Superheroes!

Yeah. On the one hand, the writers will be able to write a series finale, but otoh, season 4 will be some kind of "soft reboot." Unless they plan to do a whole season with the Kent family hiking in the wilderness, they'll have to introduce a whole new cast of supporting characters, who we'll barely get to know before the show ends.
 
Wait, wait, wait. You don't think The Winter Soldier is one of the best MCU movies? I thought I knew you, man...

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Certainly not one of the worst, but I wouldn't call it one of the best, as in top 5 or top 10. When I think about it... I don't even remember as much about Winter Soldier as I do so many of the other MCU movies. I guess I haven't watched it as many times.

Off the top of my head, I can think of at least 10 MCU movies that I'd rate ahead of Winter Soldier. In no particular order, I'd put Black Panther, Ragnarok, Guardians 1 & 2, Avengers, Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame, Dr. Strange and Iron Man, all ahead of Winter Soldier, and there's probably a few others I could add. So I guess I would put it somewhere kind of in the middle... way better than stuff like Eternals or Love and Thunder, but not up there with Iron Man.

FWIW, (which is obviously big grain-of-salt value) Winter Soldiers Rotten Tomatoes score places it at #12 in the MCU...out of 32 MCU films... so right about at the top of the middle, better than most, shy of top 10, but far above the bottom 10.
 
Guess it's time to update the ol' rankings. *rolls up sleeves*
  1. Thor: Ragnarok (2017) - Just watched this again the other day.
  2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
  3. Iron Man (2008)
  4. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) - Rewatched this one in April.
  5. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) - I think this might be on-deck for my next MCU rewatch.
  6. Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
  7. Avengers: Endgame (2019) - I keep flip-flopping in whether I like Endgame over Infinity War or vice-versa. They're basically one 5½-hour movie, though, so I tend to keep them together.
  8. Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
  9. Captain America: Civil War (2016)
  10. Black Panther (2018)
  11. Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)
  12. The Avengers (2012)
  13. Ant-Man (2015)
  14. Iron Man 3 (2013)
  15. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021)
  16. Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)
  17. Black Widow (2021)
  18. Ant-Man and The Wasp (2018)
  19. Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019)
  20. Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
  21. Thor (2011)
  22. Guardians of the Galaxy, vol. 2 (2017)
  23. Iron Man 2 (2010) - I rewatched this one in March, and I liked it more than I remembered liking it the first time. I can't quite justify ranking it higher than this, but it goes to show that even the 22nd-best MCU movie is still not bad. I don't know how many franchises can or will ever be able to claim that.
  24. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022)
  25. Doctor Strange (2016)
  26. Captain Marvel (2019) - I think this is where I actually start to rate these movies as 'not good.' Even the two Doctor Strange movies were okay.
  27. Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania (2023)
  28. Thor: Love & Thunder (2022) - Christian Bale is the only reason this one isn't dead last. Well, okay, it might be ahead of Eternals even if Bale hadn't been good.
  29. Thor: The Dark World (2013)
  30. Eternals (2021) - I get the feeling even the MCU braintrust wants to forget this movie happened.
I could continue to fiddle here and there, and I probably will, but I think that's basically where I'm at.

Unranked: The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Haven't seen yet: Guardians of the Galaxy, vol. 3 (2023)
 
Avengers
Iron Man
Endgame
Infinity War
Civil War
Ant Man
Captain America
Guardians
Ragnarok
Winter Soldier

It's exactly at #10 for me
 
Stan 'Marvel' Lee -


Stan Lee review: "Hard not to be moved by this fan-friendly documentary"​

As a kid, Stanley Lieber used to watch his unemployed dad desperately scanning newspaper ads for a job. Duly, Stanley decided early on that he wanted “a steady job” for life, and, perhaps, gained an early understanding of life struggles.

As a 17-year-old, Stan banked a job and a life in comics, also making sure that his work spoke to people. Slickly assembled using archive footage (claymation fills any gaps) and Lee’s recorded voiceover by director David Gelb, this Disney+ doc is a hurried, surface-level celebration more than a complex study of Stan’s story. But it’s a winning one, which unpicks the through lines of Lee’s thinking with spider-nimble clarity.

Gelb ushers us briskly from New York 1922 to Timely Comics in 1939, where Stan became - effectively - his own boss. Post-war and happily married, Lee continued writing comics and hit gold with some killer ideas: a sorrowful monster, a teen hero, a superhero team…

The rest is well-told history, but Gelb shows clearly how Lee created heroes/monsters as complex characters, writing what he wanted to read with a guiding sense of empathy. Lee emerges as a moral entertainer and a receptive prism of late-20th-century American culture, especially circa the Vietnam and civil-rights eras.

Subsequent years and hidden depths are sketchily detailed, though Lee’s conflicts with Steve Ditko aren’t ignored. But as we watch Lee still encouraging ‘true believers’ well into his old age, it’s hard not to be moved: that kid in ’20s New York would’ve loved the guy.


Stan Lee is on Disney+ on June 16
 
Just caught up with SHAZAM Fury of the Gods. Was reasonably OK. Not a standout.



As to MCU listings, I think I probably liked Thor Dark World better than most people do.
 
As to MCU listings, I think I probably liked Thor Dark World better than most people do.
That's one that I haven't seen since it came out. I do sometimes go back and revisit things I didn't love the first time, as I did with Iron Man 2 a few months ago.
 
After minutes upon minutes of thought, here's my rankings. Haven't seen GotGv3 yet.

1 - Avengers: Infinity War
2 - Captain America: Civil War
3 - Avengers
4 - Avengers: Endgame
5 - Captain America: The Winter Soldier
6 - Spider-Man: No Way Home
7 - Guardians of the Galaxy
8 - Iron Man
9 - Thor: Ragnarok
10 - Black Panther
11 - Avengers: Age of Ultron
12 - Ant-Man
13 - Ant-Man and the Wasp
14 - Captain America: The First Avenger
15 - Captain Marvel
16 - Iron Man 2
17 - Black Widow (artificially inflated ranking just for Yelena)
18 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
19 - Spider-Man: Far From Home
20 - Spider-Man: Homecoming
21 - Doctor Strange
22 - Thor
23 - Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
24 - Thor: The Dark World
25 - Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
26 - Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
27 - Iron Man 3
28 - The Incredible Hulk
29 - Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
30 - Thor: Love and Thunder
31 - Eternals

Phase IV was... not good.
 
Regarding Captain Marvel, I know I'm a bit of an outlier on that movie. :lol: It's not really for the character of Captain Marvel herself, who's kind of bland & really has no character arc to speak of (to quote Poison Ivy from the Harley Quinn animated show: "I hate it when the power was inside me all along!"). Although they did kind of get me with that montage of her getting knocked down & standing back up throughout her life.

It's everything else that I enjoy - Fury, Coulson, the Skrulls, particularly Talos, & the '90's setting (Radio Shack, Blockbuster, the slow computers, etc.). For some reason all that makes me enjoy this movie despite not particularly liking the title character. It's one of those movies where if I see it's randomly on network TV on a Saturday afternoon, I'll wind up re-watching it & enjoying it.

EDIT: Oddly enough, it's on FX channel right now. I forgot to mention the soundtrack, the Flerken, & the Stan Lee tribute (plus, him reading the Mallrats script cameo!)
 
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Looks bloody and raw for a Marvel flick.

Taylor-Johnson signed on to portray Kraven in multiple films.

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“Kraven the Hunter is the visceral story about how and why one of Marvel’s most iconic villains came to be. Set before his notorious vendetta with Spider-Man, Aaron Taylor-Johnson stars as the titular character in the R-rated film.”

Ariana DeBose will play Calypso in the upcoming Kraven the Hunter movie.


Christopher Abbott (Possessor) is playing The Foreigner, with Levi Miller (Better Watch Out) also on board. Alessandro Nivola (The Many Saints of Newark) will play another villain, but character details are under wraps. Russell Crowe and Fred Hechinger also star.


J.C. Chandor (A Most Violent Year) is directing Kraven the Hunter.


The screenplay was written by Art Marcum & Matt Holloway and Richard Wenk.


Poster based on - AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #17 HUNTED PT 1


 
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My list, without putting too much thought into it. It was pretty easy to group the movies into three tiers with the top 10 being my favs and essentially interchangeable, the next 10 being ones I either thought were either highly enjoyable or essential to my enjoyment of the MCU overall, or both and the last 11 being skip-able, movies that I may have liked to some degree but I wouldn’t have missed out on much if hadn’t seen them. I still haven't seen Guardians 3 so I can't rank it yet. Also, there's a few movies that don't technically count as MCU like Venom, the other Spiderman movies, Morbius, Spiderverse, etc that I'm leaving out. If I was including Spiderverse, I'd rate it quite high on this list, whereas I'm generally much colder on the Spiderman movies than most. I'll repeat that it wasn't hard to rank the films but I'm open to discussion/persuasion on the rankings. ;) I recognize that my esteem of Iron Man 2 is not generally shared. Funny, it seems like we all can at least agree that Eternals, and Love & Thunder are in the bottom 5.
  1. Black Panther
  2. Ragnarok
  3. Infinity War
  4. Civil War
  5. The Avengers
  6. Endgame
  7. Iron Man
  8. Guardians of the Galaxy
  9. Doctor Strange
  10. Captain America
  11. Wakanda Forever
  12. Guardians Vol. 2
  13. Iron Man 2
  14. Ant-Man and the Wasp
  15. No Way Home
  16. Winter Soldier
  17. Age of Ultron
  18. Thor
  19. Homecoming
  20. Multiverse of Madness
  21. Ant-Man
  22. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
  23. Far From Home
  24. Captain Marvel
  25. Quantumania
  26. Iron Man 3
  27. Black Widow
  28. The Dark World
  29. The Incredible Hulk
  30. Eternals
  31. Love and Thunder
 
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Avengers: Endgame (2019) - I keep flip-flopping in whether I like Endgame over Infinity War or vice-versa. They're basically one 5½-hour movie, though, so I tend to keep them together.
A couple things for me that help distinguish the two in my mind... Endgame has the gigantic epic battle at the end of course, but it starts off really slow, with alot of pity-partying and characters feeling sorry for themselves. It also reuses/reimagines a lot of scenes we already saw, sometimes from different angles/perspectives, but its is essentially repeat material. Infinity War has more of a steady stream of action throughout with less of the talking, setup and plot building you get in Endgame... which is ironic, since Infinity War is actually the first part, where you would expect more setup.
 
I think this is what my list looks like, with indecisive shuffling of the top 8 at any given moment:

1. Thor: Ragnarok
2. Captain America
3. Captain America: Civil War
4. Spider-Man: No Way Home
5. Captain America: Winter Soldier
6. Infinity War
7. Spider-Man: Far From Home
8. Spider-Man: Homecoming
9. Endgame
10. Captain Marvel
11. The Avengers
12. Age of Ultron
13. The Incredible Hulk
14. Thor
15. Iron Man
16. Black Panther
17. Guardians of the Galaxy
18. Guardians Vol. 2
19. Thor: Love and Thunder
20. Iron Man 3
21. Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness
22. Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
23. Black Widow
24. Doctor Strange
25. Ant-Man
26. Ant-Man Quantumania
27. Ant-Man and the Wasp
28. Iron Man 2
29. Thor 2: The Dark World
30. Eternals

Haven’t seen: Wakanda Forever
 
MCU Rankings, Vol. II
  1. Daredevil s.1
  2. Jessica Jones s.1
  3. Daredevil s.2
  4. Loki s.1
  5. WandaVision
  6. Daredevil s.3
  7. Agent Carter s.1
  8. Luke Cage s.1
  9. Jessica Jones s.3
  10. Runaways s.1
  11. Hawkeye
  12. Ms. Marvel
  13. The Punisher s.1
  14. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law
  15. The Falcon & The Winter Soldier
  16. Cloak & Dagger s.1
  17. Jessica Jones s.2
  18. Agent Carter s.2
  19. The Punisher s.2
  20. The Defenders
  21. Luke Cage s.2
  22. Iron Fist s.2
  23. Moon Knight
  24. Iron Fist s.1
 
A couple things for me that help distinguish the two in my mind... Endgame has the gigantic epic battle at the end of course, but it starts off really slow, with alot of pity-partying and characters feeling sorry for themselves. It also reuses/reimagines a lot of scenes we already saw, sometimes from different angles/perspectives, but its is essentially repeat material. Infinity War has more of a steady stream of action throughout with less of the talking, setup and plot building you get in Endgame... which is ironic, since Infinity War is actually the first part, where you would expect more setup.
What I really like about Infinity War is that it's basically the classic "Hero's Journey" story, only you don't realize 'til the end that it's Thanos's Journey. He overcomes obstacles, grows as a character (sheds his Warrior/General persona, becomes more philosophical), sacrifices ("What did it cost?"), gains new abilities, & uses the new abilities to help overcome the next threat. Until he ultimately accomplishes his goal.

I think most people with little knowledge of the comics storyline probably expected it to be Thor's Hero's Journey & expected him to pull out a win at the end. Thor was on a very similar story arc to Thanos, but as the Hero he's generally expected him to pull out a win just at the final! desperate! moment!

So that gut punch when Thanos succeeds & the ramifications sink in & the various heroes start getting dusted... I imagine non-comics readers felt it even more than I did. I kinda knew where the story was headed, although I didn't know exactly who exactly would get dusted after The Snap (they had to modify the comics story based on what characters were available to them - for example, Warlock & Silver Surfer played a big part in the comics). That whole "not him!" "not her!" "how will they recover without that person!?" [repeat several times] was *such* a deep emotional beat. It still resonates with me today when I watch it. That's why I rank it #1 in my list.
 
MCU Rankings, Vol. II
  1. Daredevil s.1
  2. Jessica Jones s.1
  3. ...etc.
Ooh - this one is much tougher. I'll rank the ones I liked the most / there's a decent chance I'd re-watch them at some point / will never re-watch / didn't see...

Liked/Could see re-watching at some point:
Jessica Jones s.1
Daredevil s.1
Hawkeye (at least from the end of Episode 4 on - Yelena!)
Agent Carter s.1
The Punisher s.1
Daredevil s.3

Liked, but probably won't ever re-watch:
Luke Cage s.1 [show cratered after they killed off the main Bad Guy who was awesome]
The Defenders [liked seeing Jessica/Cage/Daredevil, even Iron Fist was OK in this one, but boring story]
Cloak & Dagger s.1 [fun show, but overall inconsequential; I'd have to be super-bored to re-watch]
Daredevil s.2 [only if I re-watch s1 first & intend to watch s.3, might still skip it]
WandaVision [the end soured me on this one - the whole "they have no idea what you've sacrificed" thing - Wanda enslaved/tortured a whole town! they should have acknowledged that, not pardoned her]
Loki s.1 [didn't like the "I watched a movie, now I'm redeemed" thing even though he just killed Coulson/thousands of people minutes before; also the Multiverse sucks]

No Chance I'll ever Rewatch:
The Punisher s.2
Moon Knight
Jessica Jones s.3
Jessica Jones s.2
The Falcon & The Winter Soldier
Luke Cage s.2
Agent Carter s.2
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law
Iron Fist s.2
Iron Fist s.1

Never Watched, no desire to:
Runaways s.1
Ms. Marvel

EDIT: added the above [brackets] to section 2
 
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I forgot to mention Agents of SHIELD (2013), a show I liked well enough to watch most of it. There were moments that I liked a lot, and some others I didn't. The problem is that with 7 seasons and 136 episodes, I can't remember the seasons with enough clarity to rank them. Even with Daredevil and Jessica Jones and their 3 seasons and 39 episodes, I had to quickly consult Wikipedia to make sure I wasn't misremembering any characters or storylines in the wrong seasons. It would take me half a day to jog my memory wrt AoS. :lol: But I wouldn't want anyone to think that the show is entirely skippable, just because I couldn't be bothered doing the work to include it in my list. There were seasons of the show I'd probably rank in the Top 10 here, maybe even the Top 5.

There was a moment when the rumor-mill had some of these characters returning in Secret Invasion, and I was not at all averse to the idea. Gabriel Luna's Robbie Reyes/Ghost Rider and Adrianne Palicki's Bobbi Morse/Mockingbird appeared in the series, and were both good renditions of those characters. Both of them were on the verge of getting their own spinoff series, but seeing how overburdened the MCU has become, maybe it's just as well they didn't go forward. But if you're a fan of either actor or either character, it might be worth your time to look up which seasons they appeared in. Like a lot of U.S. network series, each season is fairly well self-contained. Palicki first appears in season 2, for example, and you wouldn't need to watch season 1 first, if you didn't want to. Luna played Ghost Rider in 9 episodes - that's almost a Ghost Rider miniseries, except of course that not every one of those episodes focuses on him. I liked Luna's version a lot more than Nicolas Cage's, and Robbie Reyes drove a '69 Dodge Charger, which I thought was cooler than Johnny Blaze's motorcycle.
 
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