clearmurky
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Right, sorry.
The Conquests
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clearmurky
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What's the acali that One of your cities is building?
clearmurky
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Oh, what other forms of naval transport do you have? I don't usually play this one.
Verarde
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The Acali has 0.1.2, with 1 transport capacity. It also costs 50 shields.
The Great Acali has 1.2.3, with 3 transport capacity. It also costs 100 shields.
My advice, build 1 Acali, send it to map the continent. Don't build any other ships. If it gets sunk, then you build another.
The Great Acali has 1.2.3, with 3 transport capacity. It also costs 100 shields.
My advice, build 1 Acali, send it to map the continent. Don't build any other ships. If it gets sunk, then you build another.
CELTICEMPIRE
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This scenario is the one I play the least, however your story is making me consider playing it.
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Try making your PC show hidden files and folders, sometimes the .ini is hidden for whatever reason. I've noticed it tends to stay hidden if you're not the administrator on Vista, but not always. If it still won't appear, then I'm not entirely sure what you could do.
Toxicman007
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Thanks, I found it in a random hidden file in a series of hidden files that other stuff is in. Vista is weird.
Vista is what made me lose all faith in humanity.
clearmurky
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True dat. XP is the best.
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Hells to the yeahs!
Don't worry, they haven't, and I got past them a while ago. The only reason I haven't updated is I've been way too busy with a lot of things over the past couple of weeks to do anything. I'm not right now though, and I have a 5-day thanksgiving break, so expect something during said break, or maybe even tomorrow.
CELTICEMPIRE
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Chapter 37: The Temple of the Moon
Work on the giant Temple of the Moon in Chichen Itza had started in 848, and it would be almost all of importance the city did until it was completed a few centuries later. For that matter, it was the most important thing being done anywhere in the Mayan Empire for 200 years, although that's not to say that nothing else happened.
Although they'd run out of room to expand into, they were still busy exploring into South America, and still researching and trading with their neighbors, like in 864, which saw a trade with the Olmecs to learn how to carve Stone that required two technologies in return, but also got them a bunch of gold and maps. They had surprisingly good maps of both Tenochtitlan and Tula, hinting that they probably had embassies in those cities.
South America, meanwhile, seemed to consist of nothing but Mountains and a couple of random barbarian tribes, with no sign yet of any civilization, until they found the Moche. In 880, after wiping out yet another camp of Barbarian Warriors, some Mayan Warriors saw what they would later find out to be Moche borders. They walked South to meet them in 888, and were greeted by the Moche's leader, Great Sipan. They briefly thought about trading, but the Mayans decided against it, as the Moche didn't seem to have anything worth trading except knowledge of another civilization further to the South, the Incas. They decided it would be better to just go find the Incas themselves.
A bit to the Northeast, some Archers climbed a mountain in the range they had started calling the Andes and saw an immeasurably huge and thick forest- so big, in fact, that they couldn't see any way to pass through it.
Back in Mayaland, the scientists figured out how to add things, which they somehow hadn't figured out before, in 892.
For a while after that, nothing much happened aside from the usual stuff happening. 900, the first year of the tenth century, came and went uneventfully. The explorers looked for new stuff around the edge of the Moche's borders, the people in the empire did whatever it was they usually did, new things and armies were being built, that sort of thing. The Toltecs built an embassy in Chichen Itza in 908.
As cool as the embassy was, the Mayans still didn't have any reason to build any of their own anywhere for a while after that, despite easily being able to afford doing so. Then, finally, they decided to build one in the Olmec capital of Potonchan in 920 just to see how they were doing in building their own Temple of the Moon. The investigation of it after the embassy was built showed that they were clearly very far behind Chichen Itza, and the Mayans shouldn't even pay any attention to them. In fact, it was currently projected to finish after 1500, the projected date of the end of the world.
In 932, the exploring people in South America reported weird things happening at one of the mountains there. Local people told them it was a "volcano" and would start spewing fire and smoke shortly, and were told it would be a good idea to not be near it when that happened.
It just started "harmlessly" spewing smoke for a while though, and didn't fully erupt until 948, long after every Mayan explorer was too far away for it to hurt them.
A bit later, in 960, the explorers started heading south into Moche territory to try to get through them and reach the Incas. The Moche didn't seem to like this, and kicked them out, so they tried to go a bit more Southeast to find a way around them, or at least a way through them that was shorter. They found there was no way around without going through the impenetrable rain forest so they just tried going through again in 976.
The Mayan scientists, building on the Mathematical knowledge they learned earlier, figured out more of math, and figured out how to use it to build bigger stuff, like Aqueducts to carry water into cities, or fortresses to guard areas.
When they went to work on what new things they wanted to research in 984 to come up with a new Government system and some games, they also decided to go check on the Temple of the Moon. It had been built up a lot more since 848, and was now about 75% complete. It was scheduled to finish slightly before they finished their research. They knew this would be bad, because building the Temple would grant them lots of new knowledge, but that knowledge would be almost worthless if they didn't research both Ball Games and Monarchy first. So they changed some things a bit to ensure that the Temple would finish just slightly after they finished their research.
Back in the far South, the Moche kicked the Warriors and Archers out again in 988. They inexplicably went way farther North than they needed to when they really should have gone South, meaning something was wrong or the game thought it was Civ 4 and refused to put them on a mountain.
But it didn't really matter, because the Inca somehow contacted the Maya on their own in 996. Neither one had any idea where the other was, so this must have happened because the Inca were traded the Mayans' contact. They asked for a territory map trade so they'd know where the other was. The Mayans instead asked for a trade of World Maps.
At first, the Moche had been assumed responsible for trading the contact with the Mayans to the Inca, but the map seemed to show otherwise. The Inca had a ruined city near their capital, Cuzco, strongly hinting that they were at war with the Moche, and they also knew everyone else, meaning one of the Moche or the Inca (probably the Moche) had found the Toltecs and massive contact trading had ensued.
To test this theory, the Mayans established an embassy in the Moche capital, Sipan, in 1000. Through this embassy, they were able to discover first that the Moche were in a period of high production that could only be brought on by a certain kind of military victory, and later that yes, the Inca and Moche were at war, and the Inca were pretty much losing.
The Toltecs, meanwhile, had researched Monarchy, and were completely unwilling to trade it to the Mayans.
After that, not much happened for a while, except for the speed of years slowing down again in 1005, and the Mayans and Olmecs both demanding that the other leave their respective territories. The only other real thing of note was in 1018, when the scientists finished work on some awesome ball games, which they'd need some rubber for. Luckily, there was plenty of Rubber just outside of Quirigua and Chichen Itza, and they'd get about getting it hooked up to the road system shortly.
Not long after the Olmecs stopped heading East into Mayan territory, Aztecs started showing up with Settlers. They entered Mayan territory in 1062.
Also in 1062, the scientists finally finished work on Monarchy. Because of some mismanagement and forgetfulness, the Temple was still about 15 years from being finished, and giving the Mayans free techs, and so the Mayans held off on switching governments. Even so, they had managed to advance to a new age with the finishing of this research, and their amazing research talents let them get another new technology shortly after, Military Tactics that would let them build better Archers.
But back to the Aztecs, for they would soon prove to be far more important. The Mayans asked them to leave in 1065. They would get their answer 2 years later when they were ready to move again: No. They thought about asking again in 1070, but had only Javelin Throwers to attack with rather than Quetzal Bowmen if they Aztecs said no again, and really didn't want a Golden Age until they reached Monarchy. So they waited while the newly-upgraded Quetzal Bowmen got ready to fight, and let the Aztecs keep moving one more time.
They again chose to keep moving East to who-knows-where. So, in 1075, the Mayans gave them an ultimatum: Either the settlers and their Warrior escorts would leave Mayan territory immediately, or a state of war would exist between the Mayans and the Aztecs.
Montezuma chose the second option.
The now combat-ready Quetzal Bowmen responded by sending one of their units to attack the Warrior/Settler group, killing the warriors and making the Settlers into a couple new groups of Aztec slaves for the Mayans.
The rest of the army bunkered down and prepared for the war. It would not be easy- the Aztecs were bigger and stronger than they were. They couldn't really ask for help fighting them- The Olmecs would just get eaten by the Aztecs if they tried to fight, the Moche and Inca were too far away, and the Toltecs were probably no more capable of fighting the Aztecs than the Mayans were, and on the wrong side geographically to be used as a shield. But the Aztecs would certainly take a while to get any meaningful amount of troops down South to fight, and if the Mayans could just fight off the small amount that was thrown at them until the Aztecs got tired of fighting and were willing to make peace, then they could easily avoid losing.
But it would be difficult. The finishing of the Temple of the Moon certainly did help some, as it gave them new techniques for moving water (not helpful to the military at all) and some Espionage ideas (very helpful to the military), as well as just plain being awesome.
On the other hand, the finishing of it also meant there was no reason aside from the war to remain in Despotism any longer. The massive corruption was leading to deficits when just 60% of the empire's income was spent on science, and the bad production and wealth generation was holding everything back. Even if it would be harder to fight a war without a government, even the military agreed that the slight anarchy period wouldn't hurt them much- the Aztecs would probably take that long to get anyone down South anyway, and if they got a Golden Age from Javelin Thrower victories, they sure didn't want it to be in Despotism. So the deed was done, and the government was sent on the road to becoming a Monarchy in 1080.
It was estimated that it would take about 20 years for the government to get back on its feet again. In the meantime, they'd have to do whatever they could to just fight against the Aztecs.
Couldn't be too hard, could it?
Work on the giant Temple of the Moon in Chichen Itza had started in 848, and it would be almost all of importance the city did until it was completed a few centuries later. For that matter, it was the most important thing being done anywhere in the Mayan Empire for 200 years, although that's not to say that nothing else happened.
Although they'd run out of room to expand into, they were still busy exploring into South America, and still researching and trading with their neighbors, like in 864, which saw a trade with the Olmecs to learn how to carve Stone that required two technologies in return, but also got them a bunch of gold and maps. They had surprisingly good maps of both Tenochtitlan and Tula, hinting that they probably had embassies in those cities.
South America, meanwhile, seemed to consist of nothing but Mountains and a couple of random barbarian tribes, with no sign yet of any civilization, until they found the Moche. In 880, after wiping out yet another camp of Barbarian Warriors, some Mayan Warriors saw what they would later find out to be Moche borders. They walked South to meet them in 888, and were greeted by the Moche's leader, Great Sipan. They briefly thought about trading, but the Mayans decided against it, as the Moche didn't seem to have anything worth trading except knowledge of another civilization further to the South, the Incas. They decided it would be better to just go find the Incas themselves.
A bit to the Northeast, some Archers climbed a mountain in the range they had started calling the Andes and saw an immeasurably huge and thick forest- so big, in fact, that they couldn't see any way to pass through it.
Back in Mayaland, the scientists figured out how to add things, which they somehow hadn't figured out before, in 892.
For a while after that, nothing much happened aside from the usual stuff happening. 900, the first year of the tenth century, came and went uneventfully. The explorers looked for new stuff around the edge of the Moche's borders, the people in the empire did whatever it was they usually did, new things and armies were being built, that sort of thing. The Toltecs built an embassy in Chichen Itza in 908.
As cool as the embassy was, the Mayans still didn't have any reason to build any of their own anywhere for a while after that, despite easily being able to afford doing so. Then, finally, they decided to build one in the Olmec capital of Potonchan in 920 just to see how they were doing in building their own Temple of the Moon. The investigation of it after the embassy was built showed that they were clearly very far behind Chichen Itza, and the Mayans shouldn't even pay any attention to them. In fact, it was currently projected to finish after 1500, the projected date of the end of the world.
In 932, the exploring people in South America reported weird things happening at one of the mountains there. Local people told them it was a "volcano" and would start spewing fire and smoke shortly, and were told it would be a good idea to not be near it when that happened.
It just started "harmlessly" spewing smoke for a while though, and didn't fully erupt until 948, long after every Mayan explorer was too far away for it to hurt them.
A bit later, in 960, the explorers started heading south into Moche territory to try to get through them and reach the Incas. The Moche didn't seem to like this, and kicked them out, so they tried to go a bit more Southeast to find a way around them, or at least a way through them that was shorter. They found there was no way around without going through the impenetrable rain forest so they just tried going through again in 976.
The Mayan scientists, building on the Mathematical knowledge they learned earlier, figured out more of math, and figured out how to use it to build bigger stuff, like Aqueducts to carry water into cities, or fortresses to guard areas.
When they went to work on what new things they wanted to research in 984 to come up with a new Government system and some games, they also decided to go check on the Temple of the Moon. It had been built up a lot more since 848, and was now about 75% complete. It was scheduled to finish slightly before they finished their research. They knew this would be bad, because building the Temple would grant them lots of new knowledge, but that knowledge would be almost worthless if they didn't research both Ball Games and Monarchy first. So they changed some things a bit to ensure that the Temple would finish just slightly after they finished their research.
Back in the far South, the Moche kicked the Warriors and Archers out again in 988. They inexplicably went way farther North than they needed to when they really should have gone South, meaning something was wrong or the game thought it was Civ 4 and refused to put them on a mountain.
But it didn't really matter, because the Inca somehow contacted the Maya on their own in 996. Neither one had any idea where the other was, so this must have happened because the Inca were traded the Mayans' contact. They asked for a territory map trade so they'd know where the other was. The Mayans instead asked for a trade of World Maps.
At first, the Moche had been assumed responsible for trading the contact with the Mayans to the Inca, but the map seemed to show otherwise. The Inca had a ruined city near their capital, Cuzco, strongly hinting that they were at war with the Moche, and they also knew everyone else, meaning one of the Moche or the Inca (probably the Moche) had found the Toltecs and massive contact trading had ensued.
To test this theory, the Mayans established an embassy in the Moche capital, Sipan, in 1000. Through this embassy, they were able to discover first that the Moche were in a period of high production that could only be brought on by a certain kind of military victory, and later that yes, the Inca and Moche were at war, and the Inca were pretty much losing.
The Toltecs, meanwhile, had researched Monarchy, and were completely unwilling to trade it to the Mayans.
After that, not much happened for a while, except for the speed of years slowing down again in 1005, and the Mayans and Olmecs both demanding that the other leave their respective territories. The only other real thing of note was in 1018, when the scientists finished work on some awesome ball games, which they'd need some rubber for. Luckily, there was plenty of Rubber just outside of Quirigua and Chichen Itza, and they'd get about getting it hooked up to the road system shortly.
Not long after the Olmecs stopped heading East into Mayan territory, Aztecs started showing up with Settlers. They entered Mayan territory in 1062.
Also in 1062, the scientists finally finished work on Monarchy. Because of some mismanagement and forgetfulness, the Temple was still about 15 years from being finished, and giving the Mayans free techs, and so the Mayans held off on switching governments. Even so, they had managed to advance to a new age with the finishing of this research, and their amazing research talents let them get another new technology shortly after, Military Tactics that would let them build better Archers.
But back to the Aztecs, for they would soon prove to be far more important. The Mayans asked them to leave in 1065. They would get their answer 2 years later when they were ready to move again: No. They thought about asking again in 1070, but had only Javelin Throwers to attack with rather than Quetzal Bowmen if they Aztecs said no again, and really didn't want a Golden Age until they reached Monarchy. So they waited while the newly-upgraded Quetzal Bowmen got ready to fight, and let the Aztecs keep moving one more time.
They again chose to keep moving East to who-knows-where. So, in 1075, the Mayans gave them an ultimatum: Either the settlers and their Warrior escorts would leave Mayan territory immediately, or a state of war would exist between the Mayans and the Aztecs.
Montezuma chose the second option.
The now combat-ready Quetzal Bowmen responded by sending one of their units to attack the Warrior/Settler group, killing the warriors and making the Settlers into a couple new groups of Aztec slaves for the Mayans.
The rest of the army bunkered down and prepared for the war. It would not be easy- the Aztecs were bigger and stronger than they were. They couldn't really ask for help fighting them- The Olmecs would just get eaten by the Aztecs if they tried to fight, the Moche and Inca were too far away, and the Toltecs were probably no more capable of fighting the Aztecs than the Mayans were, and on the wrong side geographically to be used as a shield. But the Aztecs would certainly take a while to get any meaningful amount of troops down South to fight, and if the Mayans could just fight off the small amount that was thrown at them until the Aztecs got tired of fighting and were willing to make peace, then they could easily avoid losing.
But it would be difficult. The finishing of the Temple of the Moon certainly did help some, as it gave them new techniques for moving water (not helpful to the military at all) and some Espionage ideas (very helpful to the military), as well as just plain being awesome.
On the other hand, the finishing of it also meant there was no reason aside from the war to remain in Despotism any longer. The massive corruption was leading to deficits when just 60% of the empire's income was spent on science, and the bad production and wealth generation was holding everything back. Even if it would be harder to fight a war without a government, even the military agreed that the slight anarchy period wouldn't hurt them much- the Aztecs would probably take that long to get anyone down South anyway, and if they got a Golden Age from Javelin Thrower victories, they sure didn't want it to be in Despotism. So the deed was done, and the government was sent on the road to becoming a Monarchy in 1080.
It was estimated that it would take about 20 years for the government to get back on its feet again. In the meantime, they'd have to do whatever they could to just fight against the Aztecs.
Couldn't be too hard, could it?
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Verarde
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Kill some Aztecs!!!
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Shameless indeed but it sounds interesting....
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