Suggestions and Requests

Nikk7 said:
Hello!

I have some suggestions, maybe not all will agree: 1) give to +1 food and -1 food for slave plantation in caste system and respublic civics. Now it works only for usual plantation
2) Units could move on desert tile if this tile has improvement (like quarry on salt) (like reinforest with improvement)

P.S. Barbs sometimes upload on island with no city
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One thing I noticed in regard to barb spawns is the Somali barb galleys spawning next to the island SE of Somalia, and being completely useless except for randomly harassing passing caravels. Not sure if it's only when Ethiopia controls Mogadishu or not.
 
This may be a result of late-game tech leads, but as I'm going through the post-1700 civs I'm finding that so many independently powerful civs are still vassaling to others voluntarily at surprising rates, even at a vast distance--like a Canada that's settled the West bending to the Netherlands c.1910! But I suppose I also noticed it most prominently in earlier games with the Swahili, who have a tendency to allow whatever civ they like the most vassalize them regardless of distance or religion--I frequently see them become a Mughal, Chinese, French, Mongol vassal. Perhaps the AI should be a little bit more reluctant to vassalize peacefully?
 
Concerning the Stored Data Screen - assuming the Python Error does not result in problems I was unable to detect - consider restoring it sooner rather than later? It's supremely useful for Playtesting, specifically forcing collapses.
 
Should the deadlines for UHV1 (currently 1650) and UHV2 (currently 1700) of Sweden be exchanged?
From a historical perspective, the Swedish Empire's efforts to seek hegemony in the Baltic Sea did not end until the Great Northern War in the 18th century. On the contrary, since the end of the Thirty Years' War in 1648, religious conflicts have no longer played an important role in Europe.
From a gaming perspective, the premature deadlines of UHV1 means that players must constantly launch external wars and rely entirely on forcing defeated countries to convert to Protestantism to complete UHV2. So I think it might be better if we exchange the deadlines for these two UHVs.
 
Hi, the Roman empire could use 2 more leaders, same with greece and maybe Byzantium.
Despite being, well, the Roman empire (and greek and byzantine), they all currently have only 2 leaders, which looks a bit outdated near other Civs that have many more than that.
Many civs have 3-4 leaders like india and poland.
Correct me if im wrong, but some of these leaders look new, and i never saw them before in the mode.
Is it part of the 1.18 update that was released ahead of time?
Congrats, cant wait to play them all !
 
It is kind of funny that Rome, a long lived civ, has two leaders who were not only contemporary but one was basically the other's heir and ideological successor. I'm not sure which additional leader would be best though. We're limited by leaderheads obviously.
 
We're limited by leaderheads but also the fact that the Roman form of government inherently precludes a standout leader (i.e. consul) for the Republican period. Scipio Africanus would probably be the best pick for that, and you could consider Constantine (exists but quite similar to Augustus) or Diocletian (who I don't think has an explicit LH) for the late period.
 
Leoreth said:
We're limited by leaderheads but also the fact that the Roman form of government inherently precludes a standout leader (i.e. consul) for the Republican period. Scipio Africanus would probably be the best pick for that, and you could consider Constantine (exists but quite similar to Augustus) or Diocletian (who I don't think has an explicit LH) for the late period.
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These are all very good choices.
In my opinion, if more emperors are added from the golden age period and the pax romana, then i would suggest Marcus Aurelius and Trajan, both being considered the best roman emperors, trajan even nominated in the senate as "Optimus Princeps" (the best Roman emperor).
 
Leoreth said:
We're limited by leaderheads but also the fact that the Roman form of government inherently precludes a standout leader (i.e. consul) for the Republican period. Scipio Africanus would probably be the best pick for that, and you could consider Constantine (exists but quite similar to Augustus) or Diocletian (who I don't think has an explicit LH) for the late period.
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I would humbly suggest Marcus Furius Camillus, he was rewarded the prestigious title of pater patriae (father of the country). Another choice could be Aurelian who was bestowed the title of restitutor orbis (restorer of the world) by the senate
 
Leoreth said:
We're limited by leaderheads but also the fact that the Roman form of government inherently precludes a standout leader (i.e. consul) for the Republican period. Scipio Africanus would probably be the best pick for that, and you could consider Constantine (exists but quite similar to Augustus) or Diocletian (who I don't think has an explicit LH) for the late period.
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A while ago, I stumbled upon this old thread: https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/new-leaderhead-database.431290/

It includes a lot of old Leaderhead mods for CIV 4. The thread is very old, and most of the leaders don't look quite good anymore, but for the Romans, there are two that I really liked. I do agree that the Constantine Leaderhead has a very Augustus feel to it, with a bit of Alexander the Great as well, but he would be the best to represent the late Roman Imperial era and the adoption of Christianity

Marcus Aurelius

[LH] Marcus Aurelius

Modular leaderhead requested by, well no one, I did it because I wanted it and it will help out Civ Gold :D Discussion here If you want him and my Constantine for Rome you will need to edit the Rome entry of your Civ4CivilizationInfos.xml...
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Constantine The Great

[LH] Constantine the Great

Version 2 Its now modular and has C.Roland's awesome red-gold armor. version 1 Requested by RulerOfDaPeople So I give him some credit ;) Discuss in this thread Your CIV4ArtDefines_Leaderhead.xml should look like this: Sample...
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Constantine.jpg
 
Concerning the India UHV #3, to control 20% of the world population by 1200AD:
Currently it seems that the goal does not count vassals. I think it should, since basically it is indirectly controlled, so a contribution of half their pop seems reasonable. Also this would be consistent with the domination count which includes half of the vassals pop/land.

Concerning gameplay I do not think this will have a big impact. Barring someone going far out to conquer, the only likely vassal are the dravidians.
 
I noticed that many of the Mongolia civilization's great person in the game doesn't seem reasonable (most of whom are just rulers of the Mongol Khanate and have not shown talent in respective fields).
So I tried to revise the list of great persons and added some (most of whom come from the Yuan Dynasty and Ilkhanate. If anyone could provide great person from the Chagatai and Golden Horde or other eras, I would be very grateful!).
Here is the list(I added Wikipedia link for the newly added GP)

Great Prophet
Qiu Chuji(12th)(also Chinese GP)
Berke(13th)
Özbeg(13th)
Al-Allama al-Hilli(13th)
Aḍud al-Din al-Ījī(13th)
Drogön Chogyal Phagpa(13th)
Renaissance:
Zanabazar(17th)
Zaya Pandita(17th)
Global:
Bogd Khan(20th)

Great Artist
Huang Gongwang(13th)(also Chinese GP)
Zhao Mengfu(13th)
Guan Daosheng(female)(13th)
Guan Hanqing(13th)
Abu Sulayman Banakati(13th)
Saadi Shirazi(13th)
Tugh Temur(14th)
Industrial:
Dulduityn Danzanravjaa(19th)
Global:
Marzan Sharav(20th)
Byambyn Rinchen(20th)
Siqin Gaowa(female)(20th)

Great Scientist
Isa Khelmerchi(13th)
Nasir al-Din al-Tusi(13th)(also Persian GP)
Mu'ayyad al-Din al-Urdi(13th)
Jamal ad-Din Bukhari(13th)
Guo Shoujing(13th)
 Zhu Shijie(13th)(also Chinese GP)
Renaissance:
Minggatu(17th)
Global:
Jamsrangiin Tseveen(20th)

Great Merchant
Mahmud Yalavach(13th)
Mengu Timur(13th)
Gaykhatu(13th)
Qawsun(13th)
Bolad(13th)
Pu Shougeng(13th)
Sa'ad al-Dawla(13th)
Kebek(13th)
Wang Dayuan(14th)
Renaissance:
Altan(16th)

Great Engineer
Guillaume Boucher(13th)
Liu Bingzhong(13th)
Zhang Wenqian(13th)
Araniko(13th)
Ismail(13th)
 Wang Zhen(14th)(also Chinese GP)
Toqto’a(14th)
Toghon Temür(14th)
Global:
Li Siguang(20th)

Great Stateman
Sorghaghtani Beki(female)(13th)
Batu Khan(13th)
Urtu Saqaltu(13th)
Orghana(female)(13th)
Ghazan Khan(13th)
Temur Khan(13th)
Toqto’a(14th)
Dayan Khan(15th)
Industrial:
Balingiin Tserendorj(19th)
Global:
Khorloogiin Choibalsan(20th)
Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj(20th)

Great General
Toghril(12th)
Subutai(13th)
Ögedei(13th)
Chagatai(13th)
Tolui(13th)
Möngke(13th)
Hulagu(13th)
Bayan(13th)
Khutulun(female)(13th)
Köke Temür(14th)
Tokhtamysh(14th)
Esen Taishi(15th)
Mandukhai(female)(15th)
Renaissance:
Anu Qatun(female)(17th)
Global:
Damdin Sükhbaatar(20th)
 
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Thank you! That is a great resource.
 
Apple111111 said:
On the topic of great people, could we maybe remove Rajendra Chola as an Indian Great General. It feels weird to fight Rajendra Chola with Rajendra Chola after all…
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I'm planning on suggesting an update to Great People that splits the Indians and Dravidians eventually, leaderheads will of course be removed where necessary. See this spreadsheet for the community-made resource
 
Steb said:
I'm planning on suggesting an update to Great People that splits the Indians and Dravidians eventually, leaderheads will of course be removed where necessary. See this spreadsheet for the community-made resource
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interesting material, could you please share the spreadsheet with Italy and Rome? I would like to contribute
 
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