MeteorPunch
#WINNING
Beta testers get ignored.
He`s just being human. There`s nothing here to do with age. When something goes wrong, we need someone to blame. In this case, he blames the game devs and the testers. Nothing wrong with that. And i think we should let him do as he does. To deny him this would be like forcing him to be inhuman.
Civ IV was a result of the "tear it down and build something better" design of Civ III.
No it wasn't. If you read Soren Johnsons design philosophy, it was not that at all. His philosophy was to take out what was not fun in Civ III, and add fun elements.
I mean, look at all the civ series to 4, and you see the gradual changes. It's evolutionary.
Now look at the differences between 4 and 5. It's a whole different species.
Too bad evertt wasn't a beta tester, huh? He would have told them what's what!
The buck for the dodgy condition of Civ 5 on release must stop here (first). I dug up this list of the individuals responsible for or involve with the Civ 5 testing from this thread
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=9614579#post9614579
Spoiler :byss
ainwood
AlazkanAssassin
arcan
bernie14
Bob Thomas
bobT
C.Roland
ChrisWithers
claudelu
colonelmustard
dacole
Dale
DanQ
danthrax
Dominae
ekmek
freakmon
GeneralMatt
Gogf
Grey Fox
Gyathaar
Hugin
Impaler[WrG]
jdog5000
jmoskie
jobe
Kael
karadoc
KillerClowns
Locutus
loki1232
Lord_Phan
magnus333
Meredith
Ming
monoha
Nikis-Knight
Nikolai
Nolan
notyoueither
OgreBG
Opera
Peachrocks
Pfeffersack
Primax
rah
robin-uiowa
Scott-DTA
seZereth
SirPartyMan
snafusmith
snoopy369
Solver
TheMeInTeam
totallycres
Valkrionn
Velociryx
vondrack
WarningU2
Wilboman
xienwolf
yin26
Ztaesek
Next time you feel like posting a complaint about civ 5 - be sure to pm it to the people on this list. What the hell were they doing? Why didnt they warn us? Who put DLC sales or other personal kickbacks ahead of the game ? and what are we going to do about it? Will magic flowers, rainbows and the warmth of friendship make Civ 5 better or should there be some social consequences and real meaningful change in the cast and culture?
cmon dude, be real... if you want a non flawed game then there would be almost no games... i know everyone is mad, but it is what it is, complaining about it probably won't change much
That's an absolutely ridiculous argument. It's better to have the Civilization franchise end than to have a game that not everyone might like, but which can still be modded and is enjoyed by many people?
You don't seem to really understand what modding is, it's just adding and changing existing rules and code to an already existing engine. If the engine is broken and bug infested and incomplete, makes modding difficult and frustrating and impossible.
Even though I mod myself, it's not our job to fix the games that are damn near broken after they're released. Also, see my above post. And why would the series have to end? Just delay the release a bit and fix the major problems.
If the option is to release a game that many enjoy, but doesn't live up to Civ4's standards or to risk Firaxis going under and either having no Civ games again or selling the franchise to someone else, what would you do? It's not like someone like Activision would handle the Civ franchise any better.
This is offtopic but picture an alternative world where Firaxis is owned by Blizzard. I bet there would be orcs and witch doctors running around in our civ.
Mmmm, yes. There's nothing nicer than good, comfortable underwear.No matter how hard you beta test a wolverine, it will never turn into a good pair of underwear.
No matter how hard you beta test a wolverine, it will never turn into a good pair of underwear.
An attractive woman sits with her friends in a club. A suave looking fellow approaches...
"Hey! How'zit goin'?" he says.
"Fine" she replies.
"So I noticed you from across the room. Wow, you've got wonderful eyes."
"Thank you."
"And, uh, you're dressed up real nice, too. You look really good in that dress."
"Let's just cut to the chase, shall we? You'll basically say anything that you think I want to hear in order to get my clothes off, right?"
"Uh... well... yeah..."
"Ok, I thought so. You work for 2K Games, don't you?"
"Aww, crap!"
The man scuttles away.
See? It's the very same thing as what has happened to us with Civ5. The marketing types will say anything to get you to buy, whether it's truthful or not. I've been in those clubs, I've dealt with these guys, and I saw this coming. 2K Elizabeth might be a nice lady in real life, and she might even be pretty, but there is no way she was getting under my skirt. Not a chance. I wasn't going to buy until the good folks here at CFC reviewed it honestly. Now the real reviews are starting to pour in, and what a mess this game is.
Wow, the game turned out to be a gift and I still feel burned.