Spring Patch - AI domination combat test

[V. Soma]

Game:
deity
standard speed
pangea
duel size
high sea water
information era start
no barbs
no villages
no CSs
domination only
no turn limit
I am Egypt


PLAY:
meet Aztec and declare war - no own units, only capitaly city

416 - start, my city founded
421 - meet Aztecs - delete all own units
I have three tiles worked, just to see if Aztecs will pillage
423 - I declare war (I forgot it before)
Aztecs are ca 12 tiles away
427 - Aztecs settle a city

435 - Aztec ranger corps appears and pillages my uranium mine
436 - ranger corps attacks city
439 - 453 ranger corps attacks city, EVERY turn
455 - Aztec add a new city
456 - 466 ranger corps attacks city, EVERY turn
467 - Aztec ranger corp moved a tile and then continues attack
468 - Another Aztec ranger comes next to my city
469-470 - only the solo ranger attacks
471 - solo ranger joins the corps to form army!
472 - ranger army attacks
476 - a machine gun corp appears near
477 - machine gun corp moves next to my city
478 - ONLY ranger army attacks, infantry army appears near
478 - ONLY ranger army attacks, infantry army stays away from city and waits
lone Aztec settler is wandering near
479 - infantry army moves next to my city
now there are machin guns, and rangers too there
another infantry corps appears near - quite some forces here!
Aztecs settle city near me
480 - infantry army attacks and it is over…

Interesting - all in all, I find it an improvement,
next I will test the same but with my city shooting and having a def range unit in my city shooting

 

[DemonMaster]

I was just taken out by Cleo on King (yes King). Normally you don't have to worry so much about these things, especially not from her. It happen very early. I had two warriors and a slinger (upgraded to archer during the war). Kudos to her that she actually attacked my capital repeatedly and not started to wandering around looking at the birds all of a sudden as they sometimes do.
Lesson: Obviously I have to play less arrogant in my next game.

hm, Cleo of all people.

 

[Gort]

This sounds highly encouraging. I look forward to seeing more test results - thanks for doing this, Soma.

 

[V. Soma]

TEST 2

pangea
duel size
high sea water
information era start
no barbs
no vilages
no CSs
game is 500 turns
domination only

meet Aztec and dedclare war - only capital,
use city attack, has active arty army in capital

416 - start, my city founded
424 - meet Aztec - declare war, delete all units
Aztec is ca 25 tiles away, rough terrain
428 - ranger corp (RC) appears
429 - RC moves on my coal mine - I shoot it to 50% - RC moves away
432 - I have my first arty
436 - healed RC is back on my coal mine - I shoot it to 20% - RC moves away
442 - Aztec has new city
444 - healed RC is back on the coal mine - I shoot it to 15% - RC moves away
446 - I have arty corp
449 - healed RC is back on the coal mine - I kill it - Aztec offer peace which I decline
453 - Aztec offer peace which I decline
456 - Aztec has new city
459 - I have arty army now
465 - Aztec mech.gun corp (MgC) appears on water
466 - MgC lands near
467-471 - MgC stays away - moves back and forth and stays away, I can't shoot it
472 - Aztec add new city
472-487 - MgC stays away - moves back and forth and stays away, I can't shoot it
487 - Aztec add new city
487-494 - MgC stays away - moves back and forth and stays away, I can't shoot it
495 - MgC changes move pattern and moves away
496 - Nucl. Sub (NS) appears - pillages my camp
497 - NS moves away
506 - MgC appears, and moves away
512 - Aztec builds Earth Satellite (why?)
516 - Aztec has new city
531 - Aztec has Moon Landing
532 - Aztec Admiral shows up and dances
537 - my uranium mine pillaged from afar
539 - NS comes and attacks my city - I shoot it to 60%
540 - there are 2 NS-s, both attack my city - I almost kill one
damaged NS moves away, other NS too
542 - NS army shows up and attacks my city - I do some damage
543 - Aztec completes Mars Reactor
544 - NS army attacks - me too
545 - NS army attacks, my walls are demolished
546 - red damaged NS army moves away
my city heals but my walls NOT (?)
555 - Aztec Mars Hydrophonics are ready
556 - MechInf army (M-A) appears and a Sniper (S) too
557 - another (!) M-A appears, first M-A is next to my city
I cannot shoot with the city as it has no walls
558 - a Mg-A comes, now there are 3 armies near - I do damage
559 - a MgC appears too, first M-A attacks my city - I do damage
560 - 2 armies and a solo Mg are next to my city, M-A attacks - I do damage
see picture…

561 - I am killed

I think it was great, AI collected forces and then used it quick...

 

[Gort]

Kinda odd that they still let the AI build Science Victory stuff when it's not active.

 

[Siptah]

Earth Satellite and Moon Landing have some use (show map and lots of culture). Mars stuff is pointless.
Thanks for the test!

 

[V. Soma]

Kinda odd that they still let the AI build Science Victory stuff when it's not active.

yes, that's a negative move...

 

[V. Soma]

Is it new that modern walls do not recover...?

 

[Leyrann]

I feel like the main thing with these tests is that the AI simply doesn't see the need to conquer for most of the time. Only when they're pressed for space they'll want to start conquering. After all, it's much easier to settle a city than to conquer one.

And yeah, in the second test it was clearly pursuing a science victory, though that makes no sense.

 

[Jaybe]

And yeah, in the second test it was clearly pursuing a science victory, though that makes no sense.

It's because Firaxis intends to change victory conditions so instead of victory you gain points for each one you achieve.

I would love to at least have this option.

 

[zyx]

Doesn't the AI know its relative strength?
I mean, human players do when looking at the victory condition progress.

 

[whyidie]

AI looking good. I nominate Alexander for future tests!

 

[Felis Renidens]

What's a sniper? A new unit? I don't remember ever seeing it.

 

[V. Soma]

What's a sniper? A new unit? I don't remember ever seeing it.

Um, maybe accidentally Moar units mod was on...? (I can't recall that, but may be)

 

[4N4C0ND4]

Never seen sniper too!
Don't get us false hope please

 

[V. Soma]

Never seen sniper too!
Don't get us false hope please

It must have been the Moar units mod...

 

[agonistes]

In my game last night I had 3 cities in an inverted triangle. Vicky put her troops in the middle of them before attacking.

She continued to respond well to my troop movements, putting her strength at my weak points. Forested hills and rivers won the day for me. And Cyrus' speed boost (I dow'd Poland to get it).

 

[MaximusPlatypus]

It must have been the Moar units mod...

there were a few updates to Moar yesterday.. it's kind if annoying, when Steam updates something it usually enables the mod next time you fire up the game. Have to be careful with saves

 

[nokmirt]

Things are looking up for the AI, but do they use aircraft now?

 

[Gort]

Oh, you should definitely disable all your mods before doing tests like this.

Is it new that modern walls do not recover...?

No. My walls weren't recovering when I did these tests last patch - people say there's a "wall repair" project that should become available if your city doesn't take damage for three turns, but I have literally never seen it.

I assume the project doesn't exist for cities that only have walls due to the Civil Engineering civic (IE: All cities in the test)