I am wondering if its not to late to change my vote and my opinion about the 5CC. I have just started playing a regular game (Non-modded) under the 5CC variant. To tell you the truth, I actualy enjoyed only controling 5 cities and conquring other civs. I guess after trying that variant, it pretty much converted me to like this game. I was dead set against the 5CC in the past, mainly because I have not tried it myself (Yes Ginger Ale, It took a while for your advice to "just try it" to click in ) I just hope the supporters of the 5CC would accept a former anti-5CC into their ranks.