[13:56] <Falcon02> gonna go ahead and start with Pre-turn stuff
[13:56] <Falcon02> *** Research Changed to Construction -> Currency -> Machinery
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[13:58] <Joe> hi
[13:58] <Falcon02> *** NOTA Build Queue Keshik -> Settler -> Keshik -> Keshik -> Keshik
[13:58] <Falcon02> Hi Joe
[13:59] <Falcon02> Do we have any plans for this Settler in NotA?
[13:59] <Falcon02> It's due in 2 turns
[14:00] <Falcon02> er... 4 turns including the Keshik I just inserted in per Dutchfire's instructions
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[14:02] <Grant2004> I think the plan was to follow dutchfire's settlement plan, I don't remember which city was first though
[14:05] <Grant2004> it looks like the bannana city was first , which is 3N 2E of the cows near Coppertown, but that's not for a few turns
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[14:07] <Falcon02> okay
[14:09] <Hyronymus> babana city was first indeed iirc
[14:09] <Falcon02> *** City Build queues done
[14:10] <Falcon02> *** EA is building Keshik (need to manually requeue Keshiks to prevent loss of Hammers on Forge)
[14:10] <Falcon02> *** Riversight is builidng Axeman (need to manually requeue Axeman to prevent loss of hammers on Workers)
[14:11] <Falcon02> *** Coppertown is builidng Axeman (need to manually requeue Axeman to prevent loss of hammers on Monastary)
[14:11] <Falcon02> *** Units upgraded per Warlord's Instructions
[14:15] <Falcon02> *** Sending Free worker to build road to connect Eastern and Western Road systems.
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[14:15] <Falcon02> Done with Preturn, Uploading save
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[14:17] <Falcon02> Preturn Save uploaded
[14:17] <DaveShack> how many turns on the settler, after the Keshik was inserted before?
[14:17] <Falcon02>
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/7394/C4DG2_AD-0100_-_Turn_0_Preturn.Civ4SavedGame
[14:17] <Falcon02> 2
[14:17] <Falcon02> Keshik will take 2 turns to build
[14:17] <DaveShack> so a total of 4
[14:18] <Falcon02> yup
[14:19] <Falcon02> *** Standing by for those present to review the save
[14:19] <Falcon02> assuming anyone can and will
[14:19] <DaveShack> launching Civ
[14:19] <Falcon02> roger
[14:20] <Grant2004> save looks good to me
[14:21] <Falcon02> ok
[14:23] <Falcon02> Another note I didn't notice before... we're back on top again on the power graph... and Caeser has actually exceeded Napoleon on the power graph...
[14:23] <DaveShack> with the death of just one axe? wow, guess the units on the y axis must be pretty small
[14:24] <Falcon02> Napoleon never went down... just leveled out
[14:24] <Falcon02> Caesar just has a pretty steep climb of his own going
[14:25] <Falcon02> And by looking at the graph it Caesar was ahead even before Napoleon lost his Axe
[14:25] <DaveShack> he probably connected iron and started building praetorians then
[14:25] <Falcon02> I don't think the loss of the Axe has been plotted on the graph yet.
[14:25] <Falcon02> that might do it.
[14:26] <Falcon02> Iron is still available for trade though...
[14:26] <Falcon02> anyway... Ready for turn 1?
[14:26] <Grant2004> on my turn chat I noticed a large garison in their southern city, they had built a lot of archers
[14:26] <Hyronymus> bien sur!
[14:26] <Grant2004> ready
[14:26] <DaveShack> anyhow, done looking
[14:26] <DaveShack> Crabengwë!
[14:26] <Falcon02> alright
[14:26] <Falcon02> *** Pre-turn complete
[14:26] <Falcon02> *** Hitting Enter
[14:27] <Falcon02> *** Turn 1 - 125 AD ***
[14:28] <Falcon02> *** French Axeman Pillages Silver Mine (Big surprise) ***
[14:28] <Falcon02> *** Nabu-rimmani has been born in a far away land ***
[14:29] <Falcon02> *** Archer near Rheims moved to Cows... another Spearman has moved to its previous location ***
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[14:30] <Joe> hi again
[14:30] <Joe> anything happen?
[14:31] * Hyronymus informed Joe in a private channel
[14:31] <Falcon02> *** Chariot moved to Iron to defend against Axeman, still waiting for our Axemen to come to the front to eliminate the Axemen ***
[14:32] <Falcon02> *** Moving Axeman near Riversight twoards Coppertown to aid in assault on Rhiems
[14:33] <Hyronymus> yay
[14:35] <Falcon02> *** Building Mine north on Hill north of Riversight, and Farm on Unimporved floodplain near Riversight
[14:36] <Falcon02> *** Munich discovered (Germany's southern most city) Archer unit defending city has City Garrison III! ***
[14:37] <Hyronymus> wow
[14:37] <Falcon02> *** All activities done
[14:37] <Falcon02> *** End of Turn 1 ***
[14:37] <Falcon02> *** Standing by to hit enter ***
[14:37] <DaveShack> any barbs near EA that need addressed?
[14:38] <Falcon02> FYI: We took a slight dip in power... Napoleon rose to Caesars power level, and we fell to Caesar's power level... we have a 3 way tie
[14:39] <Falcon02> Yes, Axeman standing directly south of the cows
[14:39] <Hyronymus> my experience is that archers are good against Axeman
[14:39] <Hyronymus> execially with City Garrison I
[14:40] <Falcon02> *** Reluctantly moving Chariot to EA to stand by for Axeman ***
[14:40] <Falcon02> Hyronymus, the question also is... how many improvements will we lose before they actually attack the city..
[14:40] <Joe> only when defending cities or hills
[14:41] <Hyronymus> I knowm it's unpredicatble
[14:41] <DaveShack> Hyronymus, is that on Warlords or Vanilla?
[14:41] <Hyronymus> Warlord, good point DaveShack
[14:41] <Falcon02> yeah that helps
[14:41] <Hyronymus> sorry
[14:41] <Falcon02> no need to apologize
[14:42] <Falcon02> anyway, one more turn on the NotA Keshik which will go to EA to respond to the Axeman, as I doubt either the Chariot or Archer can sucessfully destroy the Axeman, particularly before mass pillaging
[14:43] <Falcon02> *** Hitting enter ***
[14:43] <Falcon02> *** Napoleon's Axeman went North.... not twoards the Iron or NotA.... ***
[14:44] <Falcon02> Oh and....
[14:44] <Joe> good!
[14:44] <Falcon02> *** Start of Turn 2 - 150 AD ***
[14:44] <Falcon02> Going for Mine on hill I think
[14:44] <Falcon02> *** Giving Keshik Combat I
[14:45] <Falcon02> 92% chance against Axeman
[14:46] <Falcon02> the question is... which is more valuable to us, the hill/mine West of NotA or the Farmed Floodplains and Gold Mines near EA
[14:47] <Falcon02> Moving Chariot to Hill/Mine to Protect it, Keshik going to EA
[14:48] <Falcon02> *** 1 Axeman Garrisoned in NotA, 1 Axeman sent to Forests to West to aid against Napoleon's Axeman ***
[14:49] <Falcon02> *** Power graph shows both Nappy and Yasutan about even above Caesar now
[14:49] <Falcon02> *** NotA continuing with Settler ***
[14:50] <Falcon02> *** End of Turn 2 ***
[14:50] <Falcon02> *** Standing by to hit enter ***
[14:50] <Falcon02> *** 5 turns to Construction ***
[14:50] <Grant2004> Have the French made any other troop movements?
[14:51] <Falcon02> Still moving some units by Rhiems, the Archer that was on the cows has moved on... a Spearman has taken it's place
[14:51] <Falcon02> I think they're moving North of Rheims
[14:52] <Falcon02> Possibly a city we have not discovered yet...?
[14:53] <Falcon02> *** Hitting Enter ***
[14:53] <Falcon02> *** Start of Turn 3 - 175 AD ***
[14:54] <Falcon02> *** Our Chariot fails to defend the Hill/mine tile, however reduces the Axeman's Strength to 2.3 ***
[14:55] <Falcon02> *** Axemen sent to the Hill avenge the death of the fallen Chariot making the lands near NotA safe again ***
[14:55] <Hyronymus> can our Axeman finish it now
[14:55] <Falcon02> *** France has a Galley on the horizon though which appears to be approaching our shores ***
[14:55] <Grant2004> what's aboard?
[14:56] <Falcon02> Not showing anything
[14:56] <Hyronymus> how many units are in NotA now
[14:57] <Falcon02> 2 - 1 Axeman, 1 Warrior
[14:57] <Hyronymus> more comming up?
[14:57] <Hyronymus> we better prepare for an unloading Galley
[14:57] <Falcon02> yeah
[14:58] <Falcon02> there is the Axeman on the hill to the West of NotA, and other cities are still producing units.
[14:58] <Grant2004> are you not able to see what's inside durring wartime. I remember when the last galley approached we knew there were two axemen aboard
[14:58] <Falcon02> I didn't think we could see inside at all
[14:58] <DaveShack> just a sec, I'll go check
[15:00] <Hyronymus> I thnk we could see it before because we had a chariot on top of the silver
[15:00] <Grant2004> we saw it before we decided to send the chariot
[15:00] <Grant2004> that's why we made the decision, we presumed it was hostile because of the axemen
[15:00] <Hyronymus> ok
[15:00] <Falcon02> *** Barb Axeman standing on top of EA's Western Gold hill ***
[15:00] <DaveShack> the axemen are still visible in the galley at that turn, if we declare war
[15:01] <Falcon02> *** Keshik has 69.1% chance of victory against Barb Axeman ***
[15:01] <DaveShack> so if the galleon is loaded now, units should show
[15:01] <Joe> got to go eating out with my folks
[15:01] <Falcon02> enjoy
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[15:01] <Grant2004> So the French are attacking us with an empty galley, that's an interesting tactic
[15:02] <Falcon02> They may just be moving it forward to Lyons, or using it as Recon
[15:02] <DaveShack> or the game remembers we knew about the units... to create a clean scenario would take some time
[15:03] <Falcon02> FYI: We need a navy....
[15:04] <Falcon02> Assault on Rhiems should start within the next turn or two
[15:04] <Grant2004> excellent, then we'll have a port
[15:04] <Falcon02> Also Barb Archer East of Coppertown, NE of Rice
[15:04] <Falcon02> should be easy to get rid of once Archer is out of Forests
[15:05] <Falcon02> Still wondering about the odds with that Keshik and Barb Axeman
[15:05] <Falcon02> 69.1%
[15:05] <Falcon02> Though we will lose one of our gold tiles if we don't
[15:06] <Falcon02> .... Launching assault
[15:06] <Falcon02> Push comes to shove Chariot should be able to finish him off
[15:06] <Grant2004> agreed, wishing those keshik's luck
[15:07] <Falcon02> *** Keshik is Victorious!!! Gains Experience, will get Promotion next turn! ***
[15:07] <DaveShack> yay
[15:07] <Falcon02> *** -2 gpt at the moment 6 gold in treasury
[15:08] * DaveShack loads family into our van, for lunch
[15:08] <Falcon02> *** Reducing Science rate to 70, + 5 gpt but Construction in 6 instead of 5 turns ***
[15:08] <Falcon02> see ya DS
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[15:08] <Grant2004> see ya later dave
[15:09] <Grant2004> is EA working the gold mine that was just saved?
[15:09] <Falcon02> Nope
[15:10] <Falcon02> Fixed
[15:10] <Falcon02> back to 5 turns
[15:10] <Falcon02> and back to 4 turns and +0gpt at 80%
[15:10] <Falcon02> thanks for the catch
[15:11] <Falcon02> *** Turn 3 over - Standing by to hit Enter ***
[15:12] <Falcon02> *** Hitting Enter ***
[15:14] <Falcon02> ** Chariot #1 sent to destroy Barb Archer which had moved to Rice ***
[15:14] <Falcon02> *** Victory for Chariot #1, 2/2 Experience ***
[15:16] <Falcon02> *** Settler Built, moving to Coppertown for Deployment to Banana location
[15:17] <Falcon02> *** Cologne (Germany) discovered ***
[15:18] <Falcon02> *** End of Turn 4 - 200 AD - Standing by to hit enter ***
[15:19] <Falcon02> *** Hitting Enter ***
[15:20] <Falcon02> *** Turn 5 - 225 AD ***
[15:21] <Falcon02> *** 2 Spearman in Lyons and 2 spearmen in Rhiems ***
[15:21] <Hyronymus> odd defense :s
[15:21] <Hyronymus> as if we only have Keshiks
[15:22] <Falcon02> Thus the reason for our Axe/Keshik mixture
[15:24] <Hyronymus> indeed
[15:25] <Falcon02> *** Turn 6 - 250 AD ***
[15:25] <Falcon02> *** Lyons now has 2 axeman and 3 Spearmen! ***
[15:27] <Falcon02> Lyons has 2 galleys in it, so I'm expecting another Naval invasion now
[15:29] <Falcon02> *** Uploading Turn 6 Save ***
[15:31] <Falcon02>
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/7394/C4DG2_AD-0250_-_Turn_6.Civ4SavedGame
[15:34] <Falcon02> *** End Turn 6 - Hitting Enter ***
[15:35] <Falcon02> *** Construction Built ***
[15:37] <Falcon02> *** 3rd Axeman approaching Lyons ***
[15:41] <Falcon02> Lyons is getting quite a stack of doom
[15:41] <Falcon02> *** Attacking Rhiems ***
[15:42] <Falcon02> Axeman is victorious against Archer
[15:42] <Falcon02> *** Rhiems is ours !!! ***
[15:43] <Falcon02> *** No loses! ***
[15:43] <Grant2004> congratulations, maybe that stack of doom will change it's priority
[15:43] <Falcon02> *** 3 axemen waiting Promotions next turn
[15:44] <Falcon02> well I've got a scattered collection of Keshiks and Axemen near NotA in anticipation of the SoD
[15:44] <Falcon02> *** End Turn 7 - 275 AD ***
[15:44] <Falcon02> *** Standing by to hit enter ***
[15:45] <Falcon02> *** We are far above everyone on power graph ***
[15:45] <Falcon02> *** Hitting Enter ***
[15:46] <Falcon02> *** Turn 8 - 300 AD ***
[15:46] <Falcon02> *** Axemen from Lyons attacks our Axeman on Hill SE of Lyons, Our Axeman is victorious ***
[15:48] <Falcon02> *** Also, taking Rhiems reveals French City borders to NW ***
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[15:51] <Falcon02> *** French Axeman South of Coppertown, sending Keshik to attack it in 2-3 turns ***
[15:51] <Falcon02> *** Turn 8 Over - Standing by to hit enter ***
[15:54] <Falcon02> *** Hitting Enter ***
[15:55] <Falcon02> *** Turn 9 - 325 AD ***
[15:57] <Falcon02> *** New Axeman in Coppertown given shock promotion and sent to attack Axeman to the south ***
[15:58] <Falcon02> *** Our Axeman is defeated
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[15:58] <Falcon02> *** French Axeman left at 1.9 Str ***
[15:59] <Falcon02> *** Sent in Chariot #2 to finish the job ***
[16:03] <Falcon02> *** French Galleys launched total 2 axeman and 2 spearmen ***
[16:04] <Falcon02> *** End Turn 10 - Standing by to hit enter ***
[16:05] <Falcon02> *** Hiting Enter ***
[16:08] <Falcon02> err... that was End of turn 9
[16:09] <Falcon02> *** Start of Turn 10 - 350 AD ***
[16:15] <Falcon02> *** Currency Discovered ***
[16:17] <Falcon02> *** French Galleys continuing East, have not yet unloaded ***
[16:17] <Falcon02> *** Rhiems riots end, switching to Barracks, Worker is working on connecting Rhiems to network ***
[16:19] <Falcon02> *** FYI: We're on Turn 11 (375 AD) now, intend to stop next turn ***
[16:19] <Falcon02> *** End Turn 11 - 12 turns to Machinery ***
[16:20] <Falcon02> *** Hitting Enter ***
[16:23] <Falcon02> *** Turn 12 - 400 AD - 11 Turns to Machinery ***
[16:23] <Falcon02> *** First Catapult Built in EA ***
[16:24] <Falcon02> *** Chariot moved to reveal Marsailles North of Rheims, to facilitate planning ***
[16:24] <Falcon02> *** French Galley still has yet to unload, likely moving to Horses ***
[16:25] <Falcon02> *** French Still Refuse to talk ***
[16:25] <Falcon02> *** No profitable Tech Trades ***
[16:25] <Falcon02> *** We are now the Power Leaders by a good margin ***