Tanelorn's Fleet

[Tanelorn]

The Tench class was a 29 ship WWII development of the Balao class, modified to carry more fuel and achive extended range.
Post war 1went to Pakistan, 1 to Canada (HMCS Rainbow -1968 to 1974, to replace a single WW2 Balao, Grilse -1961 to 68), 2 to Brazil, 1 to Venezuela, 1 to Peru, and 1 to Taiwan (refer to the previous Balao Guppy II drawing). The Pakistani PNS Ghazi (ex USS Diablo) sunk or was sunk during the 1971 war with India. The Taiwanese Hai Shin is one of only two WW2 subs still in service.
Nine of those previously upgraded to the Guppy II standard post war (incorporating Nazi U-boat technology among other improvements) had their hulls lengthened and the bridges enlarged to carry more electronics (Guppy III standard). Two Guppy IIIs went to the Italian, Brazilian and Turkish* navies each in the 70s. One (Katsonis, ex-USS Remora, pictured) went to the Greek navy in 73 and served up to 93.
Older Balaos upgraded to the Guppy III stanard looked essentialy the same. Turkey got two of those in 1974 and decomissioned them in 96 (Inonu, now a museum) and 99 (Canakkale)

Six new subs were built in 1950 with the Guppy III technologies as the Tang class. Two went to Italy in the early 70s, decomissioned by the mid 80s. Two went to Turkey in 83 and 87 and were turned into museums after 2004. One was earmarked for transfer to Iran in 78 but fall of the Shah put an end to that.

*(1971, Ulucalireis, museum after 2000 - Cerbe 1972, scrapped 1999)

Actually, lets include the original Balao Guppy II here too.

Argentina Santa Fe 1971-1982 (captured, scuttled)
Brazil 3 boats: Guanabara 72-83 Ceará 73-87 Rio de Janeiro 72-81
Venezuela 2 boats 73-90
Taiwan Hai Pao 73- still in service

Guppy IA: the same, cheaper batteries:
Argentina Santiago del Estero, 71-83 no Falklands duty
Peru 2 boats 1974, one sunk in 88 the other off active duty 1995
Turkey one, Dumlupinar 1972-1976 collided with a Soviet ship and used as a dockside battery charger till 86 and (the first Dumlupinar, a Balao, served 1950 to 53 when it collided with a Swedish freighter and sunk with its crew. Another Balao, Sakarya, served with Turkey from 48 to 74)

Fleet Snorkel type: Externally the same as the Guppy, kept the original Balao batteries and machinery
Turkey Preveze 54 to 72, Turgutreis 58 to 83, then as battery charger to 96, Pirireis 60 to 73 (a Tang class replacement used the same name and number) Hizirreis 60 to 77 Gur 53 to 75
Italy Francesco Morosini 1966-75, E.Torricelli1960-76
Spain Almirante García de los Reyes 1959-1974
Greece Triaina 65 to 80, trainer up to 82

Guppy IIa: Same as Guppy II with improved living conditions
Greece Papanikolis 1972 to 1993
Turkey (second) Preveze 73 to 87, Ocureis 73 to 87, Muratreis 71 to 2001 (now a museum in Arkansas) Burakreis 1971 to 1996 1st Inonu 1972 to 1998
Spain four subs each serving between 74-84, 72-77, 72-83, 71-84 "called something in Spanish"

Guppy IB was a limited IA upgrade for export to Italy (two subs, 54 to 72 and 55 to 73) and the Netherlands (two subs, both 53 to 70). The Italian subs were earlier Gato upgrades, actually.

Wikipedia does a messy job of adding up successive upgrades as if they were different boats and mixes up foreign sub names between classes. It gave me a headache.

For the WWII originals, check page 17

 

[BC1871]

Is there any chance of getting a Halifax Class Frigate made?

 

[Tanelorn]

Sure, it is half done. I just have to find the time for it.

 

[Tanelorn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax-class_frigate
The Canadian Halifax class frigate -12 of which were comissioned between 1992/1996- is a true multi-role platform that replaced all previous destroyer classes in the RCN. Moderately fast, it is armed to the teeth.
Despite the nomenclature, this frigate has about double the displacement of those old destroyers and is a knot faster. @BC1871

Yamagumo/ Hatsuyuki/ Asagiri destroyers in the works.

 

[Tanelorn]

I took a third shot at the C.F. Adams destroyer first, this time from a standard angle. I included the West German Lutjens class again.
The C.F. Adams were the first class designed to serve as guided missile destroyers. The Sherman Forrest hull was lengthened, to accomodate the ASROC launcher. A steam turbine class from 1960, very much similar to a WW2 destroyer but having enough AA capability to soldier on with the USN into the 1990s next to the ASW Spruance DD, to cover for that designs AA shotcomings. Its own ASW capabilities never came close to matching those of modern destroyers though. They were being upgraded under the Raegan administration's NTU program, but the cold war ended before all but three completed the upgrade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_F._Adams-class_destroyer 23 ships 1960-1992
The Bundesmarine Lutjens class differed from the Charles F. Adams class in the layout of the crew accommodations, the location of the bow sonar, a second large aerial mast and different funnels. in the 1980s they got new fire control computers and radar for the guns. In the 1990s, the ships in the class received two RIM-116 RAM launchers and Chaff launchers. Speeds over 30 kn could only sustained for a limited time due to the enormous fuel consumption. With two active boilers the ship could achieve speeds up to 27 kn. Three boilers made 30 kn achievable. For any speed beyond 30 kn all four boilers were needed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lütjens-class_destroyer 3 ships 1969-2003
Although broadly similar to the US Navy's vessels, the Australian Perth class ships were fitted with the Ikara system instead of the ASROC that was fitted to the American units. The launchers were updated to fire the Harpoon missile, though the missiles were not carried.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth-class_destroyer (different armament) 3 ships 1965-2001
plus four ex-USN boats that served the Hellenic Navy as the Kimon class (Kimon, Nearchos, Formion, Themistocles) transferred between 1991-92 and decomissioned by 2004

 

[BC1871]

Job well done Tanelorn. The Halifax Class looks great!

 

[Tanelorn]

Thanks BC1871!

Here are the two predecessors of the Adams class again:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_Sherman-class_destroyer 18 ships 1955-1988
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farragut-class_destroyer_(1958) 10 ships 1959-1993

 

[Tanelorn]

The Yamagumo class were vessels of the JMSDF usually classified as destroyers, but due to their light displacement they are in fact ASW destroyer escorts. Six served the Japanese navy between 1964 and 2005. Because of the shortcomings of the Minegumo class that was supposed to replace it, building resumed and a second batch of three vessels (the Aokumo sub-class) entered service after 1972. Well equipped for the ASW role alone, they traded some speed for range.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamagumo-class_destroyer
Their role was taken over by the Akizuki class in 2012

 

[Tanelorn]

The Minegumo class was a three ship development of the Yamagumo, built to accomodate two small DASH drone helicopters each, which proved disappointing. Hence Yamagumo construction resumed. After 1978 the DASH system was removed and the small hangar was replaced by an OTO Melara 76mm gun (pictured). You can tell it apart from the Yamagumo by its single stack. They served between 1968 and 2000, but by the 90s they were relegated to training duties.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minegumo-class_destroyer

 

[Tanelorn]

The workhorse of the Japanese navy from 1982 until recently, about half of the12 Hatsuyuki general purpose destroyers (frigates, really) built are still in naval service -the rest are in the coast guard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatsuyuki-class_destroyer. They carry Harpoons. Sparrows and a hellicopter at 30 knots, not bad, i'd say.
Asagiri class next.

 

[Tanelorn]

The eight Asagiri class destroyers are an extended version of the Hatsuyuki, with much improved radars, new electronics and provision for two helicopters instead of one. The stacks had to be positioned asymetrically to the sides, because the hot fumes were damaging those electronics. Three were designated as training ships in 2005 but have returned to front line duty since 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asagiri-class_destroyer
Tachikaze DDG next.

 

[Tanelorn]

The Tachikaze class of three ships served as guided missle destroyers from 1976 to 2007-2010. They were similarly equipped to the USN C.F.Adams (RIM 66 Standard, AGM 84 Harpoon).

The single Amatsukaze (1963-1995) DDG that preceeded them was very similar, and was gradually upgraded as well (pictured here after the 1977 upgrade). Its main SAM was the earlier RIM 24 Tartar and she had no SSM capability.
Both classes have a very strong ASW suite as well and were very fast for their size, at 32-33 knots.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachikaze-class_destroyer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JDS_Amatsukaze
Hatakaze next.

 

[Tanelorn]

The Hatakaze class is the third generation of large guided missile destroyers in service with the JMSDF. They were the first of the JMSDF's ships to have gas-turbine propulsion. The core weapon suite (RIM 66 Standard SAM) is similar to that of the preceding Tachikaze class, but various improvements were made in many areas, to allow the Hatakaze class to function as a group flagship/ command ship. Hatakaze entered service in 1986 and Shimakaze in 1988. At almost 50% increased weight over the Tachikaze, Hatakaze can still do 30 knots. It has a helipad, but no hangar though. Since the mid 90s they have been joined by the AEGIS equipped Kongo class.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatakaze-class_destroyer
Takatsuki DDA, Haruna and Shirane helicopter carriers next

 

[Tanelorn]

The Takatsuki was a fast, long range four ship destroyer class in service between 1964-2003. It was the predecessor of the Hatsuyuki-class destroyer, and was used for anti-submarine warfare duties. In their original connfiguration they included a second 127mm gun and a DASH ASW helicopter drone with its hangar and landing pad. QH-50 DASH drones were removed from inventory in 1977.

In 1985-1988, Takatsuki and Kikuzuki (pictured) were upgraded with Sea Sparrow SAM launchers, Harpoon missile anti-ship missile launchers, Phalanx CIWS systems (Kikuzuki only), new FCS fire control radar and TASS -to become multi-purpose destroyers. Mochizuki and Nagatsuki were slated for upgrade but were not upgraded, due to the end of the cold war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takatsuki-class_destroyer

 

[Tanelorn]

The pair of Haruna class DDH helicopter destroyers (1973-2011) were built around a large central hangar which housed up to three large Sea King (Mitsubishi HSS-2) helicopters. At the beginning, the equipment of this class were similar to those of the Takatsuki-class DDA (as pictured).But with the Fleet Rehabilitation and Modernization (FRAM) program in 1983 and 1984, Sea Sparrow launchers, Phalanx CIWS systems and chaff launchers were added on the superstructure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haruna-class_destroyer
Shirane DDH next.
They sure built them "big in Japan"...

 

[Tanelorn]

The pair of Shirane DDH helicopter destroyers (1980-2017) incorporated an improved design based on the Haruna-class destroyers. The ships propulsion gave a maximum speed of 32 knots.
Its armament included two Mk.42 127mm guns, two 20-mm Phalanx close-in weapon systems, one Surface-to-air RIM-7 Sea Sparrow launcher, torpedoes and anti-submarine rockets. The ships have been replaced by the new Izumo-class helicopter destroyers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirane-class_destroyer
Kongo class AEGIS destroyers next

 

[Patine]

@Tanelorn I had no idea the Japanese Naval Force still had this many ships after the 1945 Instrument of Surrender and 1947 Japanese Constitution.

 

[Tanelorn]

Yes. This is basically their top tier stuff for late cold war. There are hordes of earlier and/or smaller Jap ship classes. Their navy is by far their most powerful military arm.

 

[typhoon353]

@Tanelorn Think you can do something with 0:33-1:06?

 

[Tanelorn]

Yes. Thanks for the resource. I have posted some already, I will start with those I haven't made yet and work my way backwards.
Soviet vs Russian navy refference: https://imgur.com/aJWx1B9