Tanelorn's Fleet

[Patine]

Missile boats for everyone! (Except maybe the poor, unfortunate, left-out landlocked countries - oh the injustice).

 

[Broken_Erika]

So the Grand Navy of Luxembourg gets left out.... Luxembourg needs aircraft carriers!

 

[Tanelorn]

Penguin armed Combattante IIIb:

6 of these were ordered in 1978 and built in Greece. They include P24 Kavaloudis, P26 Degiannis, P27 Xenos, P28 Simitzopoulos and P29 Starakis. P25 Costakos was sunk after it collided with Express Samaina in 1996

Nigeria operates three Combattante IIIb's (Siri class)

@Broken_Erika Do not underestimate Ruritania...

 

[Patine]

Penguin armed Combattante IIIb:

@Broken_Erika Do not underestimate Ruritania...

But Tanelorn, Ruritania stands in the same socio-political groups of nations with such luminaries as Parador, Shangri-La, Latveria, and the Kingdom of Zambezi. Such an exceptional and unique grouping of nations, I bet even the UN lacks an official term for them.

 

[Tanelorn]

. Harpoon armed Dogan class built by Lurssen (1977-1981, 4 boats). The Rüzgar class, built in Turkey (1986-1988, 4 boats) is lighter and 3 knots faster but visually identical.

 

[Patine]

. Harpoon armed Dogan class

The great whale hunters of the Turkish Navy!

 

[Tanelorn]

Exocet armed Combattante IIa and IIIa
The IIa is basically one and the same as the German Type 148 Tiger, Libyan Beir Grassa and Iranian Kaman/ Sina classes. The Israeli Sa'ar differ in armament.
5 went to Chile and Egypt, each. One, Dioscuria (former P17 Ypoploiarchos Batsis, former HS Kalypso) was tansferred to the Georgian navy and was subsequently sunk by the Russians in 2008.

Important to note that the 4 original Exocet armed Combattante II's for Greece substituted the front main gun for a second twin 35mm AA cannon. These (P14 Anninos, Konidis, P15 Arliotis and P17 Batsis) were built by CMN Cherburg for Greece and served between 1972 and 2002.
The ex-German IIa's Votsis (P 72), Pezopoulos (P 73), Vlachavas Ρ-74, Tournas (P 76) and Sakipis (P 77) were delivered between 1994-1995 and are still in service.
Malaysia also uses four Combattante IIs (Perdana class)

Of the German built TNC45, exocet armed equivalent, two were bought by Argentina (1974, Interpida class) four by Bahrain (1984, Al Fateh class) six by Kuwait, all captured by Iraq and subsequently sunk during the Gulf war of 1990, except one that was returned to the emirate.

The six 1968 built Singaporean Sea Wolf class boats carried the Sa'ar 3/4 Harpoon/Gabriel armament mix instead. The Singaporean boats were withdrawn ten years ago.

The 4 enlarged Combattante IIIa 's were built in Cherburg and delivered by 1976-1977 and, upgraded, are still in service. These are P20 Laskos, P21 Blessas, P22 Mykonios and P23 Troupakis. They are FACs of corvette size.
Qatar (three, Damsah class) and Tunisia (three, Gali class) use IIIa Combattantes as well.

@Patine Παντελονόψαρα, not whales
I just found out that Spain, Colombia (Lazaga class patrol boats, all decomissioned), Morocco (four Al Khattabi class, MM40 armed) and Kuwait (two Al Instiqlal class, one sunk by Iraq) also used/ use variations of the same design. Another three were ordered by Lebanon this year (of the updated FS56 class)

 

[Broken_Erika]

I still like the idea of a scenario involving the conquest of the world by the Andorra-Luxembourg Alliance.

 

[Patine]

@Tanelorn I'm afraid my Koine Greek is better than my Modern Greek, and largely because so many English words are built from Koine Greek rootwords. Also, my fluency is better when it's Romanized. In other words, I have no idea what that word you typed was, and Google Translate is worse than a malfunctioning Star Wars protocol Droid with a malicious streak in it's programming.

@Broken_Erika Care to try your hand at scenario making? I'd look forward to seeing what you came up with. But such a scenario would have a VERY high challenge curve. I don't even know if our late and great AGRICOLA could've won that one...

 

[Tanelorn]

Yildiz (1997 -2 ships) class missle boat, practically identical to the original Dogan class.
@Patine The compound noun is an Italian loan word and an ancient/koine adjective turned into a noun meaning something else.

 

[Tanelorn]

All of the above designs were based on the Jaguar torpedo boat (20 boats), itself an evolution of the WW2 E-Boat. At least 7 ended up in the Turkish navy and served between 1975 and 1993. Of the 10 boat up-engined Seeadler class, at least 7 ended up in the Greek navy, in service beteen 1976 and 2008. 11 more were built for Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. They were also the basis for the Israeli Sa'ar 1 and 2. Zobel/ Kartal next.

 

[Tanelorn]

The Zobel class was a 10 boat development of the Jaguar design and the last torpedo boat for the Bundesmarine. Of these 6 ended up in the Turkish navy (1966 to 2016). Another 8 were built by Lurssen for Turkey as the Kartal class (8 ships, 1968-1970, still in service). These were armed with Penguin missles in addition to the topedoes. TCG Meltem sank after colliding with the Soviet training ship Khasan in 1985.

 

[Broken_Erika]

I tried making a WW1 scenario once, but i learned that i don't have the attention span to finish anything. Plus the idea i had in mind would have required 9 civs so.....

 

[Tanelorn]

It seems that half of the ex Tiger class Greek Combattante IIa's (Votsis class), namely P-74 Vlahavas, P-75 Maridakis and P-76 Tournas were armed with 4 Harpoons as in this picture, whereas P-72 Votsis, P-73 Pezopoulos and P-77 Sakipis remained identical to the German 148 / Tiger class i,e. had 4 MM38 Exocets as drawn previously (look it up for some new info).

@Broken_Erika Don't beat yourself up over it, it's just a game anyway. Have fun!

 

[Tanelorn]

The German connection. 10 S143 Albatros boats served the German navy between 1976 and 2005. Six were subsequently sold to Tynisia (where they carry cool Carthaginian generals names) and four were retained to canibalize for spares for the Gepards. Two of those were sold to Ghana in 2012.
-edit- P.S.
The Indonesian Mandau (1979, 4 ships, Exocet MM38 missles), Andau (4 ships, torpedoes, 1988-1989) and Kakap (1988-1989/ 1993-1995 2+2 ships, helicopter pad) are related designs.
The Pandrong (1992, 2 ships) and Todak (2000, 4 ships) are Indonesian subclasses armed with Chinese C-802 missles
The Nigerian navy uses three FPB57 Ekpe class boats alongside its Combattante III Siri class. The reason why they split their order of two nearly identical designs between two different manufacturers is incomprehensible to me.

10 S143a Gepard boats served the German navy between 1982 and 2016. They had vastly improved AA/ anti-missle protection, afforded by the RAM missile defense system that replaced the stern gun.

 

[Tanelorn]

The Sa'ar I were three Jaguar patrol vessels of the German Navy , whose design was modified by the Israeli Navy. Due to political problems, they were finally built in France. They served between 1967 and 1996. Originally they were equipped only with three 40 mm Bofors canons. The 6 Sa'ar 2 boats that followed introduced 5 to 8 Gabriel antiship missles in place of the rear two guns. From 1974, the Sa'ar 1 units were adapted to carry Gabriel MkI missiles by removing the two 40 mm rear turrets. They were thus upgraded to the Sa'ar 2 standard.

The Israeli Navy asked Lürssen, the shipyard which built the Jaguar-class, to modify the wooden Jaguar-class design by switching to steel and lengthening it. Due to Arab League pressure on the German government, this plan was not continued (after the delivery of three of the twelve boats in 1964, Germany had to renounce the agreement) and a new builder was sought. The Israeli Navy discovered that the Cherbourg-based CMN would build the boats. The engines were imported from Germany and gave them 40 impessive knots of speed. Hence the 6 Sa'ar 3 boats that served the INS from 1969 to 1991(and subsequent Combattante and Lurssen designs) were born. Two were later sold to Chile.
The Sa'ar 4 was an even more lengthened design, that traded more weight for better endurance and armament at the expense of speed (only 34 knots). 10 of these were buit in Israel for the INS and three more in 1976 for apartheid era South Africa. They served from 1973/77 to 2011/14. Four were later sold to Chile in 1979, 1981 and 1997. Two more were sold to Sri Lanka in 2000, Three were sold to the Greek coast guard (SSM missles removed).
Both classes can carry a mix of Gabriel/ Harpoon SSM missles.

 

[Tanelorn]

Sa'ar 4.5 Hetz missle boat/ corvette. Each carries 8 Harpoon and either 6 Gabriel SSM missles or up to 32 Barak SAM missles. Six boats comissioned between 1981- 1998 and another two in 2002-2003. Two more of the earlier, helicopter carying Aliya subclass were sold to Mexico as the Huracan class.

The Singaporean Victory class (6 boats, 1990) is broadly similar.

 

[Tanelorn]

Swedish Spica series of fast attack crafts. The Spica I and II served from 1973 to 2006. The Yugoslavian Koncar/ Kralj classes (Yugoslavia, Croatia, Montenegro, Kenya) are based on the Norkopping class. The two Stockholm class of ultra-light Corvettes (only 320 tons, here in their original looks) entered service in 1984 and are still in service I think, after extensive modifications.

 

[Patine]

Swedish Spica series of fast attack crafts. The Yugoslavian Kralj class is based on the Norkopping class.

So that's what's replaced the longboats 1000 years later...

 

[Civinator]

Luxembourg needs aircraft carriers!

Even Switzerland has an aircraft carrier:

...and Tanelorn: Your small boat unit graphics are great!