kryszcztov
GOTM 25 - treat game
PTW 1.27f - Predator
Well, I've just finished my treat game ! It was a good game to learn the might of the new Mongol units. I'm sorry, I'll only post my log, so it's not very entertaining.
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0- 3850BC : Kill some barbs.
1- 3800BC : Son Buddhism discovered ??? (EDIT : hehe, Great Library !)
Ta-tu, Hovd, Darhan, Dalandzadgad : barracks (rushed).
Karakorum, Kazan, Almarikh, Tabriz, Ulaanbaatar, Mandalgovi : bagatur hordes (rushed).
Kill some barbs over a hut in the north, pop it : an advanced tribe ! Choybalsan founded.
Edernet founded in the south.
2- 3750BC : Establish an embassy with the Iroquois (they're having a Golden Age), and the Germans. Both capitals are building a wonder.
I give ivory + WM to Hiawatha for wines + WM.
Kill some barbs.
3- 3700BC : Choybalsan : temple (rushed).
Erdenet : barracks (rushed).
All other cities : bagatur hordes (rushed).
DAMN IT ! My 1st loss : a standard bagatur horde falls to a Pictish warrior ! Kill some barbs.
4- 3650BC : Kill some barbs.
5- 3600BC : Choybalsan : barracks (rushed).
Erdenet : mangudai bowman (rushed), immediately upgraded to khorchin.
All other cities : khorchins (rushed).
I have an average military compared to the Germans (with no defense), but both the Germans and the Iroquois now have Gunpowder. Hey, wait, I have the Great Library !!
6- 3550BC : Gunpowder discovered. Germans have a source of saltpeter, but it's not hooked yet. Iroquois have one that is just outside their territory now.
Science turned off.
7- 3500BC : Choybalsan : mangudai bowman (rushed).
All other cities : ordu archers (rushed).
8- 3450BC : The Germans almost didn't touch their money. Time to go to war... I declare war on the Germans. I sign a military alliance with Hiawatha for WM + 412 gold.
Upon the 1st unit killed (by lethal bombardment from a khorchin), the Mongols enter a Golden age !
Lose 1 bagatur. Capture Leignitz, getting wool, denying iron to the Germans.
IT : Lose 2 ordus, I didn't see how their knights came...
9- 3400BC : Dalandzadgad : pikeman (rushed).
Choybalsan : spearman (rushed).
Edernet : pikeman (rushed).
Get my 1st leader : Ogodei ! He builds an army.
10- 3350BC : Leignitz : barracks (rushed).
Kazan, Tabriz : pikeman.
Lose 2 reg ordus (wanted them to promote).
Capture Konigsberg, Frankfurt.
IT : Lose a vet bagatur.
11- 3300BC : Karakorum : turghaut.
Ulaanbaatar : pikeman.
Archer upgraded to khorchin.
STOP TALKING ABOUT UNITS' PRODUCTION.
12- 3250BC : Discover Education through the Library.
Leignitz : walls (rushed).
Lose 2 bagaturs.
Capture : Leipzig (last defender was lethal-bombarded by a khorchin which didn't march into the city), getting horses, and Berlin, getting the Pyramids and wines.
IT : Lose 1 khorchin.
13- 3200BC : Konigsberg, Frankfurt : barracks (rushed).
Lose 2 bagaturs.
Capture Heidelburg.
IT : Lose 1 ordu.
14- 3150BC : Berlin : barracks (rushed).
Leignitz : temple (rushed).
Lose 3 bagaturs.
Capture Hamburg, getting wool.
15- 3100BC : Leipzeig : barracks (rushed).
Konigsberg, Frankfurt : walls (rushed).
Capture Hannover, getting saltpeter.
16- 3050BC : Ulaanbaatar : aqueduct (rushed).
Berlin : walls (rushed).
Capture Munich.
IT : Lose 1 bagatur.
17- 3000BC : Leipzig : walls (rushed).
Konigsberg, Frankfurt : temple (rushed).
Heidelburg : barracks (rushed).
Capture Nuremberg.
18- 2950BC : Berlin : temple (rushed).
Munich, Hamburg : barracks (rushed).
Lose 1 bagatur.
Capture Cologne.
19- 2900BC : Leipzig, Heidelburg : temple (rushed).
Nuremberg : barracks (rushed).
20- 2850BC : Kazan : aqueduct (rushed).
Darhan, Munich, Dalandzadgad, Erdenet : temple (rushed).
Cologne, Hannover : barracks (rushed).
Choybalsan : walls (rushed).
21- 2800BC : zzz
22- 2750BC : Ta-Tu : aqueduct (rushed).
Hamburg : walls (rushed).
I cancel the ivory for wine deal, since I have wines now.
23- 2710BC : zzz
IT : Iroquois capture Bremen.
24- 2670BC : Mandalgovi : temple (rushed).
Destroy Stuttgart, thus destroying the Germans (nice last gold pillage).
I give WM + 61 gold to Hiawatha for WM.
I declare war on the Iroquois.
Capture Tonawanda, getting gems.
25- 2630BC : Hovd : aqueduct (rushed).
Nuremberg, Hamburg : temple (rushed).
Dalandzadgad : walls (rushed).
Get my 2nd leader : Jochi !
Here you can see my trap : the main Iroquois forces were sent after the Germans and their last city (Bremen). Now that a lot of them are stucked in the jungle, I lock them with ordus and khorchins on mountains, ready to fire arrows on every knight...
IT : The Iroquois worker who was roading the saltpeter source has left his job unfinished !
26- 2590BC : Tonawanda : barracks (rushed).
Lose 2 bagaturs.
Capture Oil Springs.
27- 2550BC : Konigsberg : aqueduct (rushed).
Cologne, Hannover : temple (rushed).
Leader rushes the FP.
Capture Tyendenaga.
Get my 3rd leader : Chagatai !
Leader rushes Leonardo.
Destroy Oka.
The Iroquois knights army has almost been crushed, near Bremen.
IT : Lose 1 ordu.
28- 2510BC : Leipzig : Forbidden Palace (rushed).
Nuremberg : Leonardo's Workshop (rushed).
Tonawanda : temple (rushed).
Lose 1 ordu.
Get my 4th leader : Tolui !
End of Golden Age.
29- 2470BC : Oil Springs, Tyendenaga : barracks (rushed).
Lose 1 bagatur.
Capture Akwesasne, getting furs.
30- 2430BC : Tonawanda : walls (rushed).
31- 2390BC : Akwesasne : temple (rushed).
Lose 1 ordu, 3 bagaturs.
Capture Bremen.
Leader rushes Hanging Gardens.
Capture Allegheny and Cattaraugus.
32- 2350BC : Almarikh : Hanging Gardens (rushed).
Capture Grand River.
33- 2310BC : Allegheny : barracks (rushed).
Oil Springs, Tyendenaga, Bremen : temple (rushed).
Akwesasne : walls (rushed).
Lose 1 bagatur.
Capture Centralia and Chondote (getting spices).
The army is eventually loaded with the 3 elite bagaturs who got me leaders.
IT : Lose 1 turghaut. Lose 1 worker to the barbs.
34- 2270BC : Grand River, Cattagaurus : barracks (rushed).
Lose 1 bagatur.
Capture Ganogeh and Kahnawake.
35- 2230BC : Oil Springs, Tyendenaga : walls (rushed).
1st army victory ; the army doesn't have the bombardment ability ?
Lose 1 bagatur.
Capture Salamanca, the capital.
36- 2190BC : Kahnawake, Ganogeh : temple (rushed).
Capture Gandasetaigon and Mauch Chunk.
Get my 5th leader : Kublai !
Leader rushes Sun Tzu.
37- 2150BC : Cattagaurus : Sun Tzu's Art of War (rushed).
Destroy a barb camp.
Capture St. Regis.
38- 2110BC : Gandasetaigon : temple (rushed).
Lose 5 bagaturs and 1 khorchin.
Capture Caughnawaga, getting incense, and Niagara Falls.
Fail to capture the last Iroquois city (Gayagaahe), maybe because of bad units management...
39- 2070BC : Domination victory !
If I had been wise, I think I could have achieved a Conquest Victory on the same turn. I checked afterwards, and there was no settler on a boat.
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Domination victory
end date : 2070BC
score : 27368
time : 15h48m54s
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A very entertainging game !
Now to move up to GOTM 25... after reading your games too.
I have a question : I don't really know how the bombardment feature works in Civ3.
All I know is that catapults and cannons suck for city seiges, and therefore are usefull in AW games only, and that it's better to wait for arties... But I don't know the maths for all of that. Even though I've already made most of my thoughts on these units, I'd like someone to explain or provide a link. Thanks a lot.