And completely unrelated to bugs, it looks like Brennus is planning to backstab me, despite our +22 friendly relations. Thats what I get for feeding him all my Military techs.
07-01-25 Build
Error is generated when I take the barbarian city of Olmec using my one Grenadier directly to the north.
On a side note, I never saw the error message when I was running fullscreen mode. It would just freeze the game.
And completely unrelated to bugs, it looks like Brennus is planning to backstab me, despite our +22 friendly relations. Thats what I get for feeding him all my Military techs.
JMaltman
Prince
07-01-25 Build
Assert Failed
File: .\CvGlobals.cpp
Line: 1897
Expression: eTechNum > -1
Message:
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I have just Scientific Method left to research. Do you need the save, or is that enough?
Whoa!
Right after I typed this in, the game crashed. Before that I just had to tab over to the assert, then tab back.
So all you should have to do is end turn.
Assert Failed
File: .\CvGlobals.cpp
Line: 1897
Expression: eTechNum > -1
Message:
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I have just Scientific Method left to research. Do you need the save, or is that enough?
Whoa!
Right after I typed this in, the game crashed. Before that I just had to tab over to the assert, then tab back.
So all you should have to do is end turn.
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