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re: The earlier mentions of laptops, the Dell Inspiron "Gaming" laptop is on sale @ B&H for a pretty good price (729, and perhaps no tax for many?):

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod..._6700hq_16gb_1tb_gtx960m_windows_10_15_6.html

You don't generally get a new laptop with the 4GB 960 for this low. I have the Amazon version of this (which I like better because it ships with a 256GB SSD and the drive slot empty instead) and it's great for Civ V at least (and even FP RPGs like fallout).
 
I don't have any, just one integrated in CPU.

If you have Win 10 you may consider buying AMD card like RX 470 4GB. The game is supposed to have DX12 features: asynchronous compute and explicit multi-adapter (you can combine GPUs so you could still use your integrated GPU for some more game performance). Not sure if these will be implemented from the start though.
 
I really want to have good gaming experience right from the start, I'll be able to play 24/7 first week so I want to enjoy it. I am ready to invest as much as needed, I just don't want to waste money.

GTX 970.

-One of the most common graphic cards out there, which means games are tested and optimized for it.
-One of the best in price/performance too.
-Can be found through Ebay or second hand retailer at a great prize.
 
I will raise you a Nvidia Gtx 1060 :) Much better card for not much higher price

2nd Hand...well you got me there , but that sounds dangerous to me ;)
GTX1060 is a new archictecture, far and away better than the previous one.
GTX 1060 is boss(unless you want spend the big bucks on GTX 1080 :))
 
I will raise you a Nvidia Gtx 1060 :) Much better card for not much higher price

2nd Hand...well you got me there , but that sounds dangerous to me ;)
GTX1060 is a new archictecture, far and away better than the previous one.
GTX 1060 is boss(unless you want spend the big bucks on GTX 1080 :))

GTX1060 is a much better option if you are a gamer, and expect to try out any 2017 AAA games, no debate there. Great card for the price indeed.

GTX970 should be able to run CIV VI at Ultra everything, at least for standard-ish games. Not sure about cheaper cards, that is why I recommend it, since Sansa_Stark doesn't want to make any compromises but neither spend one € more than it is required.
 
It is a minor issue. I`ll make it work probably somehow.
Most important thing is turn times ...
With a 6 year old cpu. Really nice, with civ 6 i might not upgrade for the next 3 years :)


I'm in the same situation. Six year old Dell XPS machine that just squeaks into the minimum GPU and 4G RAM requirements. But Cpu is six-way AMD, so good power there. I think if I just set the video to lower settings it will run just fine. It's not like the fancy graphics enhance the strategy aspects of the game. I would upgrade to 8 GB RAM before upgrading the graphics card



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So my GPU is at 94% of recommended (GTX-670) but my CPU (AMD FX-4100) is only at 54% of recommended on tier 5 of Tom's guide. Sticking with Socket AM3+ and 95W I could get an FX-8320E for 92% or an FX-8370E for 99%, both of which in tier 4.

The question is would it be worth $167 or $200 to do so (plus the hassle of messing with my difficult to install CPU cooler)? I have always played Small maps, not enjoying the bigger sizes, would I even notice the difference?

After doing some research, these two tier 4 CPUs are not even compatible with my revision 1 ASUS Sabertooth 990FX.

What is compatible however is the FX-8300 which is not only Tier 2, it's only $120!
 
After doing some research, these two tier 4 CPUs are not even compatible with my revision 1 ASUS Sabertooth 990FX.

What is compatible however is the FX-8300 which is not only Tier 2, it's only $120!

If you happen to live by a Micro Center, check out their prices on the FX-8320 - they occasionally have it for less than that, and it's faster. The FX-8000 series is a bit old by now, but it is quite reasonably priced, and since you already have a compatible motheboard, it's probably the way to go if you don't want to spend a whole lot.

The FX-8320E is a lower-power-consumption variant of the same series. Honestly it makes no sense why Tom's Hardware lists the FX-8300 as "Tier 2" but the FX-8320E as "Tier 4". The 8320E runs at 3.5 GHz, and the 8300 runs at 3.6 GHz, and they're otherwise essentially the same. A 3% difference does not account for two tiers. My guess is they placed the FX-8300 in Tier 2 when it was new in late 2012, and placed the FX-8320E in Tier 4 when it was new in late 2014 against better competition, and never updated the FX-8300. For all intents and purposes, both they and the 3.6 GHz FX-8370 will be equal in performance.

Even if you consider that both may be "Tier 4" now, however, they still make sense in your case because you have a compatible motherboard. They'd be a tough recommendation right now otherwise, but that compatibility saves both money and time when upgrading.
 
GTX1060 is a much better option if you are a gamer, and expect to try out any 2017 AAA games, no debate there. Great card for the price indeed.

GTX970 should be able to run CIV VI at Ultra everything, at least for standard-ish games. Not sure about cheaper cards, that is why I recommend it, since Sansa_Stark doesn't want to make any compromises but neither spend one € more than it is required.
I use a GTX 970 from MSI for my LP. I have all the graphics on maximum and the game runs smooth.
CPU for me is the core i7 6700K though, so that counts for a bit as well. But graphics wise, you're fine with a GTX 970.

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If you happen to live by a Micro Center, check out their prices on the FX-8320 - they occasionally have it for less than that, and it's faster. The FX-8000 series is a bit old by now, but it is quite reasonably priced, and since you already have a compatible motheboard, it's probably the way to go if you don't want to spend a whole lot.

The FX-8320E is a lower-power-consumption variant of the same series. Honestly it makes no sense why Tom's Hardware lists the FX-8300 as "Tier 2" but the FX-8320E as "Tier 4". The 8320E runs at 3.5 GHz, and the 8300 runs at 3.6 GHz, and they're otherwise essentially the same. A 3% difference does not account for two tiers. My guess is they placed the FX-8300 in Tier 2 when it was new in late 2012, and placed the FX-8320E in Tier 4 when it was new in late 2014 against better competition, and never updated the FX-8300. For all intents and purposes, both they and the 3.6 GHz FX-8370 will be equal in performance.

Even if you consider that both may be "Tier 4" now, however, they still make sense in your case because you have a compatible motherboard. They'd be a tough recommendation right now otherwise, but that compatibility saves both money and time when upgrading.

I went with the 8300 because it was half the price, rated higher by Tom's and the other site linked earlier in this thread, not to mention the most important part was Tom's said it would work fine (and did) in my Rev 1 Sabertooth 990-FX. Both CPU and GPU are now at 94% of recommended so hopefully I can now play at max settings.

The fact that all the newer 8300 series CPUs needed Bios updates makes me think it's not just a clock rate comparison and that something they did for power saving or something else hurt the performance. I kind of doubt Tom's would leave it in Tier 2 by mistake.
 
How well do you think a gtx 660 will run civ 6?

That's actually what FilthyRobot is using in his videos, if I'm remembering correctly. (I saw a brief glimpse of the graphics settings screen as he was going through the settings.) It's hard to tell how much of the choppiness of his leader animations is due to the overhead of the streaming software, but otherwise it seems to run very well.
 
That's actually what FilthyRobot is using in his videos, if I'm remembering correctly. (I saw a brief glimpse of the graphics settings screen as he was going through the settings.) It's hard to tell how much of the choppiness of his leader animations is due to the overhead of the streaming software, but otherwise it seems to run very well.
Thanks! Well i wont be recording videos so i hope it will not be choppy
 
Interesting. Thanks for the link. I wonder how otherwise medium settings with shadows on low or off would have compared. On Mac laptops, at least, shadows have been traditionally a stumbling block for graphics. I don't know if the same applies to PC laptops.

The shadows was actually the main thing this reviewer noticed that was visually different between the medium and low settings; so it sounds like with them off but otherwise on medium, you get an experience much closer to standard low (in both graphics appeal and frame speed) than standard medium.
 
Is there anything new about this, apart from Donald being satisfied with his GTX 970?

Judging from all I read, I'll probably buy GTX 1060, since you seem to claim it is generally better than 970 and IF I can take one of those 3GB, then even cheaper than 970. So that is my last question - does it matter that GPU has 3GB only?

Since standard GTX 1060 with 6GB starts somewhere around Eur 260, but GTX 1060 with 3GB can be bought for 210-220. Thanks.
 
This article from PC Gamer shows how Civ VI runs with integrated graphics: http://www.pcgamer.com/civilization-6-on-a-laptop-with-integrated-graphics/

This article gave me a bit of hope when I saw it. I had been planning to replace my laptop.

I posted this in another thread where we found there was an option to start the game in strategic mode, I'll post here as well.

I'll be trying to run it on a pretty old laptop, I'll be surprised if I can smoothly run in strategic mode, but if I can avoid replacing it it's worth a shot.

Windows 7 64bit SP1
intel core i3-2310m @2.1ghz
4 gb RAM
5500 RPM HDD
Intel HD graphics 3000


For anyone interested with a comparable system I'll post the results here on release.
 
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