Sunday's PAX talk (with summary of the info)

[MARDUK80]

Wow, a lot of excellent additions! I was away from computer for whole eastertime, so lots of new info to indulge myself on.

Haile Selassie is the leader of Ethiopia

Didn't see this one coming! I expected either Zara Yaqob or Menelik II for Ethiopia, but Haile Selassie as a modern leader is a pleasant surprise.

I have to say Attila hardly looks the same leader in his leader screen than in the box art. I think he looks much better in-game - just the opposite with Boudica. Really good looking on the concept art but her leaderscreen doesn't do justice for her, imho.

 

[snipperrabbit!!]

here's a pic for the new resource citrus :

and the city religion panel :

Holy city for // Sidism
// 2 followers (+ 25 Pressure)
\ 2 followers

5 citizens left without religion.

 

[Louis XXIV]

I rewatched the video. I'm almost certain that green is a new civ (there are two southern dots, one's a city-state, the other is a civ). The only civ it could be is India, but the city dot would be a different color.

 

[HammerandSickle]

I think it's Arabia. The Bottom dot is the city and upper dot is a tile.

 

[snipperrabbit!!]

It's just a light green CS !

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I do think it's a new Civ but the black dot ont he island next to it is the only thing that proves it wrong..

 

[Louis XXIV]

I suppose it's possible the green is the city dot, but it doesn't look that way to me. If it is, you're right it's not the last civ. However, if it isn't, it has to be a new civ.

 

[MARDUK80]

I suppose it's possible the green is the city dot, but it doesn't look that way to me. If it is, you're right it's not the last civ. However, if it isn't, it has to be a new civ.

From all the possible candidates I'd personally give Kongo (Red/Green) or Majapahit (Yellow/Green) a green Civ color. Would seem to fit for them... Perhaps the one you spotted is just Arabia...

 

[Louis XXIV]

Arabia is the opposite, dark green with lime green dots. I considered Arabia and still consider them a possibility, but if lime green is the dot, it's just as likely to be a city-state.

I could see Majapahit. But it really could be anything.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I've noticed Attila the Hun had European War Music in the third part of the demo despite having Asian City Art Style.


Link to video.

 

[nokmirt]

Interesting that the Zulu came out in Civ 4 Warlords with Carthage and the Celts, but Ethiopia did not come out until BTS. Could it be the Holy Roman Empire it is based on the "Into the Renaissance" scenario. We are missing Khmer, Portugal, Sumer, Zulu, and the Mali for traditional civs they have used before.

It could be the Holy Roman Empire. How about Croatia? That would be something different and they had a role to play during that time period. Or it could be called Dalmatia. Now Dalmatia as we know has a centralized location to Italy, Austria, and the Ottoman Empire, but gains influence from all three.

"Dalmatia was on the periphery of several influences, just as far from Italy as from the Ottomans in Bosnia and Austrians in the north, so it benefited from all of these. In such circumstances Dalmatian religious and public architecture flourished, with clear influences from the Italian renaissance. Three works from that period are of European importance, and would contribute to further development of the Renaissance: the Cathedral of St James in Šibenik, the Chapel of Blessed John in Trogir, and Sorkočević’s villa in Dubrovnik."

Is Ragusa a city state still??? And is Venice???

"In Croatian, the city is known as Dubrovnik; in Italian as Ragusa; and in Latin as Ragusium. Its historical name in Greek is Raugia (Ραυγι&#945 or Ragousa (Ραγουσ&#945.

The current Croatian name was officially adopted in 1918 after the fall of Austria–Hungary, but was in use from the Middle Ages. It is also referred to as Dubrovnik in the first official document of the treaty with the Ban of Bosnia Ban Kulin."

 

[Louis XXIV]

The Holy Roman Empire is more than adequately represented by Germany and Austria. The Renaissance HRE is Austria.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I doubt the last civ is the HRE, if it is, they will need a different unit than the Landsknecht which has been commandeered by the Germans.

 

[nokmirt]

The Holy Roman Empire is more than adequately represented by Germany and Austria. The Renaissance HRE is Austria.

Ok, but are there any civs that would be needed to fill any gaps in Beach's scenario? Is any other civ missing that is required to bring it all together? If not it is Sumer, Zulu, Khmer, Mali, or other traditional civ they have used before. Or else it something new, which makes sense, because of all this secrecy.

 

[Louis XXIV]

To fill the gap? That depends if it focuses on the Crusades or the 30 Years War. For the 30 Years War, Sweden was an extremely important civ but is not yet in. For the Crusades, the Almoravids are the most logical, but they are also not going to be included. There's also a possibility of Venice if they haven't been spotted as a city-state.

 

[nokmirt]

To fill the gap? That depends if it focuses on the Crusades or the 30 Years War. For the 30 Years War, Sweden was an extremely important civ but is not yet in. For the Crusades, the Almoravids are the most logical, but they are also not going to be included. There's also a possibility of Venice if they haven't been spotted as a city-state.

If its in to the renaissance we are going, my guess is that we are in the high middle ages at the outset. Sweden or Venice sounds like two distinct possibilities. This also means that the Almoravids are about to be ousted out of Spain. You their capital is a city state already right? Marrakesh, which is in central Morocco. Marrakesh is a city state? It was a place pilgrims traveled too, so it could be a religious CS.

 

[Polynesian]

I'm extremely doubtful of it being the HRE. I think they learned their lesson last time. I hope it's something new, as the Huns are the only new civilization in G&K (with Austria technically being in Civ III. Hopefully the Majapahit!

Ok, but are there any civs that would be needed to fill any gaps in Beach's scenario? Is any other civ missing that is required to bring it all together? If not it is Sumer, Zulu, Khmer, Mali, or other traditional civ they have used before. Or else it something new, which makes sense, because of all this secrecy.

I think it's a bit rich, calling these two 'traditional civs' after only being in one game, the former of which was only in the last expansion pack of Civilization IV.

 

[nokmirt]

I'm extremely doubtful of it being the HRE. I think they learned their lesson last time. I hope it's something new, as the Huns are the only new civilization in G&K (with Austria technically being in Civ III. Hopefully the Majapahit!



I think it's a bit rich, calling these two 'traditional civs' after only being in one game, the former of which was only in the last expansion pack of Civilization IV.

Well what I meant was used before. Traditional is the wrong word sorry.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

You guys gotta remember that some of the civs might be represnted by old leaderheads. For example the Polynesian re-used Gandhi, Hiawatha and Montezuma, whilst the Ancient Wonders also re-used two (Hitites and Sumer with Ottomans and Arabia)

 

[GenjiKhan]

Ok, but are there any civs that would be needed to fill any gaps in Beach's scenario? Is any other civ missing that is required to bring it all together? If not it is Sumer, Zulu, Khmer, Mali, or other traditional civ they have used before. Or else it something new, which makes sense, because of all this secrecy.

Well,from the 8 already revealed Civs,only 2 of them have their first time as a playable civilization(Austria and Huns) . For that reason,I suspect the 9th civ won't be Zulu or any other that was playable in other Civilizations .